"IF" mobos had RAM internal

[ScottyC]

Random Idea/Possibility, What IF you could buy a Mobo with internal RAM (kinda like a gpu) with room for expansion.

 

 

For example you buy X- mobo with 16Gb of internal Ram with a max of 32Gb expanded, the Internal RAM would work faster on its own but be throttled to whatever the expansion Rams Speed is if people need more.

 

Im just picturing a ITX mobo with no DIMM slots with internal RAM or something crazy like that

[brighteyes890]

I can't really think of a good way that the RAM would work faster. The mobo could maybe be optimised a bit to make use of it but it would still be similar speed to current RAM surely? Cool idea though!

[AlTech]

16 minutes ago, ScottyC said:

Random Idea/Possibility, What IF you could buy a Mobo with internal RAM (kinda like a gpu) with room for expansion.

 

 

For example you buy X- mobo with 16Gb of internal Ram with a max of 32Gb expanded, the Internal RAM would work faster on its own but be throttled to whatever the expansion Rams Speed is if people need more.

 

Im just picturing a ITX mobo with no DIMM slots with internal RAM or something crazy like that

I know that Mobos have ROM. (read only memory).

[Samfisher]

18 minutes ago, ScottyC said:

Random Idea/Possibility, What IF you could buy a Mobo with internal RAM (kinda like a gpu) with room for expansion.

 

 

For example you buy X- mobo with 16Gb of internal Ram with a max of 32Gb expanded, the Internal RAM would work faster on its own but be throttled to whatever the expansion Rams Speed is if people need more.

 

Im just picturing a ITX mobo with no DIMM slots with internal RAM or something crazy like that

Sure, there won't be any DIMM slots, but the RAM chips still have to go somewhere... so it will still take an equivalent amount of space cos any smaller and heat might be an issue for chips so close together, especially if embedded into the mobo.

[FoxxyRin]

It seems a bit silly to me personally. There'd be no advantage except for  perhaps a slimmer motherboard profile. It would be around the same speed and such, and it would add another point of failure on the board and diagnosing memory problems a huge headache. Plus, if you end up with a random RAM issue, you can't just go RMA it and throw an old stick in temporarily. You'd have to pull out your entire motherboard and deal with no PC for a while.

[ScottyC]

Think about gpus tho guys. they got DDR5 or something and the inbuilt ram doesn't take up THAT much space, Rip out the DIMS and line up 12 RAM chips (approx number) where they used to be. . this is all in theory btw, It could just fail hopelessly 

 

 

Think about phones or any mobile device even, RAMs gotta go somewhere in those tiny things so why not have a decent slab of RAM on a mobo? 

[LogicalDrm]

The way current laptop mobos work. You have 8gb as base and can add another 8gb later. I'm pretty sure current thing with desktops is because people don't want to use soldered stuff and want more variability.

 

Another thought. What if soldered RAM becomes unstable or dies? You would need to replace whole mobo.

[Guest]

We have extreme modularity with PC's right now, but I definitely see that changing in the future. 

 

Form factor will become more of a prevalent/pressing issue when we achieve a certain threshold of performance - and we already see some of that today with the growth of the popularity of ITX systems. 

 

 

[Bhav]

I'd rather have upgradeable GPU and Vram sockets.

[JJOATz]

@ScottyC Graphics cards make use of GDDR5, and more recently HBM with HBM2 soon coming. Being somewhat inline with Alexokan, it will become standard (as in a standard) in time. It wasn't long ago when there was talk about Broadwell being a BGA (Ball Grid Array; soldered) component instead of a socket. It will happen when companies want to cut cost a lot and make things much smaller. Perhaps even more along the lines of disposable.

 

Likely, in time a computer will end up being around the size of an 5.25 inch drive (ODD). Everything will be BGA. The board would be comprised of current wireless standards (Wi-Fi, Li-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, etc), processor, system memory (RAM), graphics processor (if not on the processor die; considering this will be a good way into the future, integrated GPU may be quite advanced), VRAM (graphics memory), and possibly NVMe. Considering a standard 5.25 inch form factor (the modern day standard, not the original from yesteryear), there would be enough room for the power supply, and possibly room for more storage.

[carguy86]

Would be awesome to have even smaller mitx boards with 16gb of rab just soldered on to the board.

[Jumper118]

Would be the worst idea ever.  Then I would have to bin motherboards instead of ram and that would be expensive 

[lightningterror]

How about HBM2 that is used as cache for the cpu and also used as vram for the igpu. It could also be optional so if you want more performance you can just put one in, similar like m.2 functionality but even smaller in size. Normal ram would still be required tho.

 

Would that work?