Intel Pentium G3258

[JheLim]

Hi,

 

I need help in finding the best cheap motherboard for Intel Pentium G3258? I heard that nowadays, it will be hard to OC the G3258 because of BIOS/Windows update.

 

The build is for my brother and will be used for gaming. I don't want to spend much on the build.

 

Thanks in advance..

[Nacho Marco Segui]

I would get a 860k if you can

[Apache Protocol]

28 minutes ago, JheLim said:

Hi,

 

I need help in finding the best cheap motherboard for Intel Pentium G3258? I heard that nowadays, it will be hard to OC the G3258 because of BIOS/Windows update.

 

The build is for my brother and will be used for gaming. I don't want to spend much on the build.

 

Thanks in advance..

No it will not, for the best value of money go with MSI H81M-P33 if your Lucky with your G3258 could give you Value to Performance. But do keep in mind you will be Limited in your Games of Choice and if you choose games like GTA V you might Change a few Settings to make it Run.

 

I use the MSI H81M-P33 and i overclock it 4.2GHz@1.225V with Stock Cooler and i got AIDA64 12 hour stress test and temps only go over 60-70C, but when i got my NZXT S340 Case the MSI MoBo Look ugly Sold it to a friend purchase a ASUS B85M-GAMER and currently overclock at 4.7GHz@1.450V with a Cooler Master Hyper 212X This is to high but on AIDA65 Temps only goes 81c~85c this was a 23H53M Stress Test. basically almost a Day of burn in. But in Game hah my Temps are only 66c~69c max at 71c and this is a full 6hours game play.

 

ASUS H81M-A you can OC with this. for Budget friendly.

 

The Games i Play on my Rig are Old Games Like Dota 2 Reborn and CS:GO but i would surly agree with this cpu if your going to play lower title and soon upgrade your CPU then play Big end titles. but for me i might end up using this CPU in his Lifetime. "if i took his life early i been saving up for an cpu replacement e3 1231-v3" only if i kill this g3258.

 

 

[JheLim]

3 hours ago, Nacho Marco Segui said:

I would get a 860k if you can

Thanks. What is 860k?

 

3 hours ago, apacheprotocol said:

No it will not, for the best value of money go with MSI H81M-P33 if your Lucky with your G3258 could give you Value to Performance. But do keep in mind you will be Limited in your Games of Choice and if you choose games like GTA V you might Change a few Settings to make it Run.

 

I use the MSI H81M-P33 and i overclock it 4.2GHz@1.225V with Stock Cooler and i got AIDA64 12 hour stress test and temps only go over 60-70C, but when i got my NZXT S340 Case the MSI MoBo Look ugly Sold it to a friend purchase a ASUS B85M-GAMER and currently overclock at 4.7GHz@1.450V with a Cooler Master Hyper 212X This is to high but on AIDA65 Temps only goes 81c~85c this was a 23H53M Stress Test. basically almost a Day of burn in. But in Game hah my Temps are only 66c~69c max at 71c and this is a full 6hours game play.

 

ASUS H81M-A you can OC with this. for Budget friendly.

 

The Games i Play on my Rig are Old Games Like Dota 2 Reborn and CS:GO but i would surly agree with this cpu if your going to play lower title and soon upgrade your CPU then play Big end titles. but for me i might end up using this CPU in his Lifetime. "if i took his life early i been saving up for an cpu replacement e3 1231-v3" only if i kill this g3258.

 

 

Thanks for that very informative reply. Does b85 better than h81? Will the g3258 can run new games like bf4 or similar games?

 

 

[Nacho Marco Segui]

36 minutes ago, JheLim said:

Thanks. What is 860k?

The Athlon X4 860k, it is a quadcore CPU from AMD, I recommend it  because some new games won't even start with a dual core

[DunePilot]

I'd get a Z board. Reason being is it's literally only another $20-30 and if you choose to upgrade to an i7 later on then you already have the overclocking board you just simply need to find a good cheap chip to swap in there. I have mine paired with a GTX 950 and it scores in the 5000s on Firestrikes with that combination. This is what I did for my CAD rig. If you can spend the cash for a Z board now.... and if any money is left over go for a 4 core 3.3GHz or higher as well (but in the case of the 4 core you could go Skylake because the cost will be almost the same at that point). But if not the G3258 will work decent, but some games just won't really run right or at all on a 2 core. You should be able to run most though. Theoretically a PS4 is in the 4000s, this combo scores 5000s.

[typographie]

4 hours ago, JheLim said:

I heard that nowadays, it will be hard to OC the G3258 because of BIOS/Windows update.

There's been issues trying to overclock locked Skylake processors, which Intel never officially meant to be overclocked in the first place. The feature was briefly made available by certain motherboard manufacturers and then later retracted in a BIOS update. That may have been what you heard.

 

The G3258 is a Haswell chip, not Skylake, and it is unlocked and sold officially as an overclockable processor. There shouldn't be any problem overclocking it.

 

That said, making the jump to a Haswell or Skylake Core i3 is worthwhile, even if you cannot overclock it.

