i5 6500 be okay for now?

[Panda255]

Just wondering if a i5 6500 will be okay with my gtx 1070 until i save more money for a i5 6600k or if its even worth it seeming i dont overclock 

[Juggern0ttt]

8 minutes ago, Panda255 said:

Just wondering if a i5 6500 will be okay with my gtx 1070 until i save more money for a i5 6600k or if its even worth it seeming i dont overclock 

If your not going to overclock you might as well get the 6500. You won't get a noticeable performance boost from the slightly higher boost clock in games from a 6600k.

[Panda255]

11 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

A 6500 is "okay" for a GTX 1070, but you'll see massive bottlenecking, probably over 25% in some titles. Even an overclocked 6600K at 4.5 GHz can't keep up with the 6700K when running the GTX 1070. My advice would be to pick up a Z170 board now and a 6500, then get a 6700K or a 7700K (with a BIOS update) when you can afford it, and skip the 6600K all together. 

Cheapest z170 motherboard is like another 60$ but thanks for the tip

[ARikozuM]

I don't overclock my 4690K nor my 4790K. The benefits of the extra clocks are more than enough currently.

[Panda255]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

I don't overclock my 4690K nor my 4790K. The benefits of the extra clocks are more than enough currently.

I dont understand lmao

[SnowyMus]

27 minutes ago, Panda255 said:

Just wondering if a i5 6500 will be okay with my gtx 1070 until i save more money for a i5 6600k or if its even worth it seeming i dont overclock 

You'll be just fine.

 

5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I don't overclock my 4690K nor my 4790K. The benefits of the extra clocks are more than enough currently.

So why did you buy a Z97 motherboard? SLI?

[Panda255]

4 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

Okay if you don't plan on overclocking, then get just a standard Skylake board and get the standard i7 6700 when it's time. Anything below will bottleneck the GTX 1070. 

K thanks

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Kavawuvi said:

You'll be just fine.

 

So why did you buy a Z97 motherboard?

It's blue and it has the features that I need and wanted. And I do have some OC profiles set up, but not for 24/7 in f#cking Florida.

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Jorgen297 said:

OCing is such a dream tho, my stock CPU uses the same voltage as my 4.5GHz overclock so why not lol. 

I have the A/C on 70! and the room still hits 78 and I'm dying trying to cool down when I use the 4.5Ghz at Xvolts. I'd flay myself like an A&P model before doing it all-day, every day.

[Juggern0ttt]

The 6500 will be fine. 

 

Note that he is also running recording software which is cpu intensive. 

 

 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Jorgen297 said:

No it's not fine. The Titan X (Maxwell) is similar, even a little worse in performance than the GTX 1070, and look how much a stock 6600K bottlenecks compared to both an overclocked one and the 6700K. 

 

 

The OP can use DSR to create more work for the GPU. Stop pushing an idiotic agenda if you're not going to give methods to remedy the situation aside from downgrade.

[Juggern0ttt]

That guy goes out of his way to bottleneck the 6400 on a 1070 with no luck. There are gpu% and cpu% noted throughout the entirety of the video , the only game that even stutters the 6400 is the Witcher 3. The bottom line is the cpu isn't bottlenecking the 1070, there is a small chance it's a bottleneck  itself but it is not hindering  the 1070 from reaching 100% without breaking a sweat . 

[Juggern0ttt]

1 minute ago, Jorgen297 said:

That's at 1440p, not 1080p. The video I showed, which actually compares a CPU to a better CPU (a more scientific method) shows a huge bottleneck at 1080p. The bottom line is that even the 4.5GHz overclocked 6600K can't always keep up with the stock 6700K.

The cpu pushes the 1070 at 100% explain to me how in any universe that is a bottle neck in any way shape or form.  No one has ever once recommended an i7 for gaming over a current i5 because it doesn't make since unless your getting into creative loads like encoding while gaming . 

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Jorgen297 said:

What agenda? The fact that a 6500 bottlenecks the GTX 1070 every day, and you'll have to create artificial workloads for the GTX 1070 to even fully utilize it? I'm not saying downgrade the GPU, I'm saying upgrade the CPU or you'll get bottlenecked. 

An artificial workload? You do realize that making the game run at a higher resolution is nearly the same as DSR, right? We, the PC community, have been able to play beyond our resolutions since the days of 640x480. Things are much better now and if you want to quote your 1080 benchmarks that you have on file again, go for it. Obviously paying an extra 100 should yield more performance. Of course, hyperthreading can help games. Of course, we all need i7's for gaming.

You're paying 100 dollars for 8-10% gains.

[Juggern0ttt]

2 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

Did you even watch the video I linked? Did you see the frame differences between the 6600K and 6700K? That's a bottleneck. An i5 is not enough for the new high end Nvidia GPUs even in gaming if you don't want a bottleneck. The "i5 for gaming, i7 for workstation loads"-saying died at the release of the Titan X (Maxwell) and 980ti because GPUs caught up with CPUs. Please re-educate yourself and watch the video I linked and stop spreading misinformation. 

Is not bottlenecking the 1070 though. A cpu can be a bottleneck without bottlenecking the gpu. . . . . The 1070 is reaching full utilization it's  not bottlenecked. 

[ARikozuM]

4 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

Did you even watch the video I linked? Did you see the frame differences between the 6600K and 6700K? That's a bottleneck. An i5 is not enough for the new high end Nvidia GPUs even in gaming if you don't want a bottleneck. The "i5 for gaming, i7 for workstation loads"-saying died at the release of the Titan X (Maxwell) and 980ti because GPUs caught up with CPUs. Please re-educate yourself and watch the video I linked and stop spreading misinformation. 

That's because we're still playing 1080. We wouldn't be seeing these occurrences with 1440 or 2160 or, hell let me throw my setup, 5760x1080. A stock 6600K is at 3.6Ghz and the 6700K is at 4.0. Once the overclock is at 4.0, both CPU's perform the same (and I've tested my 4690K and 4790K to similar results) with little variance. Some games even skipped frames due to hyperthreading like Rocket League.

[Juggern0ttt]

Goodluck on your rig Panda255 hopefully you've found some of this info from either side insightful and helpful. Alas I'm done  here.  

[Matias_Chambers]

It will bottleneck in some games like GTA V, Battlefield 1 and 4, Ashes of the singularity and The Witcher 3 even at 1440p. Even a 6600K overclocked will.