Great job MS!

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Yea great fucking job Microsoft. Went out, took a long shit. Came back only find out win 10 installed itself while I was doing my business.

Not only that thousands of my skyrim screenshot got erased including steam(yea I put them in windows.old, so what?) No system restore point, nothing. 

 

Not only that, this fucking timer kept appearing for a few days now.

But where's the fucking no button? Every single time I untick the win 10 upgrade, it manages to check itself again. That's annoying, extremely annoying. 

 

Earlier was the last straw, it managed to install itself even though I've already stopped the installation files from downloading. 

Thankfully it atleast let me decline win 10. And restored itself to win 7. 

 

Has anyone else experienced the same? 

 

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

3 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

Yea great fucking job Microsoft. Went out, took a long shit. Came back only find out win 10 installed itself while I was doing my business.

Not only that thousands of my skyrim screenshot got erased including steam(yea I put them in windows.old, so what?) No system restore point, nothing. 

 

Not only that, this fucking timer kept appearing for a few days now.

But where's the fucking no button? Every single time I untick the win 10 upgrade, it manages to check itself again. That's annoying, extremely annoying. 

 

Earlier was the last straw, it managed to install itself even though I've already stopped the installation files from downloading. 

Thankfully it atleast let me decline win 10. And restored itself to win 7. 

 

Has anyone else experienced the same? 

 

It should still be in windows.old that's where all my old stuff is but most of it just transferred over normally and nothing was changed, not even my desktop

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Just now, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

It should still be in windows.old that's where all my old stuff is but most of it just transferred over normally and nothing was changed, not even my desktop

 

The thing is, windows.old was erased. Sadly.

 

But my skyrim still works. Thank God.

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

2 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

The thing is, windows.old was erased. Sadly.

 

But my skyrim still works. Thank God.

Was skyrim in windows.old? If so look at the properties and find where it is now, you should be able to find your screenshots there

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

1 minute ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

Was skyrim in windows.old? If so look at the properties and find where it is now, you should be able to find your screenshots there

No no. Skyrim wasn't only the screenshots were. 

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

5 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

No no. Skyrim wasn't only the screenshots were. 

ah

[papapoi]

did you try to run a recovery program like recuva to getyour screenshots?

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

21 minutes ago, papapoi said:

did you try to run a recovery program like recuva to getyour screenshots?

 

Not much time left for me to do, I'm leaving for another country in awhile.

[FmPhenom]

15 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

Not much time left for me to do, I'm leaving for another country in awhile.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......what other images are you running away from

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Just now, FmPhenom said:

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......what other images are you running away from

 

heh heh  Its just a short trip abroad. Just so happens that ms wanted to fuck me over before I leave. 

[Bhav]

Congratulations!

 

Well done to Microsoft for updating your OS for free!

 

I am happy for you.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

31 minutes ago, Bhav said:

Congratulations!

 

Well done to Microsoft for updating your OS for free!

 

I am happy for you.

 

Yea great fucking job even when I said no. 

 

They love me too much I would say.

[GoodBytes]

Ok, so first of all:

• Windows.OLD folder being erased is 100% your fault.
• I think you clicked on "Install Later", and not the "X" button on the window. "Install Later", means, "download, prepare everything, and pick a time I am usually idle and install". The message window explains that.
• Or you executed Windows Update, where Windows 10 is being shown as a Recommended update. You forgot to hide it.
• Steam is normally transferred to your new install with your screen shots. You are definitely the first I hear that need to re-install Steam and the games. So I don't know what you did here.

 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

28 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Ok, so first of all:

• Windows.OLD folder being erased is 100% your fault.
• I think you clicked on "Install Later", and not the "X" button on the window. "Install Later", means, "download, prepare everything, and pick a time I am usually idle and install". The message window explains that.
• Or you executed Windows Update, where Windows 10 is being shown as a Recommended update. You forgot to hide it.
• Steam is normally transferred to your new install with your screen shots. You are definitely the first I hear that need to re-install Steam and the games. So I don't know what you did here.

