All the knowledge about AMD ZEN

[Chimras]

Just want to require some basic knowledge about the AMD ZEN, like if anyone knows about the release date and other stuff. Thanks  (i wont buy intel dont even bother) 

[Yuniks]

The only thing I know about it is that this line will have some pretty competitive performance with Intel processors (AMD's finally making their processors have way better perfomance) and that one of the processors is going to be a 16-core processor.

[Chimras]

7 hours ago, Psychemm said:

The only thing I know about it is that this line will have some pretty competitive performance with Intel processors (AMD's finally making their processors have way better perfomance) and that one of the processors is going to be a 16-core processor.

Dosent the Intel Xeon have about 16 cores? What makes more cores better then lets say 8. Does it have more Mhz when you have more cores

[Nena Trinity]

q4 2016, that is uses SMT & I heard it may feature 4 to 8 cores!

[Chimras]

7 hours ago, Nena360 said:

q4 2016, that is uses SMT & I heard it may feature 4 to 8 cores!

Isnt the Zen going to be AM4, not AM3. Does that mean that they need to make new motherboard so that they will only be compatible with just the Zen?

[Yuniks]

1 minute ago, Chimras said:

Dosent the Intel Xeon have about 16 cores? What makes more cores better then lets say 8. Does it have more Mhz when you have more cores

There might be a Xeon that has 16 cores but I haven't done much research on those processors. And more cores means the workload is spread out more between the cores. At least I'm pretty sure that's what it means.

[Nena Trinity]

Just now, Chimras said:

Isnt the Zen going to be AM4, not AM3. Does that mean that they need to make new motherboard so that they will only be compatible with just the Zen?

AM4 or FM3 & DDR4!

[alexhelvetica]

It is all very unknown ATM. Wait till late this year.

[Chimras]

6 hours ago, Nena360 said:

AM4 or FM3 & DDR4!

Aw fuck, so you need a motherboard that uses DDR4 and a new socket match?

Renectly bought the )70 Pro Gaming Aura, probably wont be compatible with the Zen

[Dash Lambda]

There are a few numbers being thrown around, but we know nothing substantial.

 

By the way, why exactly are you so averse to Intel?

[Dash Lambda]

1 minute ago, Chimras said:

Aw fuck, so you need a motherboard that uses DDR4 and a new socket match?

Renectly bought the )70 Pro Gaming Aura, probably wont be compatible with the Zen

The problem is that their existing platform and architecture is so old it would be kind of useless for a new product.

[rishi13999]

8 minutes ago, Chimras said:

Dosent the Intel Xeon have about 16 cores? What makes more cores better then lets say 8. Does it have more Mhz when you have more cores

xeons are enterprise grade processors not  consumer grade one, but 16 core zen will be a consumer grade one as far as i know....

[ZetZet]

17 minutes ago, Chimras said:

 (i wont buy intel dont even bother) 

 

 

 

[Moonzy]

11 minutes ago, Chimras said:

Dosent the Intel Xeon have about 16 cores? What makes more cores better then lets say 8. Does it have more Mhz when you have more cores

more cores = more performance for MULTI THREADED WORKLOAD

higher ghz = higher performance overall for all tasks (if comparing processors, only same architecture makes sense to compare ghz)

 

gaming = 4 cores and 8 hyperthreading is fine for now

[Dash Lambda]

Just now, Moonzy said:

more cores = more performance for MULTI THREADED WORKLOAD

higher ghz = higher performance overall for all tasks (if comparing processors, only same architecture makes sense to compare ghz)

 

gaming = 4 cores and 8 hyperthreading is fine for now

It only makes sense to compare core count within the same architecture as well.

It's a bit more consistent that frequency, but it still varies a lot.

[Moonzy]

3 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

 

 

 

he likes red

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

It only makes sense to compare core count within the same architecture as well.

It's a bit more consistent that frequency, but it still varies a lot.

well yea, best way to determine performance = cinebench + gaming

[Chimras]

5 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

 

 

 

I aint the richest person, so i cant buy a new motherboard and a good intel CPU, (good reaction gif)

 

[Dash Lambda]

Just now, Chimras said:

I aint the richest person, so i cant buy a new motherboard and a good intel CPU, (good reaction gif)

What do you currently have?

[DunePilot]

Unless they knock the ball out of the park it will be too little too late to be much of a game changer. It will be a great refresher for up to date performance for the budget friendly AMD builds but it will continue the trend of lagging Intel. Hopefully it will have some kind of innovation that will spur a competitive response from Intel but with a release date this far out it already has drug on to the point where the main act isn't taking the stage until the whole crowd is drunk and ready to go home. 

[Dash Lambda]

1 minute ago, DunePilot said:

Unless they knock the ball out of the park it will be too little too late to be much of a game changer. It will be a great refresher for up to date performance for the budget friendly AMD builds but it will continue the trend of lagging Intel. Hopefully it will have some kind of innovation that will spur a competitive response from Intel but with a release date this far out it already has drug on to the point where the main act isn't taking the stage until the whole crowd is drunk and ready to go home. 

I wouldn't write them off yet.

We literally haven't seen anything useful, so we can't judge either side's upcoming generation. AMD is definitely putting more work into Zen than they have on any of their CPUs in a long time...

[DunePilot]

1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

I wouldn't write them off yet.

We literally haven't seen anything useful, so we can't judge either side's upcoming generation. AMD is definitely putting more work into Zen than they have on any of their CPUs in a long time...

I haven't written them off. I hope they come to impress. I do like what they're doing with their GPU line up. The R9 Fury gives the 980Ti a run for its money. I also hope they get their debt under control, coming from an investor and stock trader stand point.  

[Chimras]

7 hours ago, Dash Lambda said:

What do you currently have?

The CPU i have right now is really utdated, its the AMD x4 II Phenom 965, had it since i bought the parts for my PC so its my first CPU os its about 3 years old

[ZetZet]

8 minutes ago, Chimras said:

I aint the richest person, so i cant buy a new motherboard and a good intel CPU, (good reaction gif)

 

so what does that have to do with zen? You will need a new motherboard, new ram and new cpu.

[Dash Lambda]

2 minutes ago, DunePilot said:

I haven't written them off. I hope they come to impress. I do like what they're doing with their GPU line up. The R9 Fury gives the 980Ti a run for its money. I also hope they get their debt under control, coming from an investor and stock trader stand point.  

Well, the Fury X gives the 980ti a run for its money, but not the Fury. The Fury hovers just a little bit above the 980.