Something is eating my memory

[AndersT2]

The last couple of days my machine has startet do appear slow, and I found that there's no free memory.

I have 16 GB of RAM, and never had this problem before. I haven't installed anything in a while, and Microsoft Security Essentials can't find anything wrong either.

 

I attached 2 photos. The one in Norwegian is mine, and the one in English I found on the net to compare with.

 

The english one is as mine used to look like, with about 10-12 GB free  memory. Now as seen my picture it now is very low, normally at "0" where it stands Free/Ledig.

When I start the machine it's as it should, but it suddenly starts to slowely get down to "0"

 

Anybody knows what the problem can be?

 

Nothing seems to help. If I lock all programs I have open, it still remains at "0"

 

The machine feels slow, and videos stutther (?).

It runs W7 Home Premium

 

 

EDIT: Do NOT replay about the english picture, it's not mine, just the first I found on the net

[helping]

dem cores..

 

did you check under the processes tab and sort by memory usage?

[megadarkwood]

The last couple of days my machine has startet do appear slow, and I found that there's no free memory.

I have 16 GB of RAM, and never had this problem before. I haven't installed anything in a while, and Microsoft Security Essentials can't find anything wrong either.

 

I attached 2 photos. The one in Norwegian is mine, and the one in English I found on the net to compare with.

 

The english one is as mine used to look like, with about 10-12 GB free  memory. Now as seen my picture it now is very low, normally at "0" where it stands Free/Ledig.

When I start the machine it's as it should, but it suddenly starts to slowely get down to "0"

 

Anybody knows what the problem can be?

 

Nothing seems to help. If I lock all programs I have open, it still remains at "0"

 

The machine feels slow, and videos stutther (?).

It runs W7 Home Premium

Problem is that you are comparing with a server with like 64cores and 140gb ram...

[wtfxmitchell]

open your case, maybe there are some of those, you know, ''little people''

[Vitalius]

.... Wh-.... What am I looking at?

140GB of RAM?

1899 threads? 

...
 

[coen113]

screenshot of all users processes please?

[Volbet]

Go into "Programmer" and check which applications are using your system memory.  

[Warcony]

Try rebooting your computer, then check task manager and sort by memory usage.  Try and pin point what it is that way.

[M-ursu]

Memory monster!

Seriously is there any programs running in backround?

[wtfxmitchell]

i think nasa is trying to say that they want their pc back...

[AndersT2]

Don't look at the numers on the english picture, it's just one I found on the net. Not mine.

 

When sorted by memory usage, there is nothing unusual. There are not any programs running that I don't know what is for either, Don't seem to be any maleware or anything like it.

Right now it uses aboutr 5.6 GB ram, I normally never have seen it use more than 3 on normal use.

[AndersT2]

Here is a picture of the running prossesses with system programs:

With these programs it says it uses 5.6 GB, which don't add up

[AndersT2]

Problem is that you are comparing with a server with like 64cores and 140gb ram...

 

I'm only comparing to what MY pc said before, the picture is only one I found so it would be easier to get you to understand my problem, since my OS is in Norwegian, and most here uses English.

[Glenwing]

Resource Monitor will tell you how much RAM every application is using.

[AndersT2]

Resource Monitor will tell you how much RAM every application is using.

 

I have never used it before. How do I read all the informations. Can't figure out all the different numbers, and what they represent. The only one is the last one which in norwegian is called "Private", which seems to be the same that's shown under processen on task manager.

 

Anybody who could help explaine to me what the other numbers refers to?

[Glenwing]

I have never used it before. How do I read all the informations. Can't figure out all the different numbers, and what they represent. The only one is the last one which in norwegian is called "Private", which seems to be the same that's shown under processen on task manager.

 

Anybody who could help explaine to me what the other numbers refers to?

 

Commit (KB) is the amount of virtual memory reserved by the operating system for the process

Working Set (KB) is the amount of physical memory currently in use by the process.

 

Working Set (KB) is the amount of RAM each process is using, every 1,000 is 1MB, every 1,000,000 is 1GB being used by that process.  Commit (KB) is usually almost the same number though.  So reading either of those will tell you about how much each process is using.  They should be organized in order of heaviest RAM process.

[Leonard]

Microsoft Security Essentials can't find anything wrong either.

