Should I?

[Nightwolf121]

I am going to make a choice here. These are my given options.

OPTION #1--- Upgrade my i5-4460 to a i7-4790K

OPTION #2--- Upgrade my GTX 1060 to a GTX 1070

Right Now My CPU really bottlenecks and is always at 100% usage on games such as battlefield 1 or GTA V.

[Shiv78]

3 minutes ago, Nightwolf121 said:

OPTION #1--- Upgrade my i5-4460 to a i7-4790K

 

 

[aeroencychris]

If you have a CPU bottleneck with that usage then yeah, go for the i7.

What resolution are you playing at? What's your GPU usage looking like?

[Nightwolf121]

3 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

If you have a CPU bottleneck with that usage then yeah, go for the i7.

What resolution are you playing at? What's your GPU usage looking like?

GPU is 40-50. CPU is 100% on alot of Games. Also playing at 1920x1080 60HZ

[aeroencychris]

Just now, Nightwolf121 said:

GPU is 40-50. CPU is 100% on alot of Games.

Yep, then go for the 4790k

Do you have a Z97 mobo and decent cooler to overclock it?

[Nightwolf121]

Just now, cdsboy2000 said:

Yep, then go for the 4790k

Do you have a Z97 mobo and decent cooler to overclock it?

If the Asrock H97m pro 4 is a z97 sure. Yes I have a cooler-master fan. Alot of people say that the I7 "sucks" because it is Haswell.

[aeroencychris]

2 minutes ago, Nightwolf121 said:

If the Asrock H97m pro 4 is a z97 sure. Yes I have a cooler-master fan. Alot of people say that the I7 "sucks" because it is Haswell.

An Asrock H97m pro 4 would be H97, not Z97

You'd have to get a new mobo that actually uses Z97 in order to overclock

Look here: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=99

 

Edit: the 4790k doesn't suck at all, but if you're comparing it to the Skylake 6700k then it is a bit lesser. I don't think it's worthwhile for you to get a new mobo and RAM just for Skylake, though.

[Nightwolf121]

2 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Damn. That's weird, a 4460 really shouldn't be doing that. Rule out any software problems before you bite the bullet

I did troubleshoot a bit. If I increase the graphical settings it puts the GPU usage at 60-70% which decreases strain on the CPU. But it still remains at 95-100% usage. I did look at the requirements for BF1 and apparently I am way below requirements!!  

 

https://www.battlefield.com/games/battlefield-1/tech

[aeroencychris]

Just now, Nightwolf121 said:

I did troubleshoot a bit. If I increase the graphical settings it puts the GPU usage at 60-70% which decreases strain on the CPU. But it still remains at 95-100% usage. I did look at the requirements for BF1 and apparently I am way below requirements!!  

 

https://www.battlefield.com/games/battlefield-1/tech

I would test it on my GTX 970 and i5 4460 combo if I owned the game 

[Nightwolf121]

2 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

An Asrock H97m pro 4 would be H97, not Z97

You'd have to get a new mobo that actually uses Z97 in order to overclock

Look here: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=99

 

Edit: the 4790k doesn't suck at all, but if you're comparing it to the Skylake 6700k then it is a bit lesser. I don't think it's worthwhile for you to get a new mobo and RAM just for Skylake, though.

Ok so should I just get a 6700K and Overclock that?

[Nightwolf121]

I do not want to get a New Motherboard lol. I really want the i7-6700K. But then you need DDR4 and A new Motherboard. I might as well buy a new PC!

[MoonlightSylv]

11 minutes ago, Nightwolf121 said:

If the Asrock H97m pro 4 is a z97 sure. Yes I have a cooler-master fan. Alot of people say that the I7 "sucks" because it is Haswell.

Actually older bios versions support overclocking.

[mrchow19910319]

i7 4790k should be fine. 

Don't buy a new 6700k.... not really a big jump. 

[Nightwolf121]

1 minute ago, mrchow19910319 said:

i7 4790k should be fine. 

Don't buy a new 6700k.... not really a big jump. 

It appears not to be? I looked at the specs and really the only difference is the architecture... 

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, Nightwolf121 said:

It appears not to be? I looked at the specs and really the only difference is the architecture... 

Unless you're overclocking, the 6700K isn't worth an entire platform upgrade over the 4790K. When it comes to overclocking, the benefit is that it seems that the 6700K doesn't take as much in order to keep it in a happy temperature range.

[mrchow19910319]

1 minute ago, Nightwolf121 said:

It appears not to be? I looked at the specs and really the only difference is the architecture... 

I stil think that those gaming company is trying to push everyone to the latest gen. So intel can bank rolling like crazy. 

I am not an expert when it comes to bottlenecking though. 

But I remembered someone said the newest gen is just 4-5% faster than the last gen haswell chip. 

To me it is never worth it. I am using a i7 4770. And I play games like witcher 3 at 1440p using my GTX780. 

 

Do not jump to conclusion you need to buy a new mobo, new set of ram, new cpu.

Hear what other people say. 

[aeroencychris]

15 minutes ago, Nightwolf121 said:

Ok so should I just get a 6700K and Overclock that?

 

18 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

I don't think it's worthwhile for you to get a new mobo and RAM just for Skylake, though.

 

[aeroencychris]

Just now, mrchow19910319 said:

I stil think that those gaming company is trying to push everyone to the latest gen. So intel can bank rolling like crazy. 

I am not an expert when it comes to bottlenecking though. 

But I remembered someone said the newest gen is just 4-5% faster than the last gen haswell chip. 

To me it is never worth it. I am using a i7 4770. And I play games like witcher 3 at 1440p using my GTX780. 

 

Do not jump to conclusion you need to buy a new mobo, new set of ram, new cpu.

Hear what other people say. 

I don't really agree with the whole marketing conspiracy thing, but yeah, no reason to always be latest gen.

That being said, if I were to build something completely fresh I would highly suggest Skylake.

[mrchow19910319]

1 minute ago, cdsboy2000 said:

I don't really agree with the whole marketing conspiracy thing, but yeah, no reason to always be latest gen.

That being said, if I were to build something completely fresh I would highly suggest Skylake.

Yeah. Agree. If you wanna build a new pc, you should only consider the latest gen. 

Edit: Cos all those old parts (ddr3 ram, old motherboard especially) is gonna become obsolete super fast, a lot sooner than you think. 

Edited November 14, 2016 by mrchow19910319

[Nightwolf121]

So basically I should just get the 2 year old I7 processor?

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

An I5-4460 should have no problem pushing a 1060 to 90-99% usage in almost every game, clearly there is another issue going on that needs to be solved before you buy anything. A CPU upgrade likely wont help much unless you have several intensive background applications running, 

[Nightwolf121]

And this is a bit off topic from this but for some odd reason when i have vsync on it still screen tears in battlefield 1...

[Nightwolf121]

Holy crap guys I just fixed it. It was directX causing a problem. now at 60-70 cpu usage

[Shiv78]

Just now, Nightwolf121 said:

Holy crap guys I just fixed it. It was directX causing a problem. now at 60-70 cpu usage

noice. no upgrade required

[mrchow19910319]

10 minutes ago, Nightwolf121 said:

Holy crap guys I just fixed it. It was directX causing a problem. now at 60-70 cpu usage

Congrats!