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Hello!

 

This is my first post (and I have read the guides on posting here but please feel free to mention anything I might have missed).

 

Here is the parts list for my PC:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QL7WZ8

 

Pretax $CAD = $2170

 

Budget & Location

I'm here in Toronto Canada. My budget is keeping it under $3000 (but thats before monitors or anything but the computer itself)

 

Aim

I want a blazing fast gaming PC. I, sadly, have one of those over priced mac pro 2013 models (with the d700 video cards) and it barely keeps up with even low end gaming rigs these days. Also, I bought $1,000 benQ monitor which supports freesync only after to realize that the mac pro doesn't support freesync. Heck, it barely updates its driver which causes huge issues. I can't even use the crossfire.


So I am aiming to build my ultimate gaming rig to play games on ultra settings at 1440p. I might turn it into SLI and get a 4k gaming monitor later but this is a 1440P monitor.

 

I will be overlocking to the max (hopefully up to 4.9 maybe even 5 ghz if I can).

 

Monitor

Later I plan on getting the Ultra Wide Acer Predator and using the Gsync, but for now I'll be sticking with the benQ 1440p monitor I have and forgoing the Gsync.

 

Peripherals

I already have all these so I'm good!

 

Why am I upgrading?

As mentioned my mac pro doesn't cut it with gaming and I want to play games on ultra with 60-100FPS. My favorite games I am building for are:
-Total War Attilla
-Civ 5
-Paradox games
-Far Cry Primal

 

If you have any suggestions where I might squeeze out better performance for my money or save money and keep the same performance I'm all ears. I'm most struggling with the motherboard. I did a lot of research and I know I have a chipset compatible motherboard but I dont know what FPS gains or losses I am facing with my current choice.


Any and all advice is more than welcome. Thank you!

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Your CPU is unlocked, this means it is good to overclock but your CU cooler chosen (while amazing) just won't handle overclocking. Look at getting either an AIO liquid cooler (maybe even a custom loop at your budget).

Custom loops do not have to be expensive, IE my custom loop (incl GPU)  was $100 for EVERYTHING by using car engine hosing and 12V fountain pump.

For best price/performance I would wait until some proper benchmarks have been released on the RX 480 and maybe wait and see what the 490/490x has to offer.

Your parts list looks good other than that :)


 

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Looking at your requirements, the build I'm recommending will be enough for 1440p gaming.

The R9 390X is on a big sale at NCIX. And you'll be able to utilize FreeSync too.

Taxes are included in price.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($287.30 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($73.43 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($51.17 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.78 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card  ($497.18 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($61.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($94.72 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1133.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Aggressor said:

Yes I was debating the liquid cooling or not. Someone told me I didn't but its good to have a second opinion. So I was thinking of getting the  Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

That is a great AIO cooler for the money, go for it if you don't feel comfortable building your own loop. :P

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Click here for my Microphone and Interface guide, tips and recommendations
 

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or, if you don't want the added noise and failure points from an AIO, look at something like the Noctua NH-D15 or Cryorig R1 Universal

Snorlax: i7 5820k @4.5ghz, Asus X99 Pro, 32gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, Cryorig R1 Ultimate, Samsung 850 evo 500gb, Asus GTX 1080 ROG Strix, Corsair RM850x, NZXT H440, Hue+

Smallsnor: Huawei Matebook X

 

Canon AE-1 w/ 50mm f/1.8 lens

Pentax KM w/ 55mm f/1.8 SMC lens

Zenit-E w/ 58mm f/2 Helios lens

Panasonic G7 with 14-42mm f/3.5 lens

Polaroid Spectra System

 

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This makes my mouth water. Thats such a good price.

 

Why the i5 -6500? I did a lot of research and the 6600 and 6700 seemed the best bang for the buck?

 

For storage I'll still go with the SSD (I hate load times haha).

 

But ya you've got a really good bare bones system here. It's really giving me pause for thought.

 

I was going to wait for sales (see if I could hold off till black friday) but this is a sexy build list. Are there any benchmarks you know of for a rig close to this?

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@shahnewaz

 

I have been tempted to wait for the AMD cards as that could let me use my benQ monitor and save me even more.

 

But all the gtx 1080 hype is getting to me haha. But I will be waiting as long as I can. Your list didnt help the waiting haha

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1 minute ago, Aggressor said:

@shahnewaz

 

I have been tempted to wait for the AMD cards as that could let me use my benQ monitor and save me even more.

 

But all the gtx 1080 hype is getting to me haha. But I will be waiting as long as I can. Your list didnt help the waiting haha

The R9 390X is no slouch either, and it's $220 off! If you cannot wait, this would be a steal. Get it.

