Office PC

[jaffacakes]

Heya,

 

So I'm building a new office PC for my parents. They operate with AutoCAD and SketchUp (Pro, if that makes any difference). They're maximum budget is €900 (if needed) and I'm buying in Italy.

 

I threw this together in 5 minutes, anything I could change? I'm trying to keep a clean look without windowed panels nor lights. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€305.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler  (€27.49 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€91.71 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€85.11 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€94.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€82.93 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€39.35 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€47.66 @ Amazon Italia) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive  (€13.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Other: Windows 10 Professional (€25.99)
Total: €813.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-18 23:23 CEST+0200

 

If any more info is needed, feel free to ask.

 

Cheers.

[m0k]

looks fine, maybe spend 20-30 euro more and get a better PSU?

[ImperialSteele]

Not required, but I would get a 400-450W PSU. Even without a GFX card or overclockable CPU it's good to have the head room, especially with them running Auto CAD which is fairly intensive.

[Cereal5]

Looks good to me. But yeah, what he said about a PSU. Also a hyper TX3 for 25 euros seems really expensive

[Lehti]

I suggest you double-check if AutoCAD is heavily multi-threaded. If it isn't, an i5 will more than suffice. Also, depending on where in Italy you live, you may not need an aftermarket cooler for that CPU: the stock one will work great for you.

[Dackzy]

1 hour ago, Lehti said:

I suggest you double-check if AutoCAD is heavily multi-threaded. If it isn't, an i5 will more than suffice. Also, depending on where in Italy you live, you may not need an aftermarket cooler for that CPU: the stock one will work great for you.

have you ever worked with autocad? it can get a real 8 core CPU to run at 100%

[Dackzy]

OP get a better PSU. That PSU you found is just a fire hazard. I would atleast get a 550w so you can add a GPU at some point if you want to. I would also get ram that runs at 2600MHz

[Lehti]

3 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

have you ever worked with autocad? it can get a real 8 core CPU to run at 100%

Then the OP should stick to that Core i7.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 hours ago, mok said:

looks fine, maybe spend 20-30 euro more and get a better PSU?

 

2 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

But yeah, what he said about a PSU. 

 

32 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

OP get a better PSU. That PSU you found is just a fire hazard.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3902/antec-earthwatts-ea-380d-green-380w/9

[m0k]

14 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

 

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3902/antec-earthwatts-ea-380d-green-380w/9

ill be honest, its got great reviews but my only problem is that 80mm fan lol
i hope it doesnt get loud under load
aside from that its great

[m0k]

17 hours ago, ImperialSteele said:

Not required, but I would get a 400-450W PSU. Even without a GFX card or overclockable CPU it's good to have the head room, especially with them running Auto CAD which is fairly intensive.

 

15 hours ago, Dackzy said:

OP get a better PSU. That PSU you found is just a fire hazard. I would atleast get a 550w so you can add a GPU at some point if you want to. I would also get ram that runs at 2600MHz

OP doesnt needd the wattage
the i7 6700 is rated for 65watts....

and he has no intention of adding a GPU - does autocad even benefit from GPU acceleration?
also hes on a tight budget

[jaffacakes]

15 hours ago, Dackzy said:

OP get a better PSU. That PSU you found is just a fire hazard. I would atleast get a 550w so you can add a GPU at some point if you want to. I would also get ram that runs at 2600MHz

Skylake CPUs support up to 2133MHz RAM (http://ark.intel.com/products/88196/Intel-Core-i7-6700-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz), so there's no reason on spending more money for 2600 RAM if it'll run at 2133. (correct me if I'm wrong).

[m0k]

6 minutes ago, The Slimy Pig said:

Skylake CPUs support up to 2133MHz RAM (http://ark.intel.com/products/88196/Intel-Core-i7-6700-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz), so there's no reason on spending more money for 2600 RAM if it'll run at 2133. (correct me if I'm wrong).

no, skylake cpu's can support somethign crazy like 3600mhz on z170 chipsets
but certain motherboards do NOT support those speeds

 

ex. OP's motherboard seems to be rated for 2133mhz

[jaffacakes]

2 minutes ago, mok said:

no, skylake cpu's can support somethign crazy like 3600mhz on z170 chipsets
but certain motherboards do NOT support those speeds

 

ex. OP's motherboard seems to be rated for 2133mhz

Thanks for the explanation.