^ That security system is just terrible. It can be a malicious software that cannot be found by MSE. I would advise you to open task manager and then click on the processors tab and then click on the Show processes from all users, and look for the process that is using up your RAM capacity and then right click that process and choose Open File Location and see what program it is.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Wow that's a whole lot of processes. However, I don't think they are the problem. You didn't somehow create a RAMdisk, did you?

[AndersT2]

Wow that's a whole lot of processes. However, I don't think they are the problem. You didn't somehow create a RAMdisk, did you?

 

If you read my post again, it's only the first picture I found to get the english version of the task manager to compare to since my OS is in Norwegian.

 

Not my machine.

[That Norwegian Guy]

If you read my post again, it's only the first picture I found to get the english version of the task manager to compare to since my OS is in Norwegian.

 

Not my machine.

 

No I'm referring to this post:

 

Here is a picture of the running prossesses with system programs:

With these programs it says it uses 5.6 GB, which don't add up

Which actually is your task manager right?

[AndersT2]

Commit (KB) is the amount of virtual memory reserved by the operating system for the process

Working Set (KB) is the amount of physical memory currently in use by the process.

 

Working Set (KB) is the amount of RAM each process is using, every 1,000 is 1MB, every 1,000,000 is 1GB being used by that process.  Commit (KB) is usually almost the same number though.  So reading either of those will tell you about how much each process is using.  They should be organized in order of heaviest RAM process.

 

Thanks for the info, I will use some time and try to understand it. But it seems the sinner is the bittorrent program. It doesn't show in the numbers. But yesterday I started the machine, and starten one program after the other, with 5-10 minutes between, until I ran all my most used programs and sites.

 

And it was when bittorrent got started that it suddenly startet to go to "0" at free. It was about an hour before I turned bittorrent on. Today I opened bittorrent as the first program, and after a short time went to "0".

 

If I turn bittorrent off, the memory don't return.

 

^ That security system is just terrible. It can be a malicious software that cannot be found by MSE. I would advise you to open task manager and then click on the processors tab and then click on the Show processes from all users, and look for the process that is using up your RAM capacity and then right click that process and choose Open File Location and see what program it is.

 

I choose to use MSE after I read a few reviews from good sources that said it was great. And stuck with it after using it for a long time. First antivirus program that hasn't bothered me in any way. Norton sucks, it might be a good to find stuff, but last time I used it took too many resources, and too much work to keep it up to date (I know it's become a little better since I tested it the last time). AVG was better, but still too "needy" (free-version). Then I used, don't remember the name, but ended in "32", for 2 years (paid version), and didn't find it too good either, so Im did want to pay more for that one. After that I've used MSE, and it has been great for me. Never found a treath on my PC, as I did a couple of times with AVG and Norton. But I'll test the one I can get free from my bank, think it's Norton (It's McAfee), to see if it detects anything. If not, I'm back with MSE

 

I have show all processes and sorted them. The problem is that no program have used more than 250.000 kb, and my Task Manager says it only uses around 25% of the memory, which the numbers it shown combined backs up. The other 75% of the memory seems to disappear with no explanation.

 

But as I mentioned to Glenwing in this post, it seems that bittorrent is the sinner, but I have to look into why it is.

[AndersT2]

No I'm referring to this post:

 

Which actually is your task manager right?

 

Thought you, as a few others was on about the other one. Sorry

 

right under 80 processes seems to be normal for me, on every PC I run, so I take that as normal. There's only a few that uses over 100.000 kb of memory, most uses 10.000 kb or under normally. And as it says it only uses about 35% on the picture I put up there.

[Leonard]

Thanks for the info, I will use some time and try to understand it. But it seems the sinner is the bittorrent program. It doesn't show in the numbers. But yesterday I started the machine, and starten one program after the other, with 5-10 minutes between, until I ran all my most used programs and sites.

 

And it was when bittorrent got started that it suddenly startet to go to "0" at free. It was about an hour before I turned bittorrent on. Today I opened bittorrent as the first program, and after a short time went to "0".

 

If I turn bittorrent off, the memory don't return.

