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Which HDD's to AVOID

The Knome

Hi everyone.
Its getting time again I need to extend my storage in the pc and in this case I am looking for hard drives that are for backup.
 

Rather than saying recommend me a hard drive I am asking which I should avoid?
I remember there was a spate of HDD's that were dropping like flies at one point last year so with this being long term storage dont want to touch them on the off chance of loosing a lot of data.

 

 

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Toshiba.

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You're probably referring to the Backblaze article and their 3TB seagate drives. They were pulled from external drives and used in a harsher environment than the other drives which lead to misleading results. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/

It's an interesting article but it isn't good to base reliability off of it. Take it with a heap of salt. 

 

It's also much easier to recommend good drives than to avoid bad ones. Drives often recommended as good will usually be a decent value as well and be widely available. 

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generally speaking

 

used HDDs are the ones to avoid `-` at all cost

 

i would only buy WD HDDs, because im biased

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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Samsung HDD's was great.

 

WD and Seagate are the only solid brands.

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1 minute ago, King_Tuna said:

Samsung HDD's was great.

 

WD and Seagate are the only solid brands.

WD, Seagate and Hitachi actually. Hitachi just isn't pop, but they are solid.

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Look at it from the other direction: assume that any drive will fail at some unknown time in the future. Plan for it in a suitable way, such as making sure you keep up to date with external backups. If you need more live redundancy look at raid 1 or similar, but that doesn't replace having backups.

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Used hard drives .

 

Also , IDE drives , those tend to be a bit slow :D

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I try to buy HGST, and failing that, Toshiba.  The WD premium seems not only to be unjustified, but Backblaze seems to have poorer overall results with the WDs than the HGSTs of all vintages.

 

Also, the HGSTs tend to come with firmware that plays well with RAID-5/6 in NAS configurations straight out of the box, while you have to pay extra for the WD "Red" or "Black" drives for that. 

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15 hours ago, The Knome said:

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Hello :)

 

I'd consider @WoodenMarker's suggestion. Also, do have in mind that HDDs are mechanical units after all and failures do happen for one reason or another. This is why backups should be an essential part of anyone who is planning their storage configuration for important data. 

 

I would consider having the data on multiple places with the main one having some redundancy level (RAID for example). I would consider a NAS (like the WD My Cloud series) for the main storage place with often backups to external drives. This way you can retain your data regardless if a drive fails thus avoiding the risks of bad drive choices. :)

 

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On 14/04/2016 at 6:19 PM, WoodenMarker said:

You're probably referring to the Backblaze article and their 3TB seagate drives. They were pulled from external drives and used in a harsher environment than the other drives which lead to misleading results. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/

It's an interesting article but it isn't good to base reliability off of it. Take it with a heap of salt. 

 

It's also much easier to recommend good drives than to avoid bad ones. Drives often recommended as good will usually be a decent value as well and be widely available. 

 

Actually the first time I have seen that article, I remember tech syndicate had a astonishing number of failures on a server (though damned if I can remember when, long term memories not time stamped).

HSGT I have never heard of until now, but will add them to the list of looking at. 

WD have such a range (and sales jargon) its a pain to differentiate when you are looking for something thats sole purpose is going to be to clone another HDD of personal files.
And likely spend a fair amount of time powered down, spinning up should be one of the most stressful processes for a HDD? its likely it will be doing it more than the computer is switched on and off (being entirely SSD on programs and workflow now).



 

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48 minutes ago, The Knome said:

HSGT I have never heard of until now, but will add them to the list of looking at. 


 

hgst is hitachi

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toshiba.. very bad experience on me

 

recommended drive would be.. WD

i still have my WD 80GB IDE.. still in good condition :D

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On 19.04.2016 г. at 4:47 PM, The Knome said:

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As @ZetZet explained, you may have heard about HGST as Hitachi. :) You can check the company's website for more info. 

 

If you need help with any of WD's drives and their specific design, purpose, advantages and disadvantages - feel free to PM me or simply post here and will be more than happy to help with whatever I can.

 

For the purpose that yo are describing, WD Blue may be the most suitable one so I'd check it out.

 

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I really don't trust Hitachi that much... The normally aim to lower power consumption over general performance.

However if you're low on budget, their products tend to be a little bit cheaper that the equivalent of other companies.

 

In my opinion, the best storage providers are WD and SanDisk. However, I'm willingly expecting a good fusion by the two of them sometime this year.

 

Edit: I'd also avoid Samsung and Toshiba. At least the Samsung low-end products.

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