Building a new pc

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, Scronic said:

the 

Gigabyte RX470G1-GAMING-4GD 4GB RX 470 G1 GAMING PCI-E VGA Card

fits really well in my budget but is it a good card?

 

pretty good gpu, should play your games in 1080p ultra. btw, use the quote button when you wanna reply, its the button pointing left.

[Scronic]

Just now, Castdeath97 said:

If you can afford it why not get the Xeon, it will help in case you need the extra threads.

 

 

Wouldnt that meant i would need to spend extra for the Motherboard

[frunze]

7 minutes ago, Verrierr said:

Depending on your workload spending half of your budget on a GPU might not be such a bad choice. By the way what's your current GPU? Maybe you could upgrade your mobo and CPU, while still using your old GPU and then upgrade also that.

 

Price per performance maybe?

be advised, I'm not the OP, ask that to the OP

 

Just now, Castdeath97 said:

If you can afford it why not get the Xeon, it will help in case you need the extra threads.

 

 

he want CPU & board that overclockable. xeon is not a good option.

[Scronic]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

pretty good gpu, should play your games in 1080p ultra. btw, use the quote button when you wanna reply, its the button pointing left.

Will do thanks, also Should i stick with intel cpu or AMD?

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Scronic said:

Wouldnt that meant i would need to spend extra for the Motherboard

nope, for a haswell xeon any motherboard will work.

1 minute ago, frunze said:

 

 

he want CPU & board that overclockable. xeon is not a good option.

LOL. he did say that he is doing game design, and that xeon will do much better at it than some i5 with overclocking. also, it'll break his budget. trust me, i've already checked.

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, Scronic said:

Will do thanks, also Should i stick with intel cpu or AMD?

intel, if you want AMD then you'll have to wait till at least febuary for their new ZEN cpus.

[Castdeath97]

Just now, Scronic said:

Wouldnt that meant i would need to spend extra for the Motherboard

No, the listed Xeon CPU will work with that H81 board, the

 

1 minute ago, frunze said:

be advised, I'm not the OP, ask that to the OP

 

he want CPU & board that overclockable. xeon is not a good option.

Just because he wants it doesn't mean it's the sensible choice. CPU Overclocking at this price point will take away the budget for a cooler, a Z170 board and a K CPU. Something that's hard to fit at this price point without sacrificing somewhere.

[Scronic]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

nope, for a haswell xeon any motherboard will work.

LOL. he did say that he is doing game design, and that xeon will do much better at it than some i5 with overclocking. also, it'll break his budget. trust me, i've already checked.

Sorry for my mispell :P, also could you link me to the haswell xeon?

[flamingduckee]

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060/3439vs3639

980ti is better ,but 1060 is 50% cheaper.

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Scronic said:

Sorry for my mispell :P, also could you link me to the haswell xeon?

the partslist i sent you already has the link to it, its in the name. press one of the retailers to take a look. if you're looking for specs, then http://ark.intel.com/products/80910/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1231-v3-8M-Cache-3_40-GHz

[Scronic]

I will not be overclocking my cpu any time soon and by the time i need to ill have enough money for another cpu but thats in the future so for now in my case, ill get a cpu but i wont overclock so i dont break my budget 

[Scronic]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

the partslist i sent you already has the link to it, its in the name. press one of the retailers to take a look. if you're looking for specs, then http://ark.intel.com/products/80910/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1231-v3-8M-Cache-3_40-GHz

Thats a very very good price, but would this cpu be better? http://www.msy.com.au/cpu/16090-intel-bx80662i56500-core-i5-6500-32ghz-6mb-lga1151-skylake-boxed-cpu.html

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Scronic said:

Thats a very very good price, but would this cpu be better? http://www.msy.com.au/cpu/16090-intel-bx80662i56500-core-i5-6500-32ghz-6mb-lga1151-skylake-boxed-cpu.html

the xeon will do better since you're doing games design.

[frunze]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

nope, for a haswell xeon any motherboard will work.

LOL. he did say that he is doing game design, and that xeon will do much better at it than some i5 with overclocking. also, it'll break his budget. trust me, i've already checked.

 

2 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

No, the listed Xeon CPU will work with that H81 board, the

 

Just because he wants it doesn't mean it's the sensible choice. CPU Overclocking at this price point will take away the budget for a cooler, a Z170 board and a K CPU. Something that's hard to fit at this price point without sacrificing somewhere.

