iGPU + Ram?

[PhreakZero]

Hey guys, im using a Lenovo Laptop with Core i5 4210U+6Gbs of ram for casual gaming (I mean mainstream games and some indies),this laptop has an intel HD 4400 iGPU (not that bad),I wanna know if i increase the ram up to 8Gbs could i get better framerate or smoother gameplay?,Thanks
 

[Redsun20]

3 minutes ago, PhreakZero said:

Hey guys, im using a Lenovo Laptop with Core i5 4210U+6Gbs of ram for casual gaming (I mean mainstream games and some indies),this laptop has an intel HD 4400 iGPU (not that bad),I wanna know if i increase the ram up to 8Gbs could i get better framerate or smoother gameplay?,Thanks
 

Maybe, but I would upgrade it anyway, as 8GB's is pretty much the standard these days (It wono't hurt anything). In order to know if it will help, we need to know how much you are using while running games. If you are at very close to full capacity, an upgrade will definitely help.

[phoon]

4 minutes ago, PhreakZero said:

Hey guys, im using a Lenovo Laptop with Core i5 4210U+6Gbs of ram for casual gaming (I mean mainstream games and some indies),this laptop has an intel HD 4400 iGPU (not that bad),I wanna know if i increase the ram up to 8Gbs could i get better framerate or smoother gameplay?,Thanks
 

thats what im doing for now until i get 1080 ti but im gaming on 6700k igpu with 32gb of ram you'll get aroung 60 fps on high settings in csgo but then again deppends on your cpu no AAA gaming unless on 720p

[kelvinhall05]

6 minutes ago, PhreakZero said:

Hey guys, im using a Lenovo Laptop with Core i5 4210U+6Gbs of ram for casual gaming (I mean mainstream games and some indies),this laptop has an intel HD 4400 iGPU (not that bad),I wanna know if i increase the ram up to 8Gbs could i get better framerate or smoother gameplay?,Thanks
 

 

 

AFAIK, iGPUs can take advantage of system memory, not sure how much though. One thing you could do is go into BIOS and increase the amount of RAM the iGPU can use (I made a guide on this, you can check it out here).

[phoon]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

AFAIK, iGPUs can take advantage of system memory, not sure how much though. One thing you could do is go into BIOS and increase the amount of RAM the iGPU can use (I made a guide on this, you can check it out here).

yeah thats what i tried to do i really suggest you dont do that it kills your system from the inside out...dont do it my friend let the igpu do its thing

[kelvinhall05]

3 minutes ago, robinhood22 said:

yeah thats what i tried to do i really suggest you dont do that it kills your system from the inside out...dont do it my friend let the igpu do its thing

I've had it enabled on 512mb for over a month, and I don't see any signs of it killing my system.

[phoon]

Just now, kelvinhall05 said:

I've had it enabled on 512mb for over a month, and I don't see any signs of it killing my system.

not literally the ram dedicated the to the gpu will mess with your performance it wont do anything for gaming performance

[SteinerW]

Faster memory will help. if it's 1333 mhz, you should upgraded to the highest speed your laptop supports, which is probably 1600, but might be 1866. I would dedicate at least 1 GB of memory to the IGPU. 

[kelvinhall05]

Just now, robinhood22 said:

not literally the ram dedicated the to the gpu will mess with your performance it wont do anything for gaming performance

Well, you just answered OP's original question.

[SirFlamenco]

You should buy a gpu because intel graphics is very bad

 

[PhreakZero]

2 minutes ago, 3DGamerOnSteam said:

Faster memory will help. if it's 1333 mhz, you should upgraded to the highest speed your laptop supports, which is probably 1600, but might be 1866. I would dedicate at least 1 GB of memory to the IGPU. 

Im using 4+2 1600mhz, i think an extra 4gb module would help

[phoon]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Well, you just answered OP's original question.

i didnt even notice  upgrading the ram will permit you to play more games that require more ram and higher speed ram will help a tiny bit but know that ill tell you that windows will be using ram and if a game says it needs 4gb of ram and you only have 3.5 gb USABLE you'll have trouble

[PhreakZero]

2 minutes ago, SirFlamenco said:

You should buy a gpu because intel graphics is very bad

 

I have a desktop pc, its just that im going to travel and im taking my laptop with me

[Princess Luna]

Many laptop bios don't allow you allocate more vram to the Intel HD Graphics, like it's my case with an Acer that locked the dedicated ram to the Intel HD Graphics 5500 on 128mb. So your benefit from adding ram would only help the CPU not the iGPU if that's the case, you should check if you can increase the dedicated graphic ram before considering adding more ram, because if you can't I personally don't see much benefit from doing so considering you already have 6gb and this is a casual gaming device.

[DocSwag]

18 minutes ago, robinhood22 said:

thats what im doing for now until i get 1080 ti but im gaming on 6700k igpu with 32gb of ram you'll get aroung 60 fps on high settings in csgo but then again deppends on your cpu no AAA gaming unless on 720p

Uh... that's a pretty different iGPU than the one the OP has... I wouldn't really say the performance of them is that easily comparable...

[SteinerW]

3 minutes ago, PhreakZero said:

Im using 4+2 1600mhz, i think an extra 4gb module would help

It might help a little. I did do some of my own tests a while back with my laptop's igpu. it has a i5 5200u. I ran some tests with 3dmarks skygate... cloud gate.... something like that. All the memory was 1600 mhz. I tested with 2 GB's dedicated to the gpu. I tested single 4GB stick, 4+2 GB sticks, and 4+4GB sticks. The difference between 4+2 and 4+4 was like 50-100 points every time. real world terms thats maybe 1fps gain.

[phoon]

5 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Uh... that's a pretty different iGPU than the one the OP has... I wouldn't really say the performance of them is that easily comparable...

it is but i saw a video on intel graphics performance and my 6700k and his 4210 are not that different

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, robinhood22 said:

it is but i saw a video on intel graphics performance and my 6700k and his 4210 are not that different

One has 4 cores and the other has 2...

[PhreakZero]

2 minutes ago, robinhood22 said:

it is but i saw a video on intel graphics performance and my 6700k and his 4210 are not that different

Dude theres a huge difference my laptop its using an U processor it stands for ultralow voltage

[YoloSwag]

1 hour ago, PhreakZero said:

Hey guys, im using a Lenovo Laptop with Core i5 4210U+6Gbs of ram for casual gaming (I mean mainstream games and some indies),this laptop has an intel HD 4400 iGPU (not that bad),I wanna know if i increase the ram up to 8Gbs could i get better framerate or smoother gameplay?,Thanks
 

I play on an iGPU atm, at least till I get Vega or something. I can tell you this! It's the speed that matters the most...aside from core frequency.

 

Increasing your ram doesn't give you much unless your video game does take up your entire system memory.

[SLAYR]

1 hour ago, PhreakZero said:

Im using 4+2 1600mhz, i think an extra 4gb module would help

Not really, lower end igpus only really use 512mb to a 1Gb of ram max, They are too slow to be able to utilize more. Most laptops have a limit to the ram frequency.

 

I would recommend 8gb of ram just to run windows and a web browser though.

[Godlygamer23]

1 hour ago, kelvinhall05 said:

AFAIK, iGPUs can take advantage of system memory, not sure how much though. One thing you could do is go into BIOS and increase the amount of RAM the iGPU can use (I made a guide on this, you can check it out here).

It's not that it "can" take advantage of it. It's that it has to use system RAM. That is its primary means of storing data.