Ethernet splitter?

[Joelbanks5]

8 hours ago, SCHISCHKA said:

he has one cable! they are going to share the bandwidth of one port anyway

 

8 hours ago, brwainer said:

just to settle the argument of wether the OP should get a hub or not, the IEEE standard for gigabit ethernet expressly forbids hubs. Noone should be using hubs at gigabit speeds, and the standard doesn't allow it. And every search for "gigabit hub" that I do on shiopping websites only brings back results for gigabit switches.

So what should I get? A switch or a hub?

[jagdtigger]

50 minutes ago, Joelbanks5 said:

 

So what should I get? A switch or a hub?

Get a switch.

[paddy-stone]

I personally would get a switch/router/access point, depending on needs:-

 

• Switch for just wired connections - you could add a wireless access point later on very easily.
• Router - Has both switch and wifi built in and you can find cheap gigabit (wired) ones easily. Has the added benefit of giving you a wireless signal too, so any wifi devices can now get a great signal in that room.
• Access point, can be either just for wireless or wireless plus wired connections.

My vote would be for the router, it's more versatile and even if you change your setup at a later date can still come in handy for something else and aren't expensive anyway... you just have to remember to turn off DHCP on it so that the new router doesn't give out IP addresses as well as your main router. That way there should be no conflicts as your main router would still do all the traffic handling (routing).

[brwainer]

6 hours ago, Joelbanks5 said:

 

So what should I get? A switch or a hub?

 

5 hours ago, paddy-stone said:

I personally would get a switch/router/access point, depending on needs:-

 

• Switch for just wired connections - you could add a wireless access point later on very easily.
• Router - Has both switch and wifi built in and you can find cheap gigabit (wired) ones easily. Has the added benefit of giving you a wireless signal too, so any wifi devices can now get a great signal in that room.
• Access point, can be either just for wireless or wireless plus wired connections.

My vote would be for the router, it's more versatile and even if you change your setup at a later date can still come in handy for something else and aren't expensive anyway... you just have to remember to turn off DHCP on it so that the new router doesn't give out IP addresses as well as your main router. That way there should be no conflicts as your main router would still do all the traffic handling (routing).

If you want a simple plug and play device, get a switch. If you want wireless as well, get a router (requires turning off DHCP/NAT) or get an AP (not all APs have multiple ethernet ports though - most just have 1 or 2)

[Guest]

16 hours ago, SCHISCHKA said:

he has one cable to two computers. a switch or router will not provide anything that a hub cannot from that one cable. a router is excess and introduces another device with exploitable firmware. He does not need to spend more than $20

 

15 hours ago, brwainer said:

a hub sends every incoming signal out every port except the one it came in on. So if you have a 5 port hub with all 5 ports connected, and all the devices were sending traffic at full rate, you would max out at about 250Mb/s - assuming the hub is even capable of going that fast. divide the numbers by 10 or 100 for a 10 or 100 hub.

To expand on what @brwainer said, there is a reason hubs are obsolete - collision domain and packet broadcasts. Collision domains exist in todays networks however are rarely an issue - they occur when two devices sharing the same connection attempt to transmit traffic at the same time. Eg a PC and a switch port - there is huge packet loss and pretty much you don't get a signal. There are protocols now to prevent this happening however the biggest thing is that with a switch, each port is electronically seperated - there's a link between port a and the PC A, port b and PC B.

 

With a hub, there isn't this seperation - so if PC A tries to transmit back to the hub at the same time PC B tries to, the data literally collides and rarely goes through.

 

Switches solve this.

 

The second issue you run in to is broadcasts - eg if a packet comes in form the router to the hub, destined for PC A, every other PC connected to that hub will also recieve the data regardless of whether or not it actually wants it. This leads to excess bandwith usage and thus slower performance.

 

Don't. Buy. A. Hub.

[Joelbanks5]

26 minutes ago, Windspeed36 said:

 

To expand on what @brwainer said, there is a reason hubs are obsolete - collision domain and packet broadcasts. Collision domains exist in todays networks however are rarely an issue - they occur when two devices sharing the same connection attempt to transmit traffic at the same time. Eg a PC and a switch port - there is huge packet loss and pretty much you don't get a signal. There are protocols now to prevent this happening however the biggest thing is that with a switch, each port is electronically seperated - there's a link between port a and the PC A, port b and PC B.

 

With a hub, there isn't this seperation - so if PC A tries to transmit back to the hub at the same time PC B tries to, the data literally collides and rarely goes through.

 

Switches solve this.

 

The second issue you run in to is broadcasts - eg if a packet comes in form the router to the hub, destined for PC A, every other PC connected to that hub will also recieve the data regardless of whether or not it actually wants it. This leads to excess bandwith usage and thus slower performance.

 

Don't. Buy. A. Hub.

Thanks I bought a switch from bestbuy. 

 

This one http://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgear-5-port-gigabit-ethernet-switch-white/6840341.p?skuId=6840341

[Brightglaive]

On 12/4/2016 at 0:29 AM, XenosTech said:

Sometimes I wonder why people just don't google stuff before they spread misinformation.

Aye. Hubs are obsolete. They were discontinued in favor of switches a LONG time ago. Nowadays hub is a misnomer. The devices used to connect hosts and routers are truly switches. Hubs are good only as doorstops. LOL 

[XenosTech]

1 hour ago, Brightglaive said:

Aye. Hubs are obsolete. They were discontinued in favor of switches a LONG time ago. Nowadays hub is a misnomer. The devices used to connect hosts and routers are truly switches. Hubs are good only as doorstops. LOL 

Man that made me cringe so hard seeing someone tell someone else buy a hub, I mean use google if you don't know the differences between the devices or let the people who actually know about it recommend a device for the person and you just observe or something. Just don't spread misinformation based on your ignorance.