amd Best FM2+ CPU?

[Hoshimon]

I built an emergency computer because my laptop was dying and I needed to have somewhere to work. (And I really wanted to build a computer for a while now)
I went on the super cheap and bougth a FM2+ motherboard and a A6-6400K APU. (I bougth an APU since I thougth I wouldnt have money for a Graphics Card in a long while). And it handled light gaming in an "acceptable" way. (30fps+ on American Truck Simulator, 60fps+ on CS:GO and League of Legends, all on the lowest settings possible, I had to stay away from more demanding games that I played on my laptop, like Tomb Raider and GTAV.

But my dad surprised me with an RX470, which is really nice, but couldnt be more bottlenecked by my APU.
So rigth now I'm on the search for the most powerful FM2+ CPU, rigth now I'm looking at the Athlon X4 880K, which I found at a YouTube "cheap build" and after seeing Benchmarks seems good enough, but if you google "best fm2+ cpu" you'll get the idea that the, more expensive (at least locally), and *apparently* less powerfull A10-7850K.
So I'm confused, which is a better CPU? And is there a better FM2+ CPU which I could take a look?

Thanks for any help beforehand.

[Nena Trinity]

Athlon X4 880K is best and you get a cooler equal to the 212 Evo! (or buy 860K + after market cooler)

[Goodman2265]

A8-5600K, Old but gold. OC the fuck out of it

[FireFlame9222]

860k 

[aisle9]

11 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Athlon X4 880K is best and you get a cooler equal to the 212 Evo! (or buy 860K + after market cooler)

This. The 880K is often cheaper than the 860K at this point, and it comes with a higher stock clock and a better cooler.

[Nena Trinity]

Just now, aisle9 said:

This. The 880K is often cheaper than the 860K at this point, and it comes with a higher stock clock and a better cooler.

I normally see it more expensive but yes it is best!

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

I normally see it more expensive but yes it is best!

I frequently see them very close on PCPP, with the 880K often coming in a few dollars cheaper (or more--seen it as low as $70). The 860K, like a certain air cooler, continues to be treated as legendary even though it's been surpassed in its own weight class.

[SLAYR]

37 minutes ago, Goodman2265 said:

A8-5600K, Old but gold. OC the fuck out of it

That is fm2, not fm2+. Some boards may have support for it, but not all, and a pretty crappy cpu especially when compared to the newer athlon cpus.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-5600K-APU-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-880K/m1766vsm121029

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-5600K-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4400/m1766vs3539

[SpaceGhostC2C]

51 minutes ago, Hoshimon said:

I built an emergency computer because my laptop was dying and I needed to have somewhere to work. (And I really wanted to build a computer for a while now)
I went on the super cheap and bougth a FM2+ motherboard and a A6-6400K APU. (I bougth an APU since I thougth I wouldnt have money for a Graphics Card in a long while). And it handled light gaming in an "acceptable" way. (30fps+ on American Truck Simulator, 60fps+ on CS:GO and League of Legends, all on the lowest settings possible, I had to stay away from more demanding games that I played on my laptop, like Tomb Raider and GTAV.

But my dad surprised me with an RX470, which is really nice, but couldnt be more bottlenecked by my APU.
So rigth now I'm on the search for the most powerful FM2+ CPU, rigth now I'm looking at the Athlon X4 880K, which I found at a YouTube "cheap build" and after seeing Benchmarks seems good enough, but if you google "best fm2+ cpu" you'll get the idea that the, more expensive (at least locally), and *apparently* less powerfull A10-7850K.
So I'm confused, which is a better CPU? And is there a better FM2+ CPU which I could take a look?

Thanks for any help beforehand.

The reason why you will often see the A10 as "the best" is because it has an integrated GPU, like your A6. Hence, many people look at the FM2+ socket as an APU socket, and as such refer to "the best FM2+ CPU" as the best APU, to be used as APU, with no other GPU  

The Athlons 8XXK are essentially the same CPUs as the A10s, but without the iGPU. Lacking the iGPU makes them cheaper, even if some Athlons are better than some A10s cpu-wise.

