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Will 144hz monitor reduce motion sickness?

Seadusc
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I have a friend who can't play most games because of motion sickness. I think that FPS rate and motion blur could cause her this problem so I'm going to recommend her to buy one. Will those gaming monitors help her?

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I'm not sure of myself anymore,lots of people say that even the human eye can't see more than 60 fps

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1 minute ago, Rickie cheong said:

I'm not sure of myself anymore,lots of people say that even the human eye can't see more than 60 fps

That's not true at all. I've experienced 144hz and it's like the whole new world. Actually @LinusTech already proved this too. 

 

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1 minute ago, Seadusc said:

That's not true at all. I've experienced 144hz and it's like the whole new world. Actually @LinusTech already proved this too. 

 

I was about to see that after the 1st one, but thanks anyway

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Anyway,there could be more than one factor than fps,it also could be not so sturdy movement while playing like the screen keeps on jiggling,also it could be long amount of time not moving,the blood will make u dizzy if u did not move for a long time,there are tons more but these are the ones that I'll list for you

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try and find what's causing the motion sickness. 

 

for me it was 1080p! back in the day I bought a 28" 1080p monitor that was the dogs nuts.. I had it a week before it was stuck in my shed never to be used again. 

I reverted back to a 23" and I was fine.. 

long story short I got a 28" 4k monitor and was fine.. even shorter story I now have a 34" ultrawide and again.. nada! 

 

other people it's screen size. not being able to see the edges of the screen cause brain confusion and motion sickness. 

 

in fps games a simple dot on the screen helps no end. dying light without the simple cross hair made me heave! 

 

there's plenty of 3rd party apps to add simple cross hairs, but be warned, competitive games look for overlays and result in bans. (top end acer monitor have built in overlays that aren't detected!) 

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5 hours ago, Rickie cheong said:

I'm not sure of myself anymore,lots of people say that even the human eye can't see more than 60 fps

No just get out.

Go to BestBuy, Fries, MicroCenter wherever. Look at a 60hz monitor then a 144hz monitor. If you can't see or feel the difference you are blind. Even just moving the mouse or scrolling is way smoother. Now 144hz to 165hz ehhh most can't tell the difference. In VR you can though

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14 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

No just get out.

Go to BestBuy, Fries, MicroCenter wherever. Look at a 60hz monitor then a 144hz monitor. If you can't see or feel the difference you are blind. Even just moving the mouse or scrolling is way smoother. Now 144hz to 165hz ehhh most can't tell the difference. In VR you can though

I can't even tell the difference between 45 fps and 60 fps

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11 minutes ago, Rickie cheong said:

I can't even tell the difference between 45 fps and 60 fps

Pls watch in 72060 or 108060 and tell me if you can see a difference

 

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6 hours ago, Seadusc said:

I have a friend who can't play most games because of motion sickness. I think that FPS rate and motion blur could cause her this problem so I'm going to recommend her to buy one. Will those gaming monitors help her?

I think what caused a lot of motion sickness cases for a lot of people was the fact that a lot of displays flicker subtly. CRTs for example only had to constantly refresh. The same is true for a lot of LCDs still, as many up until recently actually used PWM driven LEDs, which if it wasn't on the maximum brightness would pulse light rapidly. Some people are more sensitive to this than others. For example, I get headaches watching movies at a theater because the projector flickers but I never really had a problem with some older monitors because they flickered faster (or so I'd like to believe).

 

Some of it also has to do with the environment. Are the lights flickering as well (i.e., using LEDs or florescent bulbs)? Is the lighting optimal? etc. Simply put, I think there are a lot of environmental factors that contribute to motion sickness before you factor in FPS, refresh rates, and the like. Start working on creating a better viewing environment because ideal is not the same for everyone.

 

Also in my case, after playing around with my 144Hz monitor, I noticed I was getting eyestrain and signs of motion sickness, but only if I had the monitor kind of close.

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what gpu is she running btw? i have this problem and its only with AA turned on. i think its the fact that my vram is only ddr3 so the bandwidth cant keep up since its screentearing at even low fps.

Also try turning up the FOV, since a restrictive fov can sometimes cause nausea as well

29 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I think what caused a lot of motion sickness cases for a lot of people was the fact that a lot of displays flicker subtly.

This coulld also  be another cause. turn up the brightness on the monitor to 100 (so the LEDs always stay on) and see if that helps.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Rickie cheong said:

I'm not sure of myself anymore,lots of people say that even the human eye can't see more than 60 fps

That is a completely wrong statement. The eye and brain most definitely can see more than 60FPS - that is a scientific fact. 

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For all those who believe the eyes have some kind of set frame rate or maximum frame rate or something, this video's fairly informative on the subject:

 

 

There's also this article I like which talks about how the eyes wiggle in order to take advantage of the superresolution phenomena. Which ties into why faster frame rates are important

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Motion sickness in games is usually due to head bob and sometimes motion blue. I turn off head bob in all games as it isn't a pleasant experience for me but the motion blur in Borderlands is really uncomfortable as well and needs to always be turned off. In general turning off those two effects will have a big impact. Chromatic aberration can cause issues for some people as well although only a few games have been adding it.

 

In addition monitors can cause their own types of eye fatigues as they also have motion blur and strobing of the backlight. So getting a backlight that is voltage controlled not strobe based for brightness can help as can getting a low motion blur monitor. Some people also have issues with stuttering and the only way to fix that is freesync/gsync.

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Hi guys

I'm sick motion sickness for several days and I do not know what to do, has anyone tried what is better 1080p or 4k?
30hz 60hz or 144hz?
and if possible what is best for motion sickness 4k or 144hz or freesync / gsync.
please any help is welcome !!

Thank you so much!!
 

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