 

 

Yeap definitely expected you to reply. Too fast to talk eh?

 

1. I did not give the windows installation any permission to delete any folders. 

2. I fucking clicked the X button.

3. I stopped the download, it started itself again while I was gone.

4. My steam install was in windows.old. It wouldn't even have been transferred if the install erased the folder. 

 

 

[GoodBytes]

8 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

Yeap definitely expected you to reply. Too fast to talk eh?

 

1. I did not give the windows installation any permission to delete any folders. 

2. I fucking clicked the X button.

3. I stopped the download, it started itself again while I was gone.

4. My steam install was in windows.old. It wouldn't even have been transferred if the install erased the folder. 

Wait... so you are saying that Steam was in Windows.old in the first place, and you never moved it all this time, and you continue to use it, so when Windows 10 installed, of coursed it cleared it, to make a new Windows.old for your current system to backup so you lost your games. If that is the case... then that is on you buddy.

 

Stop the download is not going to stop it from ever installing, you need to hide the update.

Right-click and select "Hide Update" on the update you don't want to install ever, in Windows Update.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Just now, GoodBytes said:

Wait... so you are saying that Steam was in Windows.old in the first place, and you never moved it all this time, and you continue to use it, so when Windows 10 installed, of coursed it cleared it, to make a new Windows.old for your current system to backup so you lost your games. If that is the case... then that is on you buddy.

 

Of course. I was also expecting a reply like this. Windows will put all old files into windows.old.001. I already have windows.old.000. I didn't move steam because I didn't have to. Unless you're telling me Windows 7 was smart enough to do that but not 10. 

 

You should've already known this.

[GoodBytes]

Ok well dude, you were being an idiot.

That is like installing your programs in your Temp directory, and go "Oh I didn't know that the Temp directory was Temporary! Curse you Microsoft!". Like are you kidding me?

 

But seriously dude. I know you are pissed right now, because you lost a lot, and I understand that, I am sure I would be too. And you think I am being "Microsoft defender", well I am just telling you how Windows works, but anyway. Calm down. Take a breather. They are just games.

 

Next time, install things properly on your system, and don't take the lazy path. Take it as a life lesson, at least I would. Take that as a good lesson to backup your stuff every now and then, before you have a WORST situation, where the HDD failed (at the time, SSDs was not a thing in the consumer market), and lost valuable family pictures that can't be re-taken, and personal projects.

 

My setup now consists of using Windows File History (Windows 8 and up), and I do monthly backups to an external drive of all my stuff I care about. Pictures are also burned on disk once every 6 month. When it comes to pictures, when I extract them from my camera they are stored on my system and immediately on my backup drive.

 

Other ideas:

Some people what they do, they have C:\ and D:\ partitions for their HDD/SSD.

C:\ is reserved for Windows and only Windows and Programs.

D:\ is where they install all theirs games (so this is where you install Steam by exception), and also this is where they put in Documents, Pictures, and so on. Of course, all in a nice organized matter. In Windows you can link "Documents", "Pictures", etc. folders to another folder, so they do that from the respected folder property panel.

 

They do this, so that if they need to re-install Windows, they don't need to worry about forgetting to backup something, as Windows will format the C:\ drive to install or re-install itself. So all you they need to do, is just re-link Document, Pictures, Videos, back to the folder in D:\ drive, re-install their programs, re-install Steam back to the D:\ drive, and when you start Steam, it will re-detect the games, re-register them with your system, install what they need to install when you start them, does its DRM magic, and the game will be ready to go.

 

 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

14 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Ok well dude, you were being an idiot.

That is like installing your programs in your Temp directory, and go "Oh I didn't know that the Temp directory was Temporary! Curse you Microsoft!". Like are you kidding me?

