pc My first PC build.

[danieldn10002]

Hello my name is Danie, i came here today to ask you guys a question. I will have around 1000-1500 USD and i am not to much of a tech guy i started to watch Linus for tips and tricks and till now im loving it.

So yea i will have around 1000-1500 USD and i would like to build a powerfull computer in that range but i dont know where to start and to choose all the hardware so please help me.

[Rohime]

What are you going to be using the PC for  (mostly) ?

Do you need Monitor and keyboard and mice and stuff as well, or just the PC base box?

[Brooksie359]

13 minutes ago, danieldn10002 said:

Hello my name is Danie, i came here today to ask you guys a question. I will have around 1000-1500 USD and i am not to much of a tech guy i started to watch Linus for tips and tricks and till now im loving it.

So yea i will have around 1000-1500 USD and i would like to build a powerfull computer in that range but i dont know where to start and to choose all the hardware so please help me.

Pcpartpicker.com should help alot if you are looking to build a pc. It will tell you if things are compatible

[Brooksie359]

20 minutes ago, danieldn10002 said:

Hello my name is Danie, i came here today to ask you guys a question. I will have around 1000-1500 USD and i am not to much of a tech guy i started to watch Linus for tips and tricks and till now im loving it.

So yea i will have around 1000-1500 USD and i would like to build a powerfull computer in that range but i dont know where to start and to choose all the hardware so please help me.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jnCYXH         this would be a good build for around that much. You can use this as a starting point and change things as needed.

[Praesi]

What will be the main purpose of it?

[Brian McKee]

Just a few key rules you should always remember on building a computer (so you don't make the same mistake I made or probably many others):

 

1. Never skimp on a power supply. Don't get a cheap ass Logisys lookin ass 10 dollar PSU because it'll let you get something like a GTX 1080, get something proper. Power supplies are difficult to shop for so I highly recommend getting the forums here to help you pick out one after you decide on the rest of your components. Just make sure to set aside about 100 dollars JUST for the PSU, especially with your budget.

 

2. Make sure your setup includes at least a boot SSD.

 

3. Don't buy seagate, get a WD Blue or Black when it comes to mechanical drives.

 

4. Don't buy an AMD CPU right now.

 

5. There is little difference between AMD and Nvidia when it comes to graphics cards, just decide based on your needs. For ex if you're looking for a system with a Freesync/Gsync monitor (which I do recommend if you are upgrading your monitor) then an RX 480 will make the most sense since the freesync monitor will not have a premium attached.

 

6. If you don't plan on overclocking you probably don't need an expensive cooler.

[danieldn10002]

1 hour ago, Rohime said:

What are you going to be using the PC for  (mostly) ?

Do you need Monitor and keyboard and mice and stuff as well, or just the PC base box?

mostly gaming but i want to start building games and programming i have a mice maybe a new keyboard but i do need a Monitor

[Matias_Chambers]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NvPrGf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NvPrGf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($324.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Extreme3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 24.0" 144Hz Monitor  ($188.83 @ B&H) 
Other: Windows 10 ($20.00)
Total: $1461.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-18 08:23 EDT-0400

[Jovidah]

4 hours ago, Brian McKee said:

3. Don't buy seagate, get a WD Blue or Black when it comes to mechanical drives.

Let me guess... based on backblaze?

Really, if you don't know what you're talking about and just quote 1 stupid article, just... don't give advice. The backblaze piece is a load of crap.

 

WD and Seagate RMA rates are comparable.

[danieldn10002]

9 hours ago, Matias_Chambers said:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NvPrGf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NvPrGf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($324.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Extreme3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 24.0" 144Hz Monitor  ($188.83 @ B&H) 
Other: Windows 10 ($20.00)
Total: $1461.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-18 08:23 EDT-0400

wow thanks that is super usefull

[TheDankKoosh]

50 minutes ago, danieldn10002 said:

wow thanks that is super usefull

If you want to go for the lower side of that range then this would be nice for the range as well. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kk4V4C

[Armakar]

On 18/10/2016 at 9:15 AM, Brian McKee said:

Just a few key rules you should always remember on building a computer (so you don't make the same mistake I made or probably many others):

 

1. Never skimp on a power supply. Don't get a cheap ass Logisys lookin ass 10 dollar PSU because it'll let you get something like a GTX 1080, get something proper. Power supplies are difficult to shop for so I highly recommend getting the forums here to help you pick out one after you decide on the rest of your components. Just make sure to set aside about 100 dollars JUST for the PSU, especially with your budget.

 

2. Make sure your setup includes at least a boot SSD.

 

3. Don't buy seagate, get a WD Blue or Black when it comes to mechanical drives.

 

4. Don't buy an AMD CPU right now.

 

5. There is little difference between AMD and Nvidia when it comes to graphics cards, just decide based on your needs. For ex if you're looking for a system with a Freesync/Gsync monitor (which I do recommend if you are upgrading your monitor) then an RX 480 will make the most sense since the freesync monitor will not have a premium attached.

 

6. If you don't plan on overclocking you probably don't need an expensive cooler.

Little difference between AMD and NVIDIA? Really? Seriously?