I already said back then, that $780 in terms of overclocking, wouldn't yield any choice for the OP. Please read my earlier post 

Everything goes back to the OP then. If he leave the OC option behind, then it's all good. Can even bought himself a decent C236 + Xeon & 1060.

[Scronic]

Would i be better of sticking with 1150 or 1151 mother bored?, i think the performance would be alot worse on the 1150 wouldnt it?

 

[Scronic]

http://www.msy.com.au/pc-components/15976-gskill-ripjaws-v-f4-2133c15d-8gvr-red-8gb-kit-4gx2-ddr4-2133-desktop-ram.html

 

http://www.msy.com.au/cpu/16090-intel-bx80662i56500-core-i5-6500-32ghz-6mb-lga1151-skylake-boxed-cpu.html

 

http://www.msy.com.au/pc-components/17066--asrock-h110m-dgs-intel-h110-s1151-2xddr4-1xpciex16-dvi-usb30-microatx-motherboard.html

 

http://www.msy.com.au/pc-components/17495-msi-gtx-1060-gaming-x-3g-3g-gtx-1060-gaming-x-pci-e-vga-card.html

 

Bit of a downgrade on the cpu side but upgrade on the gpu side, Does this look any better?

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, frunze said:

 

I already said back then, that $780 in terms of overclocking, wouldn't yield any choice for the OP. Please read my earlier post 

Everything goes back to the OP then. If he leave the OC option behind, then it's all good. Can even bought himself a decent C236 + Xeon & 1060.

 

1 minute ago, Scronic said:

i also do game design using unreal engine 

he is doing games design, which will do better on an xeon than that i5 6600k.

[frunze]

1 minute ago, Scronic said:

Would i be better of sticking with 1150 or 1151 mother bored?, i think the performance would be alot worse on the 1150 wouldnt it?

 

Then, I would ask, which one is your main priority? Gaming on the higher settings, or doing a smooth game design? Because your current budget cannot cover all of the things that you want. At least pick one priority, and then go for the most suitable hardware for that 

Anyway, your current PC is a consumer grade i5 650, how's your game design experience with that processor?

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, Scronic said:

Would i be better of sticking with 1150 or 1151 mother bored?, i think the performance would be alot worse on the 1150 wouldnt it?

 

stick with the xeon, the performance difference between haswell and skylake is very minor, and the threads help in games design. and the gtx 1060 3gb has too low Vram, don't get it.

[Scronic]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

stick with the xeon, the performance difference between haswell and skylake is very minor, and the threads help in games design. and the gtx 1060 3gb has too low Vram, don't get it.

Would 4G, do well and that haswel xeon product will bump my budget to around mid 800

[Scronic]

1 minute ago, frunze said:

Then, I would ask, which one is your main priority? Gaming on the higher settings, or doing a smooth game design? Because your current budget cannot cover all of the things that you want. At least pick one priority, and then go for the most suitable hardware for that 

Anyway, your current PC is a consumer grade i5 650, how's your game design experience with that processor?

Not to well actually ive stopped recently but it jitters freezes and isnt to well it over heats way to fast and just doesnt seem to work to well and its not my gpu ive tested 

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Scronic said:

Would 4G, do well and that haswel xeon product will bump my budget to around mid 800

it's less likely to end up with stuttering due to lack of vram, so it'll do better in that aspect. if you can't spend the extra, get the ram later and/or change the GPU to an rx 470 reference model and sell off your old mobo+cpu+gpu.

[Scronic]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

stick with the xeon, the performance difference between haswell and skylake is very minor, and the threads help in games design. and the gtx 1060 3gb has too low Vram, don't get it.

 

I can bump my budget up 6 bucks and get this beasty looking thing what do you think? 

 

http://www.msy.com.au/pc-components/17302--gainward-gw-gtx1060-6g-3712-6gb-gtx-1060-pci-e-vga-card.html

[Scronic]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

it's less likely to end up with stuttering due to lack of vram, so it'll do better in that aspect. if you can't spend the extra, get the ram later and/or change the GPU to an rx 470 reference model and sell off your old mobo+cpu+gpu.

Yeah as soon as i order my parts im selling those hoping to get around just 100 since there old and in that case ill be able to borrow some ram of my mate for a bit then buy some later that might just work

[frunze]

2 minutes ago, Scronic said:

Not to well actually ive stopped recently but it jitters freezes and isnt to well it over heats way to fast and just doesnt seem to work to well and its not my gpu ive tested 

agree with mcpootis, stick with haswell xeon since the board itself have dropped in price, so you could maximize the budget on processor & gpu.
still choose the RX480 tho, relatively lower price, more VRAM