Xeon vs i5

[PCGuy_5960]

I am thinking of upgrading my PC. Should I buy a used E5-2658 v3 Engineering Sample from eBay or buy a new 4690K. Are engineering samples also overclockable?

The Xeon costs $160 shipped and the i5 costs $240

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I am thinking of upgrading my PC. Should I buy a used E5-2658 v3 Engineering Sample from eBay or buy a new 4690K. Are engineering samples also overclockable?

The Xeon costs $160 shipped and the i5 costs $240

I am going to be using it for gaming and some video editing

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, DEcobra11 said:

Keep in mind that for that Xeon you'd have to buy a 2011-3 mb.

And no, xeons are not meant to be OCed (though via FSB it can be OCed by a little)

Yeah... I am thinking of the AsRock X99 Extreme4... Does it matter that the CPU wasn't on their CPU list?

[LukaP]

1 minute ago, DEcobra11 said:

Keep in mind that for that Xeon you'd have to buy a 2011-3 mb.

And no, xeons are not meant to be OCed (though via FSB it can be OCed by a little)

yes but the difference between prices is 80$. if he has to buy a mobo in any case, the E5 will be a better bet. 
 

@OP if you will only game, get the i5. if you do any other compute intensive things, get the Xeon

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, LukaP said:

yes but the difference between prices is 80$. if he has to buy a mobo in any case, the E5 will be a better bet. 
 

@OP if you will only game, get the i5. if you do any other compute intensive things, get the Xeon

But the Xeon isn't going to be a complete sh!t when it comes to games right?

[LukaP]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

But the Xeon isn't going to be a complete sh!t when it comes to games right?

oh no, definitely not. Imagine it like having a slighltly slower i5, like for example the 4570 or what the entry haswell i5 was. still perfectly capable of gaming fine.

 

Also with the xeon, its good to check whether the mobo youre buying will support it. some need bios updates, and some dont support at all. (and do make sure its working before you buy it)

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, LukaP said:

oh no, definitely not. Imagine it like having a slighltly slower i5, like for example the 4570 or what the entry haswell i5 was. still perfectly capable of gaming fine.

 

Also with the xeon, its good to check whether the mobo youre buying will support it. some need bios updates, and some dont support at all. (and do make sure its working before you buy it)

If it isn't on their CPU support list it won't work?!

[LukaP]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

If it isn't on their CPU support list it won't work?!

not necessarily, usually it does nevertheless. but its better to google something like [your cpu] + [mobo you want] and see if people had any problems

 

[deWaardt]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

If it isn't on their CPU support list it won't work?!

Usually when it isn't on the CPU support list it doesn't work.

Sometimes with some luck it does work anyways, like the 771>775 mod, but if it isn't on the CPU support list and noone else has tried it yet I wouldn't take the bet.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, LukaP said:

not necessarily, usually it does nevertheless. but its better to google something like [your cpu] + [mobo you want] and see if people had any problems

 

OK. Thx

[LukaP]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

OK. Thx

No problem

[Dzzope]

Some video editing and lots of gaming... While the 12 cores are nice and will help the renders fly, I'd personally go for a locked skylake and oc it (with older now pulled bios)

 

But then it's how much editing you do, if you stream twitch and the like and how much in-game performance you need or if you'll miss any of the updated features.

 

End of the day your comparing prices on new modern part with warranty etc vs a used engineering sample too.

[Simon771]

Well Xeon have lower clock usually and can't be OCed.

For gaming it's better to have higher clock + ability to OC it.

 

But for video editing, Xeon might be the best solution.

Again it depends on what CPUs exactly you are comparing.

 

Try using CPUboss and see results in differend types of workloads.

[LukaP]

3 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

Well Xeon have lower clock usually and can't be OCed.

For gaming it's better to have higher clock + ability to OC it.

 

But for video editing, Xeon might be the best solution.

Again it depends on what CPUs exactly you are comparing.

 

Try using CPUboss and see results in differend types of workloads.

CPUBoss is a really superficial way to compare hardware... in many ways its better to ask around and get qualitative answers than relying on cpuboss

[Simon771]

6 hours ago, LukaP said:

CPUBoss is a really superficial way to compare hardware... in many ways its better to ask around and get qualitative answers than relying on cpuboss

That's true, but at CPUboss you can also see benchmarks results from encoding, playing games etc.

It's a good way to start when looking for CPU comparison