which one !!

[SirWendall]

1 minute ago, abdo_king_ said:

i know, i will speed it up a bit for few weeks only until i get my build up and running just so i can freaking play some games until i do. 

Know how you feel  had to get a new motherboard a couple weeks ago

[abdo_king_]

1 minute ago, GamerMan said:

Know how you feel  had to get a new motherboard a couple weeks ago

will ok i'll freaking wait 

[SirWendall]

1 minute ago, abdo_king_ said:

will ok i'll freaking wait 

What kind of build do you have? :0

[abdo_king_]

19 minutes ago, GamerMan said:

What kind of build do you have? :0

nothing this will be my first. i could not build a pc because i didn't have enough money, so I (my DAD) bought this laptop until i do have the money to build my own  which was the stupidest thing ever to agree on because i could simply tell him to give me the cash so i can save for the pc , but i needed something mobile. and my dad was paying for it so why not JK  thanks to my dad because he bought this laptop or i would be died now for not enough game running in my blood 

[DarkSmith2]

1 hour ago, HKZeroFive said:

It's still inaccurate. The R9 390 is arguably better in most scenarios.

yea, more future proof and stuff if it doesnt melt within the first ten month right?

[SirWendall]

16 minutes ago, abdo_king_ said:

nothing this will be my first. i could not build a pc because i didn't have enough money, so I (my DAD) bought this laptop until i do have the money to build my own  which was the stupidest thing ever to agree on because i could simply tell him to give me the cash so i can save for the pc , but i needed something mobile. and my dad was paying for it so why not JK  thanks to my dad because he bought this laptop or i would be died now for not enough game running in my blood 

What's your budget?

[abdo_king_]

6 minutes ago, GamerMan said:

What's your budget?

almost a 1300 usd

[d0ntblink97]

970! I have a asus pg278Q 144HZ G-SYNC panel and I play AAA titles at 60 fps+. The only game that gives me issues is armored warfare which I turned down to high settings. I have the msi gaming 970 and under max load it gets around 65C which is decent and it isn't loud. For 1080p a 970 will kill everything.

[SirWendall]

Just now, abdo_king_ said:

almost a 1300 usd

Nice I'll throw you a build suggestion  check your inbox

[HKZeroFive]

18 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

yea, more future proof and stuff if it doesnt melt within the first ten month right?

Just get it with a good cooler and it'll last longer with its 8GB of VRAM as opposed to 3.5GB  

[SirWendall]

Just now, HKZeroFive said:

Just get it with a good cooler and it'll last longer with its 8GB of VRAM as opposed to 3.5GB  

Also depends on what features you like as well

[abdo_king_]

3 minutes ago, GamerMan said:

Also depends on what features you like as well

there's nothing in my inbox 

[SirWendall]

Just now, abdo_king_ said:

there's nothing in my inbox 

working on it

[HKZeroFive]

1 minute ago, GamerMan said:

Also depends on what features you like as well

Nah, I just like performance/price. Don't need GameWorks in my life.

[givegomezthegun]

You can argue which is better between the 970 and 390 all day(as evident by any post about these 2 on this forum) but the fact is they are both good cards, and truthfully you aren't going to really notice much of a difference between them.  

 

Between the 780(if you can still even find one) and the 970, I think the 970 is the clear winner.

[Ryoutarou97]

9 hours ago, abdo_king_ said:

thanks, but no

Err... why not? Also, I just realized I missed a space in that post and it is killing me.

[sushisharkjl]

9 hours ago, GamerMan said:

People usually don't OC their laptop GPUs

And with the new drivers (I think) it's impossible to.

 

Is sticking with the green team really such a priority? I don't get people like this - if something has better value for the money why would you not choose it instead? It's like Apple v. Android all over again... (go apple for the hardware + software integration)

 

Having said that, if you absolutely need the PhysX integration or CUDA then by all means, go nVidia. If not, go AMD. 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, sushisharkjl said:

And with the new drivers (I think) it's impossible to.

 

Is sticking with the green team really such a priority? I don't get people like this - if something has better value for the money why would you not choose it instead? It's like Apple v. Android all over again... (go apple for the hardware + software integration)

 

Having said that, if you absolutely need the PhysX integration or CUDA then by all means, go nVidia. If not, go AMD. 

Because there isn't a difference in value, only a perceived difference.

[sushisharkjl]

Just now, App4that said:

Because there isn't a difference in value, only a perceived difference.

Elaborate?

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, sushisharkjl said:

Elaborate?

The issue is consumers are trained to only consider one thing when making a purchase. It's easier on them so they accept the training, and easier on the retailer because they can focus their advertising. But reality doesn't work that way.

 

Everyone goes nuts over fps, but fps isn't the only thing to consider when deciding the value of something. Frame time is also crucial, and AMD has completely ignored frame time in their pursuit of fps. But even fps wise the 970 when overclocked can beat a overclocked 390 because of the headroom. A majority of the differences between the two cards are completely subjecting in their value, yet people like yourself decide based on their personal preference and decide on their opinion being fact, and use the normalcy of the one factor chosen to try and add validity to their claim.

 

The value of both is subjective, and as all the qualitative factors equal out, their value is left to person considering the purchase.

[sushisharkjl]

4 hours ago, App4that said:

The issue is consumers are trained to only consider one thing when making a purchase. It's easier on them so they accept the training, and easier on the retailer because they can focus their advertising. But reality doesn't work that way.

 

Everyone goes nuts over fps, but fps isn't the only thing to consider when deciding the value of something. Frame time is also crucial, and AMD has completely ignored frame time in their pursuit of fps. But even fps wise the 970 when overclocked can beat a overclocked 390 because of the headroom. A majority of the differences between the two cards are completely subjecting in their value, yet people like yourself decide based on their personal preference and decide on their opinion being fact, and use the normalcy of the one factor chosen to try and add validity to their claim.

 

The value of both is subjective, and as all the qualitative factors equal out, their value is left to person considering the purchase.

I understand the importance of frame time, but do you have a source as to where you get the information that AMD has neglected improving microstutter performance? From personal, empirical evidence, both brands are comparable in terms of daily use, and there are no benchmarks per se for measuring frame time AFAICT.

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, sushisharkjl said:

I understand the importance of frame time, but do you have a source as to where you get the information that AMD has neglected improving microstutter performance? From personal, empirical evidence, both brands are comparable in terms of daily use, and there are no benchmarks per se for measuring frame time AFAICT.

Wrong

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sushisharkjl]

3 minutes ago, App4that said:

Wrong

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dayum.

 

I've seen those lag spikes before but never given them much thought on my 390x. Thanks for enlightening me.