 

The 1070 outperforms pretty much every AMD GPU on the market. That's a pretty big difference considering the 1070 is by no means Nvidias best card.

Nvidia outperforms  AMD at nearly every pricepoint ( granted, when you get to the low-mid pricepoints nvidia sucks but irrelevant for this thread. )

[Brian McKee]

23 minutes ago, Armakar said:

Little difference between AMD and NVIDIA? Really? Seriously?

 

The 1070 outperforms pretty much every AMD GPU on the market. That's a pretty big difference considering the 1070 is by no means Nvidias best card.

Nvidia outperforms  AMD at nearly every pricepoint ( granted, when you get to the low-mid pricepoints nvidia sucks but irrelevant for this thread. )

Fury x crushes the 1070 in DX12/Vulkan and keeps up very well in DX11 titles. Yes I'd say you can't go wrong with either company.

[Armakar]

4 minutes ago, Brian McKee said:

Fury x crushes the 1070 in DX12/Vulkan and keeps up very well in DX11 titles. Yes I'd say you can't go wrong with either company.

The FuryX and 1070 perform different in different games. From the games I play and the stuff I do, the 1070 outperforms the furyX. You could say they are even but the 1070 wins alot of benchmarks, and , i don't keep up to date with AMD, but afaik the FuryX is prettty much AMD's best card.

 

 

Sorry, but it's not even debatable, at any price point above $150 or so, Nvidia wins.

[Brian McKee]

Just now, Armakar said:

The FuryX and 1070 perform different in different games. From the games I play and the stuff I do, the 1070 outperforms the furyX. You could say they are even but the 1070 wins alot of benchmarks, and , i don't keep up to date with AMD, but afaik the FuryX is prettty much AMD's best card.

 

 

Sorry, but it's not even debatable, at any price point above $150 or so, Nvidia wins.

Lol this entirely is based on needs. But no you're absolutely wrong.

 

What about a person who wants to upgrade peripherals but doesn't want to spend a price premium on gsync? What if you want better performance in future titles? What if you need a gpu with better computation? There are lots of reasons to purchase an AMD card at almost any price point, the only stranglehold nvidia has is the extreme high end with the 1080.

 

Not saying someone shouldn't consider a Nvidia GPU but these blanket statements from obvious fanboys is annoying.

[Armakar]

3 minutes ago, Brian McKee said:

Lol this entirely is based on needs. But no you're absolutely wrong.

 

What about a person who wants to upgrade peripherals but doesn't want to spend a price premium on gsync? What if you want better performance in future titles? What if you need a gpu with better computation? There are lots of reasons to purchase an AMD card at almost any price point, the only stranglehold nvidia has is the extreme high end with the 1080.

 

Not saying someone shouldn't consider a Nvidia GPU but these blanket statements from obvious fanboys is annoying.

Your cllinging to this " better at dx12 " statement.

Do you know, first of all, the FuryX is more expensive, and second, older? AMD have had time to develop better complatability, Pascal is quite new and will get better with newer drivers over time, so the " future titles " statement is irrelevant.

 

And for standard high-end users, benchmarks from 1070 beat both the maxwell titan and the furyX convincingly.

[Brian McKee]

Just now, Armakar said:

Your cllinging to this " better at dx12 " statement.Do you know, first of all, the FuryX is more expensive, and second, older? AMD have had time to develop better complatability, Pascal is quite new and will get better with newer drivers over time, so the " future titles " statement is irrelevant.

AMD cards historically stand the test of time better when it comes to performance. It happens every generation where nvidia cards will outperform then lose their edge in a year or two.

 

And it's not clinging to DX12, it's a fact. Here's a little food for thought for you bud, do you know which graphics company has their chips in every single new/refresh gen console coming out? It sure isn't nvidia, it's AMD. The console market is by and far the largest gaming market share, PC gaming means nothing to these companies. And to get the most out of the AMD GPUs you better believe that every single one that develops for the console will be using Async compute to get the best possible performance on their platform.

 

And as we all know nvidia barely benefits/doesn't benefit from async compute.

[Armakar]

1 hour ago, Brian McKee said:

AMD cards historically stand the test of time better when it comes to performance. It happens every generation where nvidia cards will outperform then lose their edge in a year or two.

 

And it's not clinging to DX12, it's a fact. Here's a little food for thought for you bud, do you know which graphics company has their chips in every single new/refresh gen console coming out? It sure isn't nvidia, it's AMD. The console market is by and far the largest gaming market share, PC gaming means nothing to these companies. And to get the most out of the AMD GPUs you better believe that every single one that develops for the console will be using Async compute to get the best possible performance on their platform.

 

And as we all know nvidia barely benefits/doesn't benefit from async compute.

Are you implying that cards just " drastically lose performance " as they age? No, they lose their " edge " because Nvidia release new cards that become more and more powerful every 1-2 years, rather then AMD who just release slightly better garbage then before.

 

And ofcourse consoles do - they are cheap. As I said, in pretty much every market other then the £100 range, nvidia is superior. That's not subject to opinion, the benchmark just shows nvidia is better.

 

And, if you want to talk about graphics companies, I believe it's AMD that uses intel CPU's to benchmark their stuff, because they are that garbage of a company they can't make a processor that even comes near an i7.