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fx-8350 vs i7-6700k bottle necking gtx 960

I just upgraded from the fx-8350 to the i7-6700k. I have a gtx 960 4gb card in my system. when I played GTAV, the little bar of vram on the screen filled up very fast. now, with the i7, everything is pretty much maxed out and the vram is only about 1/2 of the way to 3/4 of the way filled up according to the game. Is this a sign that my 8350 was bottle necking the 960? 

 

edit: also, everything is (almost) maxed out and i get 60fps (i am currently down to a 1440x900 monitor :(

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Not really - the ingame meter in GTA V isn't accurate.

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Not really - the ingame meter in GTA V isn't accurate.

Yeah did they even fix the problem where SLI and CF show 2x the VRAM of a single card?

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6 minutes ago, Hogger said:

I just upgraded from the fx-8350 to the i7-6700k. I have a gtx 960 4gb card in my system. when I played GTAV, the little bar of vram on the screen filled up very fast. now, with the i7, everything is pretty much maxed out and the vram is only about 1/2 of the way to 3/4 of the way filled up according to the game. Is this a sign that my 8350 was bottle necking the 960? 

so how can you tell whats bottle necking what? I never really understood bottle necking completely  

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2 minutes ago, LizardsAreOP said:

Yeah did they even fix the problem where SLI and CF show 2x the VRAM of a single card?

nope

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1 minute ago, Hogger said:

so how can you tell whats bottle necking what? I never really understood bottle necking completely  

In GTA V an 8350 cannot bottleneck a 960. Bottlenecking is when your CPU is at 100% but your GPU is not

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

nope

Yeah they probably never will -_-

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

In GTA V an 8350 cannot bottleneck a 960. Bottlenecking is when your CPU is at 100% but your GPU is not

GOTCHA! no one ever explained it like that. thank you

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3 minutes ago, Hogger said:

so how can you tell whats bottle necking what? I never really understood bottle necking completely  

Simply ask the community its a tricky topic and just make a thread like "Whats a bottleneck?" or watch a video

 

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15 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

In GTA V an 8350 cannot bottleneck a 960. Bottlenecking is when your CPU is at 100% but your GPU is not

That's not how PC bottlenecking works.

A CPU does NOT need to be at 100% to get reduced performance.

 

The entire word "bottlenecking" is almost always wrong, because both the CPU and the GPU contribute to performance.

Aka a 6700k+750ti will perform better than a 8350+750ti

Or a pentium + 980ti will perform better than a pentium + 970

 

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You can see the CPU is no where near 100% but is still reducing performance.

 

btw this was done on a 970 (pretty close to 960)

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2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

That's not how PC bottlenecking works.

A CPU does NOT need to be at 100% to get reduced performance.

 

The entire word "bottlenecking" is almost always wrong, because both the CPU and the GPU contribute to performance.

Aka a 6700k+750ti will perform better than a 8350+750ti

Or a pentium + 980ti will perform better than a pentium + 970

 

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You can see the CPU is no where near 100% but is still reducing performance.

 

btw this was done on a 970 (pretty close to 960)

970 is over 40% faster than a 960. Not sure what that proves.

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6 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

970 is over 40% faster than a 960. Not sure what that proves.

If you try looking at the image, you might see the GPU at 100%, the CPU at about 60-80% depending on which you look at, and the fact that the fps is lower on the 3570k and 6300.

So basically, you don't understand how "bottlenecking" in terms of PC performance works.

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

If you try looking at the image, you might see the GPU at 100%, the CPU at about 60-80% depending on which you look at, and the fact that the fps is lower on the 3570k and 6300.

So basically, you don't understand how "bottlenecking" in terms of PC performance works.

That picture shows the 970 at "104% usage"  - how is that even possible? :D

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5 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

That picture shows the 970 at "104% usage"  - how is that even possible? :D

That's 104% power usage (because they increased the power limit to 107 or whatever the max is)

The usage is to the right of the temperature

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12 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

970 is over 40% faster than a 960. Not sure what that proves.

So what I am seeing is that everything BUT the CPU was the same ? That is pretty cool actually. What a boost you got from going fx to i5. I have a 8320 myself and while it works, I know it is a bottleneck in some games with my 980. 

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