 

But seriously dude. I know you are pissed right now, because you lost a lot, and I understand that. And you think I am being "Microsoft defender", well I am just telling you how Windows works, but anyway. Calm down. Take a breather. They are just games. And next time, install things properly on your system, and don't take the lazy path. Also, take that as a good lesson to backup your stuff every now and then, before you have a WORST situation, where the HDD failed (at the time, SSDs was not a thing in the consumer market), and lost valuable family pictures that can't be re-taken, and personal projects. My setup consists of using Windows File History (Windows 8 and up), and I do monthly backups to an external drive of all my stuff I care about. When it comes to pictures, when I extract them from my camera they are stored on my system and immediately on my backup drive.

 

Heh, you think I'm being pissed just because that folder was deleted? Because all the images are gone for good right? Unfortunately for you, its not. They're all plastered all over the internet and in multiple folders of my harddriveS. Yea and to think someone with thousand of images wouldn't know what a back up is. What I'm pissed about is...

 

1. How the fuck did it install itself?

2. Why the fuck is it so annoying? 

3. Why the fuck did win 10 not detect and create another folder like win 7 did. Unless you're telling me win 10 actually lacked such a basic feature that win 7 has. 

 

What you're telling me is how "win 10" works not windows. If it really does work this way, thats pathetic. And hilarious. 

[GoodBytes]

Ah ok! Very good.

14 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

1. How the fuck did it install itself?

2. Why the fuck is it so annoying? 

3. Why the fuck did win 10 not detect and create another folder like win 7 did. Unless you're telling me win 10 actually lacked such a basic feature that win 7 has. 

For 1). They are 2 ways to have Windows 10 install itself. The first one is the fact that Windows 10 is being delivered to Windows 7 and 8 users as recommended update, though Windows Update. So, if the update is not hidden in Windows Update, and you have Windows 7/8 to automatically install recommended updates, then this is when you get the surprise.

 

The other way, is to click on "Later" without reading the message box properly that shows up every now and then to inform you about Windows 10.

 

 

For 2). It is annoying, because Microsoft wants everyone to move to Windows 10, to fit with the company new business model. The new model is what the market wants Microsoft to fit and be to remain relevant in today's world. In other words:

 -> Continuous update of OS, and be agile and fast about it, and not have 3 years wait.

 

 -> Ideally, have Windows available for free (once the company converted, and has revenue coming in, expect that Windows will be free.. so in few years... right now it is probably in the shareholder/investors approval stages, hence why the free upgrade offer is for 1 year)

 

 -> Have an eco-system that is internet connected. People demand Microsoft to have similar offering to Google and Apple eco-system, and so, Windows 10 is just that. In addition, like Google, it is used to boost the company own services. So for example, Chrome is free, fast updating, active development, but it is designed to identify you, knows you, knows your interests and that information is sent to Google to be sold, and push Google services on you, to help bring additional revenue to Google. That is how Google makes its money.

 

In the case of Microsoft. When you use Windows 10 Cortana, or do searches through Edge or Start Menu, it all goes through Bing. And you are using Bing service. Your account is connected online via a "Microsoft account", which allows you to not only use additional Microsoft services such as XBox app, but also have your account settings in sync between your systems and devices running Windows 10. And Windows 10 uses that sync system through OneDrive  (hence why it needs the account), and then you have OneDrive integrated. This gives Microsoft an opportunity for its user to request additional storage space for OneDrive, if they like it, and that bring revenue to Microsoft. And stuff like that.

 

In addition, it hopes to make money from the App Store, from purchased apps, or acquired free apps that has ads in them (as it uses Bing ads service), for the apps that choose to have that to make money. Google and Apple makes BILLIONS each, from the store.

 

You are not forced to use any of this. For example, I have Cortana disabled, but I use OneDrive.

 

This is the new business model, and in order for it to work, it needs mass amount of people.

 

As for 3), Microsoft doesn't treat your system as trash. It will try and keep its crap it does clean.

Windows.OLD is nothing but a temporary folder. It is supposed to be automatically deleted after a period of time by the user. In Windows 10, it gives it exactly 30 days, and then it will automatically delete it, because most users don't delete it. Windows.OLD is meant to give the user the ability to recover data that Windows failed to transfer for various reasons, and since Windows 10, ability to restore back the old Windows in the case things don't run right (you have 30 days from install, as, as mentioned, it will be deleted after).

