Do I need a 2nd PSU?

[OddsCrazyStuff]

So I'm about to build in this beast: http://www.performance-pcs.com/phobya-wacoolt-cube-1-medium-watercase-black-aluminium-edition.html

 

My original plan was to use a power splitter and my 2000W PSU:

http://www.phanteks.com/PH-PWSPR.html

http://www.super-flower.com.tw/products_detail.php?class=2&sn=16&ID=119

 

But with a 5930K that can draw up to 200W and a 120W 14 core Xeon, so do I wonder if the splitter can handle it.

Not to mention, I have no idea how to count motherboard watt. I plan on making full use of both motherboards, so lots of storage and add in cards.

[Clanscorpia]

You won't need a second one

[OddsCrazyStuff]

17 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

You won't need a second one

Thats what I'm hoping, but its hard to figure out if I'm over or under when I dont know how to calculate stuff on the motherboard.

[Mr.Meerkat]

6 minutes ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Thats what I'm hoping, but its hard to figure out if I'm over or under when I dont know how to calculate stuff on the motherboard.

Is it possible for us to know the GPUs you're gonna be using? 

[OddsCrazyStuff]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Is it possible for us to know the GPUs you're gonna be using? 

A Titan Black and 2x 980Ti is planned right now.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

A Titan Black and 2x 980Ti is planned right now.

Should be plenty I would say. For the CPUs, they would be drawing 320Watts in total (not peak power consumption however) with the 980tis OCed and drawing 400 watts each and 300 watts for the titan black, for the GPUs and CPUs alone, it would draw roughly 1420Watts~ which means that you still have almost 600 watts to play with for drives and watercooling loops and what ever so I would say it should be fine  

[OddsCrazyStuff]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Should be plenty I would say. For the CPUs, they would be drawing 320Watts in total (not peak power consumption however) with the 980tis OCed and drawing 400 watts each and 300 watts for the titan black, for the GPUs and CPUs alone, it would draw roughly 1420Watts~ which means that you still have almost 600 watts to play with for drives and watercooling loops and what ever so I would say it should be fine  

The problem is that on motherboard stuff like ram, m.2 and so on, counts as well, but not sure where.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

The problem is that on motherboard stuff like ram, m.2 and so on, counts as well, but not sure where.

a motherboard and that tops draws like 100Watts combined (I would say) for one set of motherboard, ram and what ever so 1620watts total right now so still almost 400watts which isn't the most once you slap a few HDDs but should be doable  

[OddsCrazyStuff]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

a motherboard and that tops draws like 100Watts combined (I would say) for one set of motherboard, ram and what ever so 1620watts total right now so still almost 400watts which isn't the most once you slap a few HDDs but should be doable  

Wont the ram and such go through the splitter, since its on the motherboard?

[Mr.Meerkat]

2 minutes ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Wont the ram and such go through the splitter, since its on the motherboard?

Yah but what I thought is that as long as the wires can handle the output requested by both boards and the PSU 12 volt rail is able to support the power requested then it should be fine no?

[OddsCrazyStuff]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Yah but what I thought is that as long as the wires can handle the output requested by both boards and the PSU 12 volt rail is able to support the power requested then it should be fine no?

Gaming pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/X99-M-WSSE/

Streaming/video pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99E_WSUSB_31/

2 GPU, 1 M.2, 8 sata for gaming. 1 GPU, 1 M.2, 8/10 sata, 5-6 PCI SSDs (think the motherboard fills from the bottom).

A few usb deviced and dual network for both.

 

I'm still inside or way outside?

[Mr.Meerkat]

6 minutes ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Gaming pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/X99-M-WSSE/

Streaming/video pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99E_WSUSB_31/

2 GPU, 1 M.2, 8 sata for gaming. 1 GPU, 1 M.2, 8/10 sata, 5-6 PCI SSDs (think the motherboard fills from the bottom).

A few usb deviced and dual network for both.

 

I'm still inside or way outside?

Tempted to say you may be outside as you have like 16-18 hard drives, an ass metric ton of PCIe SSDs...yeah, I guess you could always be safe than having a very expensive PC/PCs blow up (it won't, OCP should kick in before that happens) 

[OddsCrazyStuff]

6 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Tempted to say you may be outside as you have like 16-18 hard drives, an ass metric ton of PCIe SSDs...yeah, I guess you could always be safe than having a very expensive PC/PCs blow up (it won't, OCP should kick in before that happens) 

How big do you think the 2nd PSU has to be?

