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19 minutes ago, Ernest_L said:

How many times have you charged your phone and used the earpiece at the same time? I assume you would do that every once in a while. With the lightning earbuds you can only charge your phone or use your earbuds

Yeah, but that is how apple wants to do this, it is stupid IMO in every single way, but at least they give you a adaptor so you can use normal headphones with it. This is the MacBook 12 all over again xD 

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5 hours ago, Dredgy said:

People need to realise Apple don't sell products. They sell an experience. That's their whole thing. That's why you pay more.

 

I've always used the analogy of a restaurant here - people will happily pay $20 for a steak. They won't pay $50. What they will pay though, is $100, $200 or more for a great experience. The difference between a restaurant that sells a steak for $20 and a restaurant that sells the same steak for $50 is experience - your paying for ambience, music, a good time with your friends, where your water glass never runs empty and you don't have to ask for anything. 

Yeah except in this instance I'm paying a premium to make compromises. If I'm paying $900 for a device that I'm going to carry with me all day every day for the next 12-18 months I'm not making a compromise so Apple can make some more money licensing out Adapters and Siri compatible wireless headphones. I understand that they claim it solves some engineering problems for them, and honestly that is probably true. At the same time though this move is really not friendly to customers in any way. Either I can use an adapter, which as others have already pointed out, will likely be about as durable as a lighting cable (not very) and also doesn't allow for charging at the same time. This is a very common use case. In your car, at your desk etc. I use my phone in this way every single day.

 

This type of move has worked out for Apple in the past, and it probably will this time. Doesn't mean that I like it. At the end of the day Apple fanboys will buy the phone, and probably the Airbuds too. But for me the new iphone doesn't fit my daily use case. I use headphones with my device a lot, and I also need to be able to charge my phone throughout the day. Without carrying around yet another adapter.  I'm not going to carry around an adapter to use my existing headphone collection just so that Apple can engineer a solution to problems I don't have. 

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I don't know how they will sound, but I really do not want to drop $160 for headphones that look exactly like the ones that come free with the phone. The way they look exactly like Earpods minus the wires really makes them feel like they're a half-assed afterthought...or that they were actually initially designed to come free with the phone, but the accountants said "no".

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2 minutes ago, Magnetorheological said:

I don't know how they will sound, but I really do not want to drop $160 for headphones that look exactly like the ones that come free with the phone. The was they look exactly like Earpods minus the wires really makes them feel like they're a half-assed afterthought...or that they were actually initially designed to come free with the phone, but the accountants said "no".

It would also probably be difficult to have any decently acceptable mic on something that didn't have that shape/design. 

 

As far as I'm aware, the other truly wireless earbuds don't have mics (at least a mic isn't written ANYWHERE on the product pages). 

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