 

 

Quote

What you're telling me is how "win 10" works not windows. If it really does work this way, thats pathetic. And hilarious. 

Nope, how Windows works.

[stconquest]

I have win7.  I have never had a message to upgrade.  MS hates me

[GoodBytes]

Just now, stconquest said:

I have win7.  I have never had a message to upgrade.  MS hates me

Well you are Q, so you are asking for it

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

8 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Ah ok! Very good.

For 1). They are 2 ways to have Windows 10 install itself. The first one is the fact that Windows 10 is being delivered to Windows 7 and 8 users as recommended update, though Windows Update. So, if the update is not hidden in Windows Update, and you have Windows 7/8 to automatically install recommended updates, then this is when you get the surprise.

 

The other way, is to click on "Later" without reading the message box properly that shows up every now and then to inform you about Windows 10.

 

 

For 2). <Good and useful information about win 10>

 

As for 3), Microsoft doesn't treat your system as trash. It will try and keep its crap it does clean.

Windows.OLD is nothing but a temporary folder. It is supposed to be automatically deleted after a period of time by the user. In Windows 10, it gives it exactly 30 days, and then it will automatically delete it, because most users don't delete it. Windows.OLD is meant to give the user the ability to recover data that Windows failed to transfer for various reasons, and since Windows 10, ability to restore back the old Windows in the case things don't run right (you have 30 days from install, as, as mentioned, it will be deleted after).

 

 

Nope, how Windows works.

 

1. So how does it explain that windows update itself even though I've stopped it? 

 

2. Appreciate your efforts in writing this. But sadly, I'm not upgrading. I don't want to upgrade to an OS where half my programs can't even run in win 10. Only when I'm done with all my projects then will I move to 10. If for a moment you think I'm fearful of MS "spying" on shit. Then you're dead wrong. 

 

Not hard to see right? 

 

Also this problem: 

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/863242/geforce-drivers/-request-remove-4gb-limit-of-vram-for-dx9-games/4/

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/3j3toj/i_just_came_across_some_info_that_may_indicate/

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/3lm0pz/is_skyrim_enb_limited_to_4gb_vram_usage/

 

3. Windows.old not OLD. Well, doesn't really tell me why win 10 lacked the basic function that win 7 has. 

[joedude1635]

1 hour ago, Pohernori said:

 

1. So how does it explain that windows update itself even though I've stopped it? 

 

2. Appreciate your efforts in writing this. But sadly, I'm not upgrading. I don't want to upgrade to an OS where half my programs can't even run in win 10. Only when I'm done with all my projects then will I move to 10. If for a moment you think I'm fearful of MS "spying" on shit. Then you're dead wrong. 

 

Not hard to see right? 

 

Also this problem: 

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/863242/geforce-drivers/-request-remove-4gb-limit-of-vram-for-dx9-games/4/

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/3j3toj/i_just_came_across_some_info_that_may_indicate/

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/3lm0pz/is_skyrim_enb_limited_to_4gb_vram_usage/

 

3. Windows.old not OLD. Well, doesn't really tell me why win 10 lacked the basic function that win 7 has. 

1. YOU DIDN'T. You have to hide the update.

 

2. Every single program I have ever use is compatible with Windows 10.

 

3. TEMPORARY. Windows.old isn't meant to be kept forever. As GoodBytes said, that's like installing a program in the Temp folder. For obvious reasons, it's gonna be deleted.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

16 minutes ago, joedude1635 said:

1. YOU DIDN'T. You have to hide the update.

 

2. Every single program I have ever use is compatible with Windows 10.

 

3. TEMPORARY. Windows.old isn't meant to be kept forever. As GoodBytes said, that's like installing a program in the Temp folder. For obvious reasons, it's gonna be deleted.

 

1. So it would continue updating even though I've stopped it?

 

2. Do you use what I use? Yea, no. 

Oh then you might want to fix the vram issue as well.

 

3. Telling me its temporary does not tell me why win 10 lack the basic feature win 7 has.