 

If you can wait, then wait. It's all the better if you wait. ;)

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($304.98 @ DirectCanada) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($152.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 11.1g Thermal Paste  ($40.17 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($195.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($94.09 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($419.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($117.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($900.00) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($131.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($209.99 @ NCIX) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($84.98 @ NCIX) 
Total: $2780.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 22:54 EDT-0400

 

Reson for changing the:

12 minutes ago, Aggressor said:

I want a blazing fast gaming PC

  • CPU: Why you would put a i7 instead of i5 as you said. You never mention about video editing. So better i5. you will never use the hyperthreading. so it a waste buying a i7

  • CPU cooler. if you choose a K processor i bet you will overclock so i put the AIO liquid cooler Corsair H115I for a lowest temp.

  • Added the best thermal paste on the market the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. no ones can beat this thermal paste. is the best of the best.

  • added M.2 950 PRO since you want a "blazing fast gaming PC" for get 2GB/s of transfer data + a hybrid 2TB drive disk for storage

  • Changed to EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB SC ACX 3.0 video card. EVGA is one of the best video card manufacturer on the Nvidia side.

  • Changed the case for the Enthoo pro for better airflow and better temps, also it got more space for radiator/case fans.

  • Changed the PSU for the EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum. it's more safer and better unit, also got more efficiency.

  • Keyboard: The corsair K70 Rapidfire use the new Cherry MX speed for 40% faster pressing than averange mechanical keyboard

  • Mouse: The G502 is the best wired mouse on the maket it have the best sensor for a deadly accurate aiming in FPS. and have fast response times.

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1 minute ago, Shahnewaz said:

The R9 390X is no slouch either, and it's $220 off! If you cannot wait, this would be a steal. Get it.

 

If you can wait, then wait. It's all the better if you wait. ;)

Why the 6500 over the 6600 though? The 6600 seems better for the same price?

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2 minutes ago, Antony Leung said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($304.98 @ DirectCanada) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($152.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 11.1g Thermal Paste  ($40.17 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($195.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($94.09 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($419.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($117.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($900.00) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($131.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($209.99 @ NCIX) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($84.98 @ NCIX) 
Total: $2780.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 22:54 EDT-0400

 

Reson for changing the:

  • CPU: Why you would put a i7 instead of i5 as you said. You never mention about video editing. So better i5. you will never use the hyperthreading. so it a waste buying a i7

  • CPU cooler. if you choose a K processor i bet you will overclock so i put the AIO liquid cooler Corsair H115I for a lowest temp.

  • Added the best thermal paste on the market the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. no ones can beat this thermal paste. is the best of the best.

  • added M.2 950 PRO since you want a "blazing fast gaming PC" for get 2GB/s of transfer data + a hybrid 2TB drive disk for storage

  • Changed to EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB SC ACX 3.0 video card. EVGA is one of the best video card manufacturer on the Nvidia side.

  • Changed the case for the Enthoo pro for better airflow and better temps, also it got more space for radiator/case fans.

  • Changed the PSU for the EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum. it's more safer and better unit, also got more efficiency.

  • Keyboard: The corsair K70 Rapidfire use the new Cherry MX speed for 40% faster pressing than averange mechanical keyboard

  • Mouse: The G502 is the best wired mouse on the maket it have the best sensor for a deadly accurate aiming in FPS. and have fast response times.

Oh ya this looks like a real best. 

I agree with your CPU point. I can use my mac pro for video editing if I need that.

 

Good point on the thermal paste!

 

Good storage poins too.

 

Thanks for the EVGA GeForce. I will be looking at benchmarks for that.

 

The case I just threw in there so Im 100% sold on better case suggestions to thank you!

 

I was pinching pennies on the power supply but you raise a good point with the upgrade.

 

Don't need the keyboard or mouse but thanks!

 

Really giving me good food for thought here.

 

This is SO MUCH BETTER than the PCs I used to get my bother to budget build for me when I was younger haha. PC gamers are spoiled :D

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16 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card  ($497.18 @ NCIX)
 

I would say that an r9 390x definitely isn't enough for 1440p. You'll have alot of trouble staying above 60fps at max settings in todays triple a games not to mention ones that are coming in the future. If you're going AMD atleast wait for the RX480 and see how that performs first

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2 minutes ago, Ashid said:

I would say that an r9 390x definitely isn't enough for 1440p. You'll have alot of trouble staying above 60fps at max settings in todays triple a games not to mention ones that are coming in the future. If you're going AMD atleast wait for the RX480 and see how that performs first

Yea esp when the 1070 is cheaper and would crush it

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($137.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($218.72 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($89.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($699.00) 
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Micro Center) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($83.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1823.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 23:31 EDT-0400

What about this? The SSD isn't as fast but it's half the price and you're barely gonna notice the difference in daily usage, changed the psu to an RM850x which can easily deal with 1080 SLI plus overclocks in the future

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To: @Aggressor

I forgot mention about windows prices:

 

I recommend buy the retail version. because this is the version thats not tied to anything and you can install in any PC without a problem.