 

 

I choose to use MSE after I read a few reviews from good sources that said it was great. And stuck with it after using it for a long time. First antivirus program that hasn't bothered me in any way. Norton sucks, it might be a good to find stuff, but last time I used it took too many resources, and too much work to keep it up to date (I know it's become a little better since I tested it the last time). AVG was better, but still too "needy" (free-version). Then I used, don't remember the name, but ended in "32", for 2 years (paid version), and didn't find it too good either, so Im did want to pay more for that one. After that I've used MSE, and it has been great for me. Never found a treath on my PC, as I did a couple of times with AVG and Norton. But I'll test the one I can get free from my bank, think it's Norton (It's McAfee), to see if it detects anything. If not, I'm back with MSE

 

I have show all processes and sorted them. The problem is that no program have used more than 250.000 kb, and my Task Manager says it only uses around 25% of the memory, which the numbers it shown combined backs up. The other 75% of the memory seems to disappear with no explanation.

 

But as I mentioned to Glenwing in this post, it seems that bittorrent is the sinner, but I have to look into why it is.

MSE, AVG, Norton and the other anti-virus you are talking about is NOD32 is a waste of time for internet security. Another one that is also not good although everyone seems to think it is, is Avast. Avast uses faulse negatives to make you think it is working, e.g. when you put in a flash drive and that flash drive has software that it comes with Avast alerts you about it being a virus when it is not. Another thing Avast does is flag every .inf file as a virus when an .inf is embedded on every flash drive i can think of and while there are viruses that .inf files to load itself on to a system not every .inf file is a virus.

 

Bittorent could very well be the culprit but it maybe a combination of two reasons.

1) bittorrent does use lots of resources especially when it is left running for over two hours. This is the reason i ended up using BitComet as it is more light weight and easier to use than bittorrent. 

2) I have found that when you like to torrent like i do. it is wise to have a proper firewall to block and control the different types of attacks that come with that community. In early 2004 is when i started torrenting and i did not know about all the attacks that come with torrenting and like you had a system that seemed to be slow and non responsive and could not find out how until i was told about firewalls and controlling ports.

 

Those two issues could be contributing to the problem. I set my anti-virus to run every night when i go to sleep and i also run my torrents at the same time and when i get up the task manager says that i am using something like 15GB of my 16GB. That comes from the anti-virus deep scan i run every night but not my torrenting and that happens because deep scan uses almost all of my RAM and like 48% if my CPU and that is why i do it when i go to sleep.

 

I use Outpost Security Suite because the firewall is really good and once you get used to using it, it is a breeze to use. Webroot internet security and Kaspersky internet security are two other good all round home PC security software.

[AndersT2]

MSE, AVG, Norton and the other anti-virus you are talking about is NOD32 is a waste of time for internet security. .

 

Cut the post to keep the quote windows smaller'.

 

Avast I tried a short time, was irriating and useless as you say. I installed McAfee, and it did find some that MSE didn't. I'm don't know too much about viruses and stuff, but I mostly are careful on the net. But did't know they could hide trojans inside pictures and stuff like that. One learns every day.

 

So it seems I have to read a lot this weekend to learn this alittle better. I'm running a Emergancy Kit scanner from Emsisoft now, and it seems to fins some more maleware.

 

I will check out Outpost Security Suite as you mention. Any other tips would be great to.

 

 

Edit: I'm definetly not holding onto McAfee, it's seems too like Norton for me, heavy usage, and to annoying to use. And it uses way to many resources for my taste.

[Leonard]

Edit: I'm definetly not holding onto McAfee, it's seems too like Norton for me, heavy usage, and to annoying to use. And it uses way to many resources for my taste.

Did the same on cutting your post in the quote.

 

They also hide malware in the torrents folders themselves. Emergency Kit scanner is ok but Malwarebytes is a very good scanner and eradicator of malware too. I bet you when you finished scanning with Emergency Kit scanner and you run malwarebytes it would still find malware. I agree with the McAfee, it was bad from inception. WebRoot is also very good, better than Outpost Security Suite as i have used both over the last three years but i kept using Outpost Securety Suite because i purchased a lifetime serial which was cheaper that a one year licences from webroot at the time.

 

TIPS

1) Set any torrents that you have downloaded to be scanned as they have finished downloaded. BitComet allows this. 

2) Set proper rules in your firewall for all the programs you use and networks you are connected to when you start using a proper one.

3) Never open files other than what you wanted to download. In the folders in torrents people like to put advertisements and system.bat in the folders.

4) You can also use you router's SPI firewall in conjunction with you system firewall for more protection but understand nothing is infallible.