[DunePilot]

Intel pushed a microcode awhile back through a Windows 10 update which caused G3258 overclocks to blue screen. That has long been resolved to my knowledge and was only an issue for a short while.. to my knowledge anyways. I believe that is accurate info. 

[JheLim]

 

So basically, I should go with i5? That will be out of the budget if that's the case. Or 2 core i3 should be?

 

Thanks a lot to all of you..

[JheLim]

On April 20, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Nacho Marco Segui said:

The Athlon X4 860k, it is a quadcore CPU from AMD, I recommend it  because some new games won't even start with a dual core

Thanks. AMD is pretty good but I want to go with Intel..

[don_svetlio]

1 hour ago, JheLim said:

 

So basically, I should go with i5? That will be out of the budget if that's the case. Or 2 core i3 should be?

 

Thanks a lot to all of you..

Go for an i5, the Pentium is an expensive toy, not a CPU for gaming.

[NumLock21]

get a core i3 and a cheap board

Or amd quad core. Do not get the g3258.

[Prysin]

On 20/04/2016 at 8:39 AM, JheLim said:

Hi,

 

I need help in finding the best cheap motherboard for Intel Pentium G3258? I heard that nowadays, it will be hard to OC the G3258 because of BIOS/Windows update.

 

The build is for my brother and will be used for gaming. I don't want to spend much on the build.

 

Thanks in advance..

why would you buy that atrocious shit?

get an i3, or if you want to cheap out, get a FX 6300 + a ASRock 970A-G/3.1 AM3+ board....

[NumLock21]

G3258 is a toy, not a cpu you want to have in the long run. A lot who have it, will come to defend it, saying they can oc and play games too. In the end, its still a dual core and dual cores is not a cpu to get for a gaming pc.

[aisle9]

I had a G3258 in a PC for a while last year, and it served me well. It's in my wife's PC now, and paired with a 750 Ti, she loves it for the light gaming she does.

 

That said, there's a reason I have a 4790K in my rig now. The only reasons to buy a G3258 at this point would be to save a few bucks building so you can put your rig together now and add a 4690K/4790K later, or if you just want a cheap, fun rig that you can overclock the snot out of and handle pre-2014 games like a champ (with the right GPU). As a long-term gaming solution, nope. You're better off ponying up for an i3. As more processor-intensive games come out, the 860K is starting to show its age and approach "expensive toy" status as well.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, aisle9 said:

I had a G3258 in a PC for a while last year, and it served me well. It's in my wife's PC now, and paired with a 750 Ti, she loves it for the light gaming she does.

 

That said, there's a reason I have a 4790K in my rig now. The only reasons to buy a G3258 at this point would be to save a few bucks building so you can put your rig together now and add a 4690K/4790K later, or if you just want a cheap, fun rig that you can overclock the snot out of and handle pre-2014 games like a champ (with the right GPU). As a long-term gaming solution, nope. You're better off ponying up for an i3. As more processor-intensive games come out, the 860K is starting to show its age and approach "expensive toy" status as well.

you should get the Athlon x4 845, baseclock OC it to 4Ghz and it competes with older sandy bridge i5s... i have that Athlon (for lulz only), and it is fucking badass for the price.

[Apache Protocol]

I call this Comments RIP G3258.

 

On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 1:06 AM, JheLim said:

Thanks. What is 860k?

 

Thanks for that very informative reply. Does b85 better than h81? Will the g3258 can run new games like bf4 or similar games?

 

 

Hmm how could i put this to my point of view in my own way, if you purchase a z97 or z170 buy what you will use and afford basically find a good deal look what you need and list it down. I choose the B85 cause i just need a mobo with 4 dimm slot that can support max 32gb ram and i really dont need SLI or CF and M.2 slot is out of the question expensive as hell and to what i will be doing with it will be most likely up to you, yeah going with a $100-120 z97 will be good but remember replacing parts will be always expensive. So i just did what i think would fit best in my case a MoBo that can do stuff right CPU Upgrade and enough SATA 3 and RAMM Slot that will i be using in the next 2-4years.

 

I purchase the MSI H81M-P33 for $49 sold it for $45 purchase a new ASUS B85M-GAMER MoBo that i found on Sale like $59 so i just addad $14, i could go all out 4x8gb ddr3 and 1 gpu and add a 1 PCIE wireless card and i could even add 4 SATA3 SSD. On CPU i purchase G3258 cause right now here in my country it suck balls that its way to expensive even getting i5 4460 cost around $190 and the G3258 cost $55-60 here cause they dont even know it was unlock yeah now im looking at my next upgrade it will be a Xeon E3 1231 V3 and yes my MoBo could support it. Why going to a lockchip and not overclock i just knew that someday replacing parts will still be expensive.

 

Just look what you need, ask yourself then ask someone else then decide if you can afford what they tell you.

 

BTW BF4 is old but i could get 180fps and avg of 130 min of 90 fps.

[JheLim]

Thanks all for the help. I don't know what to say now. Maybe I should go with i5 4460? what will be the best and cheap motherboard for this?

