Looking for GTX 960

[don_svetlio]

Just now, K0MP4CT said:

In general, AMD cards run hotter, it isn't the reason I bought an Nvidia card, it's just a little bonus.

There's a difference between running hot and outputting a bit more heat. Sapphire 390 runs cooler and quieter than ANY 970. Same for their 390X or Fury. Fact of the matter, it depends on the board partner and cooler. The G1 Turbine on the 970 is loud as fuck

[rattacko123]

why get a 960 if you can get a 760 or a 280X?

[wraptor]

Just now, rattacko123 said:

why get a 960 if you can get a 760 or a 280X?

Because the 960 has more raw performance and has more build in features the 700 series would never get.

The 280X has the same thing, its older and inëfficient vs newer cards.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, tv15dsi said:

Because the 960 has more raw performance and has more build in features the 700 series would never get.

The 280X has the same thing, its older and inëfficient vs newer cards.

280X is roughly 20% more powerful than a 960. It's using 250W to power double the stream processors of a 960 - the efficiency is identical

[rattacko123]

1 minute ago, tv15dsi said:

Because the 960 has more raw performance and has more build in features the 700 series would never get.

The 280X has the same thing, its older and inëfficient vs newer cards.

the 960 is only like 5% better and honestly, nobody uses the features. I bought a 970 because I thought nvenc would be useful, turns out I never use it. CUDA is pretty good, but only if your doing professional stuff. 280X is great, even though it has no features, it's pretty good for gaming. Inefficiency doesn't really matter too much. 

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

the 960 is only like 5% better and honestly, nobody uses the features. I bought a 970 because I thought nvenc would be useful, turns out I never use it. CUDA is pretty good, but only if your doing professional stuff. 280X is great, even though it has no features, it's pretty good for gaming. Inefficiency doesn't really matter too much. 

Actually, AMD have a lot of features which people neglect. Free-sync, True Audio, GPU Open, Vastly superior OpenCL performance, Bridgless CF, Better DX12 performance

[wraptor]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

280X is roughly 20% more powerful than a 960. It's using 250W to power double the stream processors of a 960 - the efficiency is identical

250W to power dubble the processors and give only 20%, isn't that a waste?
I'd prefer buying a newer card, they're up-to-date in features, yes you've got a point there.

 

The card would be like you said: 15-20% better in performance

[don_svetlio]

Just now, tv15dsi said:

250W to power dubble the processors and give only 20%, isn't that a waste?
I'd prefer buying a newer card, they're up-to-date in features, yes you've got a point there.

 

The card would be like you said: 15-20% better in performance
 

That is due to heavy driver optimization for the 960. Once, like with Kepler, it gets dropped, you'll see a 960 degrade rapidly in newer titles. Also, in DX12, the 280X performs on the level of a 780

[rattacko123]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Actually, AMD have a lot of features which people neglect. Free-sync, True Audio, GPU Open, Vastly superior OpenCL performance, Bridgless CF, Better DX12 performance

Nobody uses True-Audio, 280X still requires crossfire bridge (its a GCN 1.0 card).

Good point about the OpenCL performance. My gtx 970 struggles in windows 10 with one of my OpenCL programs, and Nvidia still hasn't fixed their OpenCL drivers, I get a lot of crashing using OpenCL.

[wraptor]

4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

That is due to heavy driver optimization for the 960. Once, like with Kepler, it gets dropped, you'll see a 960 degrade rapidly in newer titles. Also, in DX12, the 280X performs on the level of a 780

The 960 wasn't buid to compete against a 280x,

The 960 is seen as a mid-range GPU, unlike the 280X which is rated as a high-end consumer card.

Yes the 960 would be outrated soon, but thats not what its made for.... not for competing against 280X'es

 

SOURCE: Crappiepedia

Edited April 5, 2016 by tv15dsi

[rattacko123]

5 minutes ago, tv15dsi said:

250W to power dubble the processors and give only 20%, isn't that a waste?

Not really, 280X has good Double precision, and the extra 100W won't make much of a difference on your electricity bill

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, rattacko123 said:

Nobody uses True-Audio, 280X still requires crossfire bridge (its a GCN 1.0 card).

Good point about the OpenCL performance. My gtx 970 struggles in windows 10 with one of my OpenCL programs, and Nvidia still hasn't fixed their OpenCL drivers, I get a lot of crashing using OpenCL.

I guess I should've specified it applies to GCN 1.1 and above. As for OpenCL, in Sony Vegas 13 a 280X actually beats a 980 Ti

 

1 minute ago, tv15dsi said:

The 960 wasn't buid to compete against a 280x,

The 960 is seen as a mid-range GPU, unlike the 280X which is rated as a high-end consumer card.

Yes the 960 would be outrated soon, but thats not what its made for.... not for competing against 280X'es

Thing is, the 280X was released in 2012 originally and is still relevant 4 years later. The 680 though, is much worse than it was originally. When it came out, the 680 was 10% above the 7970, then you see how things change. 7970 GHz (280X) is now 20% above that. THat's a gain of 30% via driver updates

[wraptor]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

I guess I should've specified it applies to GCN 1.1 and above. As for OpenCL, in Sony Vegas 13 a 280X actually beats a 980 Ti

 

Thing is, the 280X was released in 2012 originally and is still relevant 4 years later. The 680 though, is much worse than it was originally. When it came out, the 680 was 10% above the 7970, then you see how things change. 7970 GHz (280X) is now 20% above that. THat's a gain of 30% via driver updates

Well, I'm of to helping other people, this thread has been answered multiple times and has now been filled with extra NVidia vs AMD information

[Jay97]

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT

 

[Jay97]

IS 450 WATTS ENOUGH FOR ASUS GTX 960 4GB??

[wraptor]

6 hours ago, Jay97 said:

IS 450 WATTS ENOUGH FOR ASUS GTX 960 4GB??

Depends on what CPU you are using, and how many other devices you've got plugged in the build.

calculate the total power consumption and take a psu thats above that so you're shure.

[Jay97]

LAST THING WHICH ONE OF HEN IS GOOD ONE GUP OF THE BELOW MENTIONED;

MY MOTHER BOARD IS

http://www.gigabyte.in/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5022#sp
PLEASE TELL IS THIS GPU WORKS

 

1) https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/STRIXGTX960DC2OC4GD5/overview/

2)https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/STRIX-GTX960-DC2-4GD5/

AND WHY ??

THANKYOU:)

[Nacho Marco Segui]

Why are you shouting?

[ddrkreature]

1: Easy with the caps lock.

2: Spell check

3: I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't work other than the case dimensions. As long as you have the socket on the mobo, an ample power supply, and space in the case, you should be good

[Dabombinable]

Stop with the capslock, of course they'll work, any graphics card that is PCIe will work.

[BurblingBarbacoa]

They'll both work fine. Go easy on the caps lock and check your spelling and layout.... 

[exercutor5]

WHICH WORKS GOOD WITH YOUR SPECS? WHAT SPECS? YOU DIDNT PUT ANY SPECS.

 

 

yes i put caps lock for the fun factor

[don_svetlio]

R9 380 would be a better choice since it's cheaper and performs 15% better

[don_svetlio]

18 hours ago, Jay97 said:

IS 450 WATTS ENOUGH FOR ASUS GTX 960 4GB??

Good 450W - yes
Bad 450W - hell no

[Danscu]

I have a GTX 960 windforce from gigabyte. It has 4gb of vRAM, and I'm really happy with it. It has a lot of different ports.