Wich Cpu would you recommend?

[SXTC]

I'm a heavy duty gamer that has the bad habbit to listen to online radio, have multiple websites open and have a virus scanner run in the background while playing an intensive game on ultra.

Wich processor would you recommend me knowing that I care about high FPS (I know the GPU is important too, I'll be going gtx980ti lightning for 1440p).

 

?

6700k

5820k

5930k

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(can't go higher since those cpu's are still too expensive)

 

I don't care wich one you recommend as long as it allows me to multitask without too much lag.

Keep in mind, I'm upgrading from Phenom X4 955 black edition, and I want the upgrade to last me another 5 years, and at the end of those 5 years I still expect to play at medium-high 30+ fps.

[iNoa97]

Probably the 6700k. Great for gaming. The 5820k also excels at video editing but don't get me wrong the 5820k also is great at gaming but for the multiple programs open at once, the 6700k will benefit you the most. If you want to multitask its more about the RAM than the CPU.

[Claryn]

Should probably go for a Xeon here. As long as you are using a discrete GPU, you will be able to get more performance for the price with a Xeon. You loose the iGPU, but you won't need it if you have a 980TI

[minibois]

probably the 5820K or 6700K. The 5930K is not much of use if you are not going for 2 or even more GPU's. 

If you are not going to to rendering or whatever while gaming, the 2 cores/4 threads more of the 5820K is probably really not going to help.

 

Would probably suggest the 6700K

[derrickd241]

Yea i'd also say the 6700k is gonna be your best bet, that's a lot of stuff to have running though.  Depending on how much ram you have I would suggest upgrading your ram too like 16gigs should be enough, I have 8 gigs and that would be impossible running all that on 8  good luck! #PCMasterRace

[jcw150]

I do the same stuff as you and went for the 5820k cause the extra cores and you can easily overclock it to 4.5GHz.

 

It works great.

[SXTC]

5 minutes ago, derrickd241 said:

Yea i'd also say the 6700k is gonna be your best bet, that's a lot of stuff to have running though.  Depending on how much ram you have I would suggest upgrading your ram too like 16gigs should be enough, I have 8 gigs and that would be impossible running all that on 8  good luck! #PCMasterRace

Seeing as I read the Ram takes some of the workload off the cpu, I'd go with either 16GB or 32GB (still have doubts about these 2). Because I've allready maxed out my 8GB use in the current build because of all the tools I keep running in the background (that and the fact that firefox sucks memory, but I love that search engine..)...

[minibois]

4 minutes ago, SXTC said:

Seeing as I read the Ram takes some of the workload off the cpu, I'd go with either 16GB or 32GB (still have doubts about these 2). Because I've allready maxed out my 8GB use in the current build because of all the tools I keep running in the background (that and the fact that firefox sucks memory, but I love that search engine..)...

You could always go for 2x8GB (so 16GB) and if you see you actually need (or can use) more you can get another 2x8GB kit. 

[SXTC]

16 minutes ago, jcw150 said:

I do the same stuff as you and went for the 5820k cause the extra cores and you can easily overclock it to 4.5GHz.

 

It works great.

I'm afraid to try that as I keep hearing people say that the voltage will degrade the cpu over time, making it slower until it fails eventualy... even sufficient cooling isn't going to help protect the cpu if you drive too many volts through it.. or at least that's what I keep reading.

And as I've mentioned I want it to NOT die within 5 years.

[jcw150]

1 minute ago, SXTC said:

I'm afraid to try that as I keep hearing people say that the voltage will degrade the cpu over time, making it slower until it fails eventualy... even sufficient cooling isn't going to help protect the cpu if you drive too many volts through it.. or at least that's what I keep reading.

I ran a 2600k from the beginning of 2012 to the beginning of 2016 for 4.7Ghz until 2014 and then 5Ghz so I doubt that it caused damage.

[crystal6tak]

If you want the maximum FPS possible (aka, as little CPU bottleneck as possible), 6700K + high speed RAM is the best option. Skylake scales surprisingly well with faster RAM in games (unlike previous generations). So this combination gives you the strongest per core performance right now.

 

I don't know how much you multitask. Obviously there's a certain point where the extra two cores of the 5820K will be useful. TBH, I don't know how much is needed to reach that kind of level. I own a 4790K, most intense I've done is have 15~ chrome tabs, photoshop, maya, vlc (playing music), and a word document open. So far I've constantly been hitting my RAM limit (8GB...getting another 8GB stick soon), and CPU is very chill. The multitasking potential of the 5820K is obviously better than the 6700K. But imo, it would be better to invest in an NVME SSD and more RAM to speed up multitasking.

