Why Is Intel's Enthusiast Platform Always Behind?

[Dash Lambda]

I've wondered this before, but I'm just now asking. Does anybody know exactly why Intel usually keeps its enthusiast platform an architecture behind (roughly)?

It doesn't make much sense, since it's for the people who'll pay a premium for the best components...

[catzambia]

It's all about profit for Intel. I'm sure it benefits them in some way.

[Electronics Wizardy]

The socket is designed for 2 and 4 socket servers, not desktops. Its so they can test the platform and architecture more. Also things like power consumption and a few extra features don't affect the server much.

 

Think of lga 115x as a beta for 2011v3. Not much of there market is using 115x compared to 2011(millions of servers)

[Dash Lambda]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

The socket is designed for 2 and 4 socket servers, not desktops. Its so they can test the platform and architecture more. Also things like power consumption and a few extra features don't affect the server much.

 

Think of lga 115x as a beta for 2011v3. Not much of there market is using 115x compared to 2011(millions of servers)

That makes... More sense.

[Guest]

Because Intel!

Monopoly!

[Cyracus]

I'd say last gen because all the improvements have been worked out so they can deliver better

[ARikozuM]

Because AMD hasn't made anything comparable? Just kidding.

I think the reason is because the architecture can be made better by getting a LOT of data from enthusiast consumers (randomness) vs most servers where they are tested for compatibility and don't usually run into errors.

[Dash Lambda]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

Because AMD hasn't made anything comparable? Just kidding.

I think the reason is because the architecture can be made better by getting a LOT of data from enthusiast consumers (randomness) vs most servers where they are tested for compatibility and don't usually run into errors.

But then I wonder how much they actually change the architecture for the enthusiast platform...

I was under the impression that it was the same cores, but I may be wrong.

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Dash Lambda said:

But then I wonder how much they actually change the architecture for the enthusiast platform...

I was under the impression that it was the same cores, but I may be wrong.

They are but I'm thinking instruction sets. This is all opinion by the way.

[Tic-Tac]

That whole term "Enthusiast" for X99 is pretty stupid. You can call "Enthusiast" Skylake i7 6700K, for me THAT IS enthusiast platform and not a consumer one. Semi-Professional and Professional platforms are X99, C602, C604 and they ARE NOT BEHIND in those scenarios that they are build for. That's it.

[Raja_ASUS]

6 hours ago, Dash Lambda said:

I've wondered this before, but I'm just now asking. Does anybody know exactly why Intel usually keeps its enthusiast platform an architecture behind (roughly)?

It doesn't make much sense, since it's for the people who'll pay a premium for the best components...

 

I asked them directly:

 

http://traffic.libsyn.com/asuspodcast/ASUS_Straight_Edge_Podcast_Episode_3.mp3

 

Asked/answered at 13:30~15:40

[done12many2]

1 hour ago, Raja_ASUS said:

I asked them directly:

 

http://traffic.libsyn.com/asuspodcast/ASUS_Straight_Edge_Podcast_Episode_3.mp3

 

Asked/answered at 13:30~15:40

 

Raja, good to see you on LTT.  

[rockon5622]

On 7/24/2016 at 10:38 PM, Cyracus said:

I'd say last gen because all the improvements have been worked out so they can deliver better

Not exactly. Alot more goes into those chips than people think.

[The Elder Smurf]

It's all return on investment. The longer they can keep a product in the top spot the more return they get. So for example, haswell first had its laptop series. It was the best mobile cpu intel had. Then they came out with desktop haswell to further expand sales of haswell based chips. And then broadwell mobile cpus came to replace the haswell mobile cpus. But now there is another area for haswell to spread to, the server platform. And everytime a new server arch comes out, an enthusiasts line comes, hence why by the time they get the enthusiasts line out, it falls in the next gen name scheme,  like the 5000 series was broadwell and haswell e, and the 6000 series is skylake and broadwell e.