Nvidia is evil?

[ivan134]

1 hour ago, Enderman said:

well gsync is better than freesync, so having proprietary hardware seems like its actually a benefit

and i dont have a gsync or freesync monitor, im quoting linus who has actually compared them side by side

he even did a test on the input lag of each a while ago

Bruh, that is prehistoric news.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/Nixeus-Vue-24-1080P-144Hz-TN-30-144Hz-FreeSync-Monitor-Review

[FruitBasketSilex]

2 hours ago, App4that said:

No, they're not evil.

 

/topic

 

@Godlygamer23   @WoodenMarker

Not evil, but quite douchey.

[ybriK]

Not evil just "unwanted" business practices... Other than that great products.

[Klerk]

No, definitely not evil. As a consumer I don't agree with the way they make everything proprietary but I understand why they do it. They spend a huge amount of resources to create the tech that they develop so there is nothing wrong if they want to take the full benefit of developing it. They need the income to support the company so they can continue developing new tech. The only problem is this limits the application of their tech since it is not standardized.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Also you gotta understand that even if a business is making questionable business decisions, that doesn't make their products shoddy right off the bat. And if you think a company's products are bad because of questionable business practices, that makes you totally ignorant or stupid. 

 

7 minutes ago, Klerk said:

No, definitely not evil. As a consumer I don't agree with the way they make everything proprietary but I understand why they do it. They spend a huge amount of resources to create the tech that they develop so there is nothing wrong if they want to take the full benefit of developing it. They need the income to support the company so they can continue developing new tech. The only problem is this limits the application of their tech since it is not standardized.

I agree with this guy above me. Yes I love Nvidia's products, but some of their decisions in the business sense is questionable (such as making most of, if not, all of GameWorks hurt AMD's performance of their GPUs to sell better.). I really believe that Nvidia's VXAO and VXGI are totally promising technologies and I do intend to use those in my games alongside PhysX for GPU-accelerated physics. For the hair physics and rendering, those will come from AMD, and that will be TressFX since that is easier on the hardware. And one more from AMD: FireRays (Yes my friends, raytraced games! However it will need to be seriously modified to get to run without a severe performance hit while adding CUDA support for Nvidia GPUs). Call me crazy, but I know it's possible 

[LokiFire]

Not saying i agree with NVIDIA here but AMD or was it ATi? well either refused to have PhysX from NVIDIA, they also are not much different to NVIDIA, they both don't like each other much like the shenanigans going on between AMD and intel back in the day.

 

All i can say is i hope we get games that perform fine on both hardware vendors, i remember trying to run Wolfenstein on my AMD 7770 it was a nightmare and had to settle with bad graphics with an up and down framerate whilst close performing NVIDIA GPU's would scream passed it with no issues.

[MiniSchnazer]

I don't think NVIDIA is evil. Strong word. As consumer I prefer the way AMD handles, some things. I think Hairworks is one example. I think they make good products, but I don't like to be locked in. And since AMD's market share is not good I am using 390, and not 970, and please don't start again about 390 vs 970...

[DarkSmith2]

Well, nothing to do with nvidia its just disgusting how you have to mod the hell out of the games to get better textures WHILE increasing performance.

Not long ago you had to spend ressources / performance to increase visual effects in games. Now you can download Fallout4/Batman AK/Witcher3 mods to double your framerates while having a 5000% better looking game.

 

Game developer just dont do there work in a lot of titles. Nvidia doesnt tell the developer of the game "hey yo build in more tesselation please, we want to screw AMD" or "Hey yo patch in even more stuff so our previous cards perform worse so that we can sell our new ones". This is absolute BS. How people even come to the idea that nvidia has that much influence on a game developer is ridiculous.

 

One of the best rumors is that NVIDIA screws drivers for older generation to degrade them which is proofed false information.

http://www.bytemedev.com/the-gtx-780-ti-sli-end-of-life-driver-performance-analysis/

[Coaxialgamer]

The clickb8 is strong with this post. 

[App4that]

7 hours ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

Not evil, but quite douchey.

Right, because you don't like them. That makes them bad. 

[FruitBasketSilex]

20 minutes ago, App4that said:

Right, because you don't like them. That makes them bad. 

Gameworks (just a total shitshow), proprietary hardware (Gsync, just a total fucking cash grab), endless patent infringement, sabotages own older cards to get you to buy new ones, smear attacks against their competition, NVIDIA optimus is a total joke, not allowing game devs to optimise gameworks for AMD cards.

 

I have no problem with NVidia, but they do act like dicks. Make no mistakes, I'll buy whatever's better regardless of the brand, I don't get behind the whole "OOH, OOH, COMPANY A, MY WAIFU" BS. I can already tell that you do, though not to a fanboy extent, because you're mad that you have a problem with the crimson driver and Xfiring a 390 and 290.

[App4that]

10 minutes ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

Gameworks (just a total shitshow), proprietary hardware (Gsync, just a total fucking cash grab), endless patent infringement, sabotages own older cards to get you to buy new ones, smear attacks against their competition, NVIDIA optimus is a total joke, not allowing game devs to optimise gameworks for AMD cards.

 

I have no problem with NVidia, but they do act like dicks. Make no mistakes, I'll buy whatever's better regardless of the brand, I don't get behind the whole "OOH, OOH, COMPANY A, MY WAIFU" BS. I can already tell that you do, though not to a fanboy extent, because you're mad that you have a problem with the crimson driver and Xfiring a 390 and 290.

Dude please. Quit this bull shit.

 

Look at Fallout 4, arguably runs better on AMD, Gameworks. Look at Rise of the Tomb Raider, runs the same on both, Gameworks. Look at Witcher 3, runs the same on both, sometimes better on AMD, Gameworks.

 

You know the sad thing about conspiracy theories? What they say about those who have them. 

[FruitBasketSilex]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

Dude please. Quit this bull shit.

 

Look at Fallout 4, arguably runs better on AMD, Gameworks. Look at Rise of the Tomb Raider, runs the same on both, Gameworks. Look at Witcher 3, runs the same on both, sometimes better on AMD, Gameworks.

 

You know the sad thing about conspiracy theories? What they say about those who have them. 

Hold on, got two more I forgot, pumping board mfgs for money for SLI certification, and forgot the second one after realizing you must not have even read past the first word in my post.

 

I'm sorry I said something that insulted your favorite GPU company, but its true. Does it mean I won't buy their cards? No. Does it mean that other people shouldn't buy their cards? No. Could they use a little more moral fiber? Yes.

[App4that]

5 minutes ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

Hold on, got two more I forgot, pumping board mfgs for money for SLI certification, and forgot the second one after realizing you must not have even read past the first word in my post.

 

I'm sorry I said something that insulted your favorite GPU company, but its true. Does it mean I won't buy their cards? No. Does it mean that other people shouldn't buy their cards? No. Could they use a little more moral fiber? Yes.

First off, I don't have a "favorite" 

 

The reason Nvidia "pumps" motherboard makers is to keep experiences like mine from happening. And my motherboard is SLI ready, it's not expensive. 

 

And I repeat, dude please.

 

AMD is just as guilty as Nvidia in their morality. Take a close enough look at any major company and you'd find the same. 

 

And wheres the lock on this topic? Notice you can beat Nvidia like a rental car but say one bad thing about AMD and in come the warning points?