 

There is however a possibility games will be more optimized in the future, like using DX12 or Vulcan for developers to more easily utilize more cores. If games reach 6 core utilization, the 5820K will completely blow 6700K out the water. However this is only a possibility, and for today, the 6700K + fast RAM is the way to go for games. So in a sense, this might relate to longevity. Today, the 6700K wins in games, in a few years, the 5820K may win in games. Who knows.

 

I hope this helps.

[Jumper118]

1 hour ago, SXTC said:

I'm afraid to try that as I keep hearing people say that the voltage will degrade the cpu over time, making it slower until it fails eventualy... even sufficient cooling isn't going to help protect the cpu if you drive too many volts through it.. or at least that's what I keep reading.

And as I've mentioned I want it to NOT die within 5 years.

It will be fine as long as it's under 80c and 1.3v.  To get a k sky cpu and not overclock it would be kind of pointless as you are not getting the full performance of what you are paying for. 

 

[SXTC]

I'm kinda scared to overclock cuss it needs to last 5 years... if it was pointless not to overclock, I wouldn't be here now 5 years later still playing games on Medium-High (although I want to move from medium-high 1080p to the ultra 1440p boat and last another 5 years).

 

If I see benchmarks I don't realy notice a lot of performance boosts with OC'd hardware... a few fps simlply aren't worth damaging my hardware over.

[crystal6tak]

1 minute ago, SXTC said:

I'm kinda scared to overclock cuss it needs to last 5 years... if it was pointless not to overclock, I wouldn't be here now 5 years later still playing games on Medium-High.

 

If I see benchmarks I don't realy notice a lot of performance boosts with OC'd hardware... a few fps simlply aren't worth damaging my hardware over.

That's unfortunate... The 5820K only runs at 3.3 (3.6 turbo) and they normally OC to 4.4~ so you're losing out on a ton of free performance. I'd say go with the 6700K then.

 

As to the fast RAM on skylake thing, I swear I saw a post saying minimum FPS improves. I can't seem to find any benchmark to back this up. So please take everything I said about fast ram and skylake and throw it out the window, sorry!

[SXTC]

I actualy know what you are talking about.. I saw a benchmark where 3200hz DDR4 vs 2133hz actualy gave you 8fps extra in some games while in others it won't matter. That benchmark claims that memory improved gameplay on games that rely on the CPU more.

 

Anyway, I'm not afraid to OC as long as you are fully certain I will not be raising it to a degree where it won't last 5 years. I'm thinking of going with a NH15 cooler btw.

[Darkseth]

There you go: 

 

Depending where you live, the 5820k + Board will be 150€ more (Like here in Germany. And maybe most in Europe. NA still should have overpriced 6700k prices)

As long you Game, and only small fishes are in the background (like Tabs, virus scan etc), the i7 6700k would be optimal.

High Clock speed, Core/Threads are ideal for Games right now and the next  Years, lower power consumption etc etc.

And the 5820k would just be wasted Money, for NO Benefit.

 

As long some heavy task comes in additional to Gaming (Video editing, Streaming etc), you will feel benefit from a 6-Core, like the 5820k

Keep in Mind: The 5820k is actually WORSE in pure Gaming, dua to its lower Clock speed, combined with a few % slower IPC. You will have to OC the 5820k to 4 Ghz, to match the i7 6700k in Gaming performance.

 

Except: You have a very heavy Load in the Background, then the i7 6700k with its 4 Cores will drop faster, than the 5820k.

 

 

5830k: Exakt same  CPU, just with more Lanes. As long you dont need 2 GTX 980 ti, and absolutely MUST have those 2% more Performance from x16/x16, instead x8/x8, you are Fine with the 5820k.

 

 

[smittywits]

On 2/15/2016 at 3:09 PM, SXTC said:

I'm afraid to try that as I keep hearing people say that the voltage will degrade the cpu over time, making it slower until it fails eventualy... even sufficient cooling isn't going to help protect the cpu if you drive too many volts through it.. or at least that's what I keep reading.

And as I've mentioned I want it to NOT die within 5 years.

If you're not overclocking don't bother with a "k" CPU. In your case, I'd take a look at some Xeon's. The E3-1270 v5 comes to mind here. You can usually find it in the low $300 price range(USD).

 

If that's not your taste, I'd consider whether you want the single core performance for gaming pre-DX12 or the multithreaded performance and POTENTIAL performance gains for later, after DX12 comes out. I do a fair bit of pro-sumer work and the multithreaded performance offered by the 5930k suited me better. I went with the 5930k over the 5820k due to it having more PCI lanes, which I'll be throwing a couple of SSDs and another GPU at. The 5820k will offer practically identical performance, even while overclocking, if you don't need/want the extra PCI lanes.

 

As you said overclocking wasn't your intent, I think going for a good old 6700(non-k) or Xeon will give you the most optimal performance. The 5820k would net you lower performance in gaming unless you overclock it.