 

And I don't really think that AutoCAD would benefit that much from faster RAM (again, I may be wrong).

[jaffacakes]

18 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

Looks good to me. But yeah, what he said about a PSU. Also a hyper TX3 for 25 euros seems really expensive

As explained above, the PSU is just fine.

 

The TX3 is the cheapest aftermarket cooler from a remarkable brand.

[Quaker]

18 hours ago, The Slimy Pig said:

Other: Windows 10 Professional (€25.99)

There's no need to get Win 10 Pro. The Pro version just has some additional networking stuff that's mostly only of use to IT admins. You might be able to save a few euros by getting regular old Windows 10 Home 64-bit.

 

Another minor point. The i7-6700 (non-K) comes with a stock cooler. However, the TX3 is quieter and runs a bit cooler.

 

 

[Dackzy]

1 hour ago, mok said:

 does autocad even benefit from GPU acceleration?

yes, there is a mod to get GTX support, without that it is Quadro and FirePro only.

[jaffacakes]

25 minutes ago, Quaker said:

There's no need to get Win 10 Pro. The Pro version just has some additional networking stuff that's mostly only of use to IT admins. You might be able to save a few euros by getting regular old Windows 10 Home 64-bit.

 

Another minor point. The i7-6700 (non-K) comes with a stock cooler. However, the TX3 is quieter and runs a bit cooler.

 

 

Right, thanks for the heads up.

I wanted to get an aftermarket cooler since they are usually quieter than the stock one, plus AutoCAD will make the CPU run at a high load (so the cooler the better).

[Redicat]

I don't think that Hyper TX3 Evo meets the TDP standards for a high end I7 like this.. nvm it does. i have used it but the temps idk..

 

Are your parents really need a Quad Core with Hyperthreading? isn't that OVERKILL. NO GAMES? NO EDITING? just BARE OFFICE?

[jaffacakes]

20 hours ago, Redicat said:

I don't think that Hyper TX3 Evo meets the TDP standards for a high end I7 like this.. nvm it does. i have used it but the temps idk..

 

Are your parents really need a Quad Core with Hyperthreading? isn't that OVERKILL. NO GAMES? NO EDITING? just BARE OFFICE?

The stock cooler Can handle the 6700, so can the TX3, as it's better.

 

Yes they do need it, as AutoCAD is really demanding (they're not just doing spreadsheets).

[NTDaws]

On 10/18/2016 at 3:25 PM, The Slimy Pig said:

Heya,

 

So I'm building a new office PC for my parents. They operate with AutoCAD and SketchUp (Pro, if that makes any difference). They're maximum budget is €900 (if needed) and I'm buying in Italy.

 

I threw this together in 5 minutes, anything I could change? I'm trying to keep a clean look without windowed panels nor lights. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€305.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler  (€27.49 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€91.71 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€85.11 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€94.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€82.93 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€39.35 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€47.66 @ Amazon Italia) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive  (€13.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Other: Windows 10 Professional (€25.99)
Total: €813.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-18 23:23 CEST+0200

 

If any more info is needed, feel free to ask.

 

Cheers.

Well for a the best CPU I would go for a i3-6100 and a geforce gt 610. lol

[jaffacakes]

19 hours ago, Dawson Wehage said:

Well for a the best CPU I would go for a i3-6100 and a geforce gt 610. lol

Uhm, AutoCAD is heavy af.

 

They have similar setups now (i3-4xxx's and some crap GT GPUs) and they struggle a lot with the programme.

[NTDaws]

4 hours ago, The Slimy Pig said:

Uhm, AutoCAD is heavy af.

 

They have similar setups now (i3-4xxx's and some crap GT GPUs) and they struggle a lot with the programme.

Its a joke. no one buys i3 for heavy workloads, sometimes.

[Quaker]

Well, the main difference is just render time. You can use a Pentium if you're willing to wait all day for a render.