 

Now, since you are asking precisely because you got a discrete GPU, you are safe focusing on Athlons only, you'll save money without sacrificing performance.

[Hoshimon]

26 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

I normally see it more expensive but yes it is best!

In my country the difference between so are like 5000CLP (7 dollars?) so between those I would choose the 880.

[Hoshimon]

2 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

That is fm2, not fm2+. Some boards may have support for it, but not all, and a pretty crappy cpu especially when compared to the newer athlon cpus.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-5600K-APU-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-880K/m1766vsm121029

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-5600K-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4400/m1766vs3539

Maybe I should have told this, my board is a FM2/FM2+ board, so both are acceptable.

[Nena Trinity]

3 minutes ago, Hoshimon said:

In my country the difference between so are like 5000CLP (7 dollars?) so between those I would choose the 880.

Nice!

[Hoshimon]

7 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

The reason why you will often see the A10 as "the best" is because it has an integrated GPU, like your A6. Hence, many people look at the FM2+ socket as an APU socket, and as such refer to "the best FM2+ CPU" as the best APU, to be used as APU, with no other GPU  

The Athlons 8XXK are essentially the same CPUs as the A10s, but without the iGPU. Lacking the iGPU makes them cheaper, even if some Athlons are better than some A10s cpu-wise.

 

Now, since you are asking precisely because you got a discrete GPU, you are safe focusing on Athlons only, you'll save money without sacrificing performance.

This is a response way better than I needed, and I loved it.
Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the "A" CPUs and the Athlons, I'll go with the 880K then, I can resell my current APU and with a little more I can get the 880K.

Another question, since the Athlons have no integrated graphics, if I plug and HDMI cable from the motherboard, that wouldnt post? You depend completely on the GPU for everything?

[silverjay928]

860k that's what I'm running at the moment

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 minutes ago, Hoshimon said:

This is a response way better than I needed, and I loved it.
Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the "A" CPUs and the Athlons, I'll go with the 880K then, I can resell my current APU and with a little more I can get the 880K.
 

De nada, po! 

 

3 minutes ago, Hoshimon said:

Another question, since the Athlons have no integrated graphics, if I plug and HDMI cable from the motherboard, that wouldnt post? You depend completely on the GPU for everything?

Yes. The PC will "POST", and it will work fine, but you won't be able to see anything through the motherboard ports, only through the GPU. If it reaches the windows logon screen, you could control it remotely from another computer, but you depend on the GPU to see anything directly in a monitor.

If your GPU fails, or if the PC won't start and you want to find out if it's because of the GPU, you would need to plug a different GPU, or put back an APU, to be able to see what's going on. Although it is still probably cheaper to sell your A6 and then buy the cheapest GPU in the universe if and when you actually need it.

[Hoshimon]

2 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

De nada, po! 

 

Yes. The PC will "POST", and it will work fine, but you won't be able to see anything through the motherboard ports, only through the GPU. If it reaches the windows logon screen, you could control it remotely from another computer, but you depend on the GPU to see anything directly in a monitor.

If your GPU fails, or if the PC won't start and you want to find out if it's because of the GPU, you would need to plug a different GPU, or put back an APU, to be able to see what's going on. Although it is still probably cheaper to sell your A6 and then buy the cheapest GPU in the universe if and when you actually need it.

Thanks! I feel like I'll do that.
And since I'm really afraid of doing things like overclocking and modifying things to my GPU and CPU I hardly see those dying.

Also... "De nada, po! ", are you by any means, chilean?  (or latin?)

[SpaceGhostC2C]

3 minutes ago, Hoshimon said:

Thanks! I feel like I'll do that.
And since I'm really afraid of doing things like overclocking and modifying things to my GPU and CPU I hardly see those dying.

Also... "De nada, po! ", are you by any means, chilean?  (or latin?)

Going offtopic, but yes, from across the Andes  Living much farther now, though 

[Hoshimon]

1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Going offtopic, but yes, from across the Andes  Living much farther now, though 

Sorry for being off topic, but thanks for answering my questions!