It should only be needed to power the CPU and motherboard, as the 2000W will handle the rest. Unless some more molex or sata is needed.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

How big do you think the 2nd PSU has to be?

It should only be needed to power the CPU and motherboard, as the 2000W will handle the rest.

I think we should ask probably the most knowledgeable PSU guy on this forum  bring it on @STRMfrmXMN

[STRMfrmXMN]

50 minutes ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

A Titan Black and 2x 980Ti is planned right now.

One 1200W PSU sounds like a safe choice for you. The Cooler Master V1200 and Seasonic X-series should satisfy.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

One 1200W PSU sounds like a safe choice for you. The Cooler Master V1200 and Seasonic X-series should satisfy.

Do I really need 1200W, when the 2000W can handle everything but the 2nd CPU and 2nd motherboard?

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Do I really need 1200W, when the 2000W can handle everything but the 2nd CPU and 2nd motherboard?

A 2000W can power 6 Titans without trouble. I think you'll be fine using one 2000W PSU for everything if that's what you're concerned about.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

A 2000W can power 6 Titans without trouble. I think you'll be fine using one 2000W PSU for everything if that's what you're concerned about.

Its the splitter I'm worried about.

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 minutes ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Its the splitter I'm worried about.

Gotcha. According to Phanteks specsheet on it it can only output 452W to both systems not counting GPU power consumption. Maybe just get two separate PSUs, a 550W one for the single 980ti system and an 850W for the dual Titan system.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Gotcha. According to Phanteks specsheet on it it can only output 452W to both systems not counting GPU power consumption. Maybe just get two separate PSUs, a 550W one for the single 980ti system and an 850W for the dual Titan system.

Gaming pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/X99-M-WSSE/

Streaming/video pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99E_WSUSB_31/

2 GPU, 1 M.2, 8 sata for gaming. 1 GPU, 1 M.2, 8/10 sata, 5-6 PCI SSDs (think the motherboard fills from the bottom).

A few usb deviced and dual network for both.

 

Or something along those lines, when I'm done building some time next year.

Also, I already own the 2000W, so it will be used.

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Gaming pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/X99-M-WSSE/

Streaming/video pc motherboard: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99E_WSUSB_31/

2 GPU, 1 M.2, 8 sata for gaming. 1 GPU, 1 M.2, 8/10 sata, 5-6 PCI SSDs (think the motherboard fills from the bottom).

A few usb deviced and dual network for both.

 

Or something along those lines, when I'm done building some time next year.

Also, I already own the 2000W, so it will be used.

OK, use the 2000W one on the one with the heftiest power consumption then use a different PSU for the one that uses the least.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

OK, use the 2000W one on the one with the heftiest power consumption then use a different PSU for the one that uses the least.

Will a 550W be enough, if it powers just the 2nd CPU and 2nd motherboard or do I need 850W?

850W: https://www.super-flower.com.tw/products_detail.php?class=2&sn=17&ID=100

500W: http://www.super-flower.com.tw/products_detail.php?class=2&sn=1&ID=73

 

[STRMfrmXMN]

4 minutes ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Will a 550W be enough, if it powers just the 2nd CPU and 2nd motherboard or do I need 850W?

850W: https://www.super-flower.com.tw/products_detail.php?class=2&sn=17&ID=100

500W: http://www.super-flower.com.tw/products_detail.php?class=2&sn=1&ID=73

 

550W can power two CPUs if that's what you mean. Still not quite sure what contraption you appear to be putting together though? 

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

550W can power two CPUs if that's what you mean. Still not quite sure what contraption you appear to be putting together though? 

he's wanting a gaming rig and a editing/rendering rig in the same case (hence the amount of hard drives and ssds) and he's worried that either the PSU is unable to deliver power or the splitter isn't good enough to handle the power requirements of both CPUs and motherboards including the other stuff connected to the motherboard.

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

he's wanting a gaming rig and a editing/rendering rig in the same case (hence the amount of hard drives and ssds) and he's worried that either the PSU is unable to deliver power or the splitter isn't good enough to handle the power requirements of both CPUs and motherboards including the other stuff connected to the motherboard.

OK, well 2000W can easily power everything, he can also use the 2000W on one more power hungry system and a lesser PSU for the lesser system, and the splitter cannot split that much power, no.