Link: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01019T6O0

This is more safer than oem keys. it should always work.

 

For OEM. is the version i call it "the one time use" because is tied to the motherboad and re use it is very difficult 

Link. http://www.kinguin.net/category/22175/windows-10-home-oem-key/

WARNING: i link you to a site that have different providers of cheap keys, if you buy from them make sure to but the protection from kinguin because sometimes DOES NOT WORK.

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25 minutes ago, Aggressor said:

Why the 6500 over the 6600 though? The 6600 seems better for the same price?

An extra $25 for a paltry 100MHz speed bump is totally not worth it.

20 minutes ago, Ashid said:

I would say that an r9 390x definitely isn't enough for 1440p. You'll have alot of trouble staying above 60fps at max settings in todays triple a games not to mention ones that are coming in the future. If you're going AMD atleast wait for the RX480 and see how that performs first

Are you sure? I heard the card is good for 1440p gaming. And with DX12 and its 8GB framebuffer, it should do very well in the future.

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

Are you sure? I heard the card is good for 1440p gaming. And with DX12 and its 8GB framebuffer, it should do very well in the future.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_gaming_x_8g_review,20.html

 

If you look at the 1440 graphs here you'll see that the 390x is below 60 in alot of games, like Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Witcher, Far Cry Primal, Battlefield etc

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44 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

Looking at your requirements, the build I'm recommending will be enough for 1440p gaming.

The R9 390X is on a big sale at NCIX. And you'll be able to utilize FreeSync too.

Taxes are included in price.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($287.30 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($73.43 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($51.17 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.78 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card  ($497.18 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($61.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($94.72 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1133.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 22:53 EDT-0400

Im reallyyyy liking this from a price point perspective.

 

Slotting in a RX 480, drops the price by $300.

 

I did change the harddrive to a 500gb SD.

 

Price w/ Tax: $994

 

Considering I was looking a custom NCIX computers in the $3,000 range in December, my fiance won't believe I got a computer budget at under $1k.

 

This made my day xD

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11 minutes ago, Ashid said:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($137.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($218.72 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($89.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($699.00) 
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Micro Center) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($83.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1823.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-08 23:31 EDT-0400

What about this? The SSD isn't as fast but it's half the price and you're barely gonna notice the difference in daily usage, changed the psu to an RM850x which can easily deal with 1080 SLI plus overclocks in the future

Nice!

 

SSD's are something I haven't researched much. I just assumed SSD = fast. Cheapest = best ROI. But if theres that good a price to performance difference its clear I need to do more research!

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1 minute ago, Aggressor said:

@Shahnewaz

 

I was going to do 16GB ram but this http://www.techspot.com/article/1043-8gb-vs-16gb-ram/page3.html shows clearly 8GB is more than enough. Your + the RX 480 looks reallllly attractive now.

 

Under $1k with tax. This is a real beast!

Keep in mind that the motherboard he chose does not support overclocking

 

About the SSD i was refering to the guy that linked the 950 pro which is fast but you're mostly not gonna notice it in daily usage, if you just want cheap go for a Samsung 850 EVO 500gb or something. it's more than enough speed wise and it has pretty nice $ per gb

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15 minutes ago, Aggressor said:

I just assumed SSD = fast

Not all time you need to investigate how fast is write and read speeds, sometimes some SSD are optimized to write over read and viceversa. there's many different types of SSD. Here you can see diffenrent types of SSD:

Spoiler

 

the build i put you it was the best of the best as far as i know, because you say

1 hour ago, Aggressor said:

Budget

My budget is keeping it under $3000

so i build something under $3000 CAD.

 

Keep reseaching. and you will find wat is going to you.

11 minutes ago, Aggressor said:

shows clearly 8GB is more than enough

Dont go mediocre choice. use 16GB. with 8GB is saw my brother having bad performance in google chrome because it eat all ram like is breakfast.

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21 minutes ago, Ashid said:

Keep in mind that the motherboard he chose does not support overclocking

 

About the SSD i was refering to the guy that linked the 950 pro which is fast but you're mostly not gonna notice it in daily usage, if you just want cheap go for a Samsung 850 EVO 500gb or something. it's more than enough speed wise and it has pretty nice $ per gb

How do you know whether a mobo supports overclocking?

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