[NumLock21]

1 hour ago, JheLim said:

Thanks all for the help. I don't know what to say now. Maybe I should go with i5 4460? what will be the best and cheap motherboard for this?

Any will do

[Apache Protocol]

4 hours ago, JheLim said:

Thanks all for the help. I don't know what to say now. Maybe I should go with i5 4460? what will be the best and cheap motherboard for this?

go for b85 chipset so that you could max 32gb ram in the future.

 

 

[JheLim]

I'm thinking of this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r3QxLk

 

Pity for me price is almost $150 more in my place

 

I hope there's a way I can buy this online and ship to my place

[typographie]

1 hour ago, JheLim said:

I'm thinking of this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r3QxLk

 

Pity for me price is almost $150 more in my place

 

I hope there's a way I can buy this online and ship to my place

If the i5 is difficult to afford, I personally think you could do fine with an i3. As I said above, even without being able to overclock, an i3-4xxx or i3-6xxx is usually faster than an overclocked G3258.

 

You could get a Haswell i3 and keep the same motherboard and memory you've already picked out. Or you could get the newer i3-6100, but it would need an LGA-1151 motherboard and ideally DDR4 memory. The price difference between the two options should be quite minor.

[Apache Protocol]

3 hours ago, typographie said:

If the i5 is difficult to afford, I personally think you could do fine with an i3. As I said above, even without being able to overclock, an i3-4xxx or i3-6xxx is usually faster than an overclocked G3258.

 

You could get a Haswell i3 and keep the same motherboard and memory you've already picked out. Or you could get the newer i3-6100, but it would need an LGA-1151 motherboard and ideally DDR4 memory. The price difference between the two options should be quite minor.

I thing i3 is faster ingeneral but if you comparing it with a 4.7GHz G3258 think again on some games the Pentium will gain more, and some games will run much better on an i3. there are alot of things to consider just keep an Open Mind.

[typographie]

1 hour ago, apacheprotocol said:

I thing i3 is faster ingeneral but if you comparing it with a 4.7GHz G3258 think again on some games the Pentium will gain more, and some games will run much better on an i3. there are alot of things to consider just keep an Open Mind.

My mind is open, which in this context means my understanding of the topic may shift when provided professionally-prepared evidence to back other claims. As of now, all such evidence I've personally seen has supported the idea that an overclocked G3258 won't beat a lower-clocked Core i3 in most games.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8232/overclockable-pentium-anniversary-edition-review-the-intel-pentium-g3258-ae/4

Anandtech actually tested their G3258 at stock and at 4.7 GHz, coincidently enough, and throughout the games they tested it only matched a i3-4330 at 3.5 GHz in the best of cases. There might be some fringe cases out there, but I imagine they're mostly older games based on older engines.

[Apache Protocol]

9 hours ago, typographie said:

My mind is open, which in this context means my understanding of the topic may shift when provided professionally-prepared evidence to back other claims. As of now, all such evidence I've personally seen has supported the idea that an overclocked G3258 won't beat a lower-clocked Core i3 in most games.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8232/overclockable-pentium-anniversary-edition-review-the-intel-pentium-g3258-ae/4

Anandtech actually tested their G3258 at stock and at 4.7 GHz, coincidently enough, and throughout the games they tested it only matched a i3-4330 at 3.5 GHz in the best of cases. There might be some fringe cases out there, but I imagine they're mostly older games based on older engines.

And if your going to get bit more complicated your comparing G3258 on a i3-4330 is much more expensive in the budget side of i3-4170 and the i3-4330 has more cache and if your going to spend around $150~180 for a i3 i would put my aside talking about g3258 and just go with a i5-4460 with a price range of around i$180. and yes higher end i3 would be a better choice but for the price i would rather get i5-4460 in this case alone, aside to what i claim budget i3-4170 compare in a overclock G3258 on some games in single core performance can gain a much better gameplay.

 

i5-4460    $181.83 ~ Amazon
i3-4330    $150~180 Estimated Guess can't find with a good deal on amazon or newegg for reference purposes "please verify if you know where you could get on a small budget @typographie to help @JheLim"
i3-4170    $119.99 ~ Amazon
G3258    $67.99 ~ Amazon

 

and here is the list comparison of the cpu and i need to clear up why in your i3-4330 it has better cache so it will gain more performance the budget i3 that could be properly compared with a pentium g3258 would be i3-4170 and the price to performance will come in to play.

 

http://ark.intel.com/compare/80817,77769,77490,82723

 

@JheLim

i would ask what are you planning to do with your Build? to help give more information in my side.

On 4/20/2016 at 1:06 AM, JheLim said:

Will the g3258 can run new games like bf4 or similar games?

the g3258 can run bf4 paired with a decent gpu but some will say that it could not perform at all but i really cant say.

 

i played bf4 when it was on a 2 week period and i pretty much played every single day for 3-5hrs on campaign.

G3258 4.7Ghz/GTX950 1,545Mhz my Avg FPS was 132.