970 vs 390x

[DeathTechs]

I have been looking up for these 2 cards every benchmark with diffrent cpus shows that the r9 390(x) wins with few more fps, but i'm really afraid

- nvidia gameworks

- nvidia physx

- nvidia slowing down amd cards

 should i be worried if i'm gonna upgrade from my 970 to 390x ( i still have return thingy for my gpu )

[Guest]

That would be a silly upgrade.

Save for a way better card like a 980ti.

[Fictionvl]

the upgrade isn't worth it honestly 

[don_svetlio]

Go for a 980 or Fury.

Nvidia GimpWorks screws over everyone

PhysX can run off the CPU just fine

Nvidia "abandons" their older gen products through planned obsolescence.

[xb0w]

that is a small upgrade

[DeathTechs]

i know it's a small upgrade but it's like i want more fps xD i'm fps horny guy hehe but i don't really mind to save the cash because then i can't return my 970 and get 100% cash back

[SteinerW]

Save up for a R9-Nano, or a GTX 980/980ti.

[SteinerW]

1 minute ago, 3DGamerOnSteam said:

Save up for a R9-Nano, or a GTX 980/980ti.

Unless you have to reture the card now, and can't wait to save money, the 390(x) is better.

[Matt_Twinkletoes]

8 minutes ago, DeathTechs said:

i know it's a small upgrade but it's like i want more fps xD i'm fps horny guy hehe but i don't really mind to save the cash because then i can't return my 970 and get 100% cash back

Have you tried overclocking your 970 yet? Also I don't think you want a microwave in your computer with a 390x..

[Dackzy]

wait for the new GPUs.

[VortexS]

40 minutes ago, DeathTechs said:

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390X will improve your fps, especially in texture hungry games, but a 970 is pretty good so depends if you want the trouble of switching.

I'd also recommend watching this, really objective and informative video about NVidia Gameworks (and what happens with both NVidia and AMD cards):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s

[DeathTechs]

Yea i watched that video before i posted this topic but will it be like 100% the games will try to give AMD gpu cards a chance?

that's why i'm afraid to buy amd cards aswell so it's like the safe choice nvidia risky but better AMD

[App4that]

1 hour ago, don_svetlio said:

Go for a 980 or Fury.

Nvidia GimpWorks screws over everyone

PhysX can run off the CPU just fine

Nvidia "abandons" their older gen products through planned obsolescence.

This again. Nvidia does not abandon their older cards as is evident by the 780ti offering similar performance in ROTTR to a Fury X.

[LokiFire]

Hey GUISE my GTX 580 is as fast as my VOODOO 3 thanks to NVIDIA stopping  the cards working with ABSOLESCENCE

 

HUE HUE HUE...

 

 

/s

[DXMember]

7 minutes ago, App4that said:

This again. Nvidia does not abandon their older cards as is evident by the 780ti offering similar performance in ROTTR to a Fury X.

 

AMD hasn't yet released a game ready driver yet, Fiji cards are experiencing huge frame time spikes every 5~6 seconds
and linking a game like Tomb Raider is just silly, look at the 2013 game it is a posterchild of performance and visual fidelity on PC, that game can run on a potatoe and perform good

Try Project Cars where 960 beats 780 and is on par with original Titan

[LokiFire]

10 minutes ago, App4that said:

This again. Nvidia does not abandon their older cards as is evident by the 780ti offering similar performance in ROTTR to a Fury X.

Look they gimped the 970 so much it can no longer even run Skyrim properly.

 

 

 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, DXMember said:

AMD hasn't yet released a game ready driver yet, Fiji cards are experiencing huge frame time spikes every 5~6 seconds
and linking a game like Tomb Raider is just silly, look at the 2013 game it is a posterchild of performance and visual fidelity on PC, that game can run on a potatoe and perform good

Try Project Cars where 960 beats 780 and is on par with original Titan

OK, first off this is going a bit off topic.

Second, look at the performance between the Kepler and Maxwell cards. 780ti between a 970 and 980, 780 less than 10 fps under the 780ti, and a 770 just under the 960.

Can we please not spread misinformation about the treatment of Kepler?

[DeathTechs]

18 minutes ago, App4that said:

This again. Nvidia does not abandon their older cards as is evident by the 780ti offering similar performance in ROTTR to a Fury X.

THIS IS WHY I'M SO WORRIED you see the 780ti out preform the fury x that's bullshit imo

this is why i'm worried to buy an 390x and replace my 970 g1 :(

[App4that]

Just now, DeathTechs said:

THIS IS WHY I'M SO WORRIED you see the 780ti out preform the fury x that's bullshit imo

this is why i'm worried to buy an 390x and replace my 970 g1 :(

With AMD it's always like this. Give it a few months and the AMD graphics cards might be beating the Nvidia cards.

But this is also just fps, as a person who has owned both recently you buy a Nvidia card for the features, and a AMD card for the fps performance.

But getting a 390x to replace a 970 is a bit silly. I'd save up for a 980/ti. Or give it a few months and see what happens with the new offerings.

[Jacona]

I'd wait 1 or 2 more generations for a meaningful upgrade. 

[DeathTechs]

So we say now for an example if i didn't build this pc yet ( but i have already ) would you guys go for 390x or 970

[App4that]

390x, no contest

[DeathTechs]

Alright thanks!

[Jahramika]

All you have to do is look at the difference between Amd and Nvidia to know the truth. Amd is a gnc card based more in hardware and drivers. Code for original gnc is basically the same as new gnc comes out. Nvidia is more based in drivers telling the GPU what to do. Takes a lot more driver code for Nvidia to work. Makes sense that after awhile Nvidia stops upgrading drivers for older  cards because it takes a lot of effort where not as much to keep older Amd gnc cards going.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Jahramika said:

All you have to do is look at the difference between Amd and Nvidia to know the truth. Amd is a gnc card based more in hardware and drivers. Code for original gnc is basically the same as new gnc comes out. Nvidia is more based in drivers telling the GPU what to do. Takes a lot more driver code for Nvidia to work. Makes sense that after awhile Nvidia stops upgrading drivers for older  cards because it takes a lot of effort where not as much to keep older Amd gnc cards going.

Not accurate at all. Older graphics cards from both companies are doing just fine. In respect to their architecture and performance provided. Pleas visit the evidence I provided.