860k bottleneck

[Mattsoup]

Will an 860k bottleneck a radeon 7950?

[i_build_nanosuits]

at 1080p gaming they are a good match.

[Mattsoup]

at 1080p gaming they are a good match.

 

My monitor is actually only 720p, so should I be good to run with some oc on the gpu?

[i_build_nanosuits]

My monitor is actually only 720p, so should I be good to run with some oc on the gpu?

At low resolution like that, the CPU will be your limiting factor in some games.

 

still...you should not worry about it if that is the 860K is the CPU you have and the HD7950 the best GPU you can afford then go for it. it will perform just fine they are equaly matched parts the CPU is lower-end and the GPU is low-mid rangeish so it'll do fine of course do not expect to run the latest most demanding games at 60FPS ultra details obviously that ain't happening on such hardware.

[RuLeZ]

Its fine, but should try some OC on the 860k.

[Mattsoup]

 

Its fine, but should try some OC on the 860k.

I ordered a cooler already

 

 

At low resolution like that, the CPU will be your limiting factor in some games.

 

still...you should not worry about it if that is the 860K is the CPU you have and the HD7950 the best GPU you can afford then go for it. it will perform just fine they are equaly matched parts the CPU is lower-end and the GPU is low-mid rangeish so it'll do fine of course do not expect to run the latest most demanding games at 60FPS ultra details obviously that ain't happening on such hardware.

 

I just want to play current stuff. I don't care what settings

[Prysin]

At low resolution like that, the CPU will be your limiting factor in some games.

 

still...you should not worry about it if that is the 860K is the CPU you have and the HD7950 the best GPU you can afford then go for it. it will perform just fine they are equaly matched parts the CPU is lower-end and the GPU is low-mid rangeish so it'll do fine of course do not expect to run the latest most demanding games at 60FPS ultra details obviously that ain't happening on such hardware.

my A10 7870k (Aka mildly OCd 860k) and HD 7950 says otherwise...

 

well they said... cuz i bricked my 7950

[KemoKa]

Obviously there will be a bottleneck, but it won't be so bad that it'll prevent you from playing games at that resolution. It'll actually do very well.

[i_build_nanosuits]

my A10 7870k (Aka mildly OCd 860k) and HD 7950 says otherwise...

 

well they said... cuz i bricked my 7950

yeah sure the 860K is a brutal 60$ powerhouse and when paired with a 2 generation old mid-range GPU it can run Crysis 3 on maximum settings 60FPS+ all day long, what was i thinking?

i wonder why people buy core i7 and 980ti then...strange.

[Prysin]

yeah sure the 860K is a brutal 60$ powerhouse and when paired with a 2 generation old mid-range GPU it can run Crysis 3 on maximum settings 60FPS+ all day long, what was i thinking?

i wonder why people buy core i7 and 980ti then...strange.

well... i said slightly OCd...

 

like 4.62Ghz slightly OCd....

 

fun fact:

Cinebench scores for my APU doesnt change more then 1 point going from stock to 4.62GHz...

 

gaming performance differs. but synth benches doesnt at all

[i_build_nanosuits]

well... i said slightly OCd...

 

like 4.62Ghz slightly OCd....

 

fun fact:

Cinebench scores for my APU doesnt change more then 1 point going from stock to 4.62GHz...

 

gaming performance differs. but synth benches doesnt at all

 

This is most likely because your overclock is not stable, it's stable enough so that there is no crash in the applications but the CPU spend so much time doing error correction that it negate the benefits of running the higher clockspeed.

[Prysin]

This is most likely because your overclock is not stable, it's stable enough so that there is no crash in the applications but the CPU spend so much time doing error correction that it negate the benefits of running the higher clockspeed.

well.... lets just say... its not the first time ive seen this happen with APUs...

 

was working on my mates 7850k... they dont really OC well.

frequencies goes up, synthetics doesnt reflect that.

 

honestly though... AMD did state at some point, that one of the tradeoffs to get better IPC in steamroller over piledriver, was overclocking.

perhaps this is what they meant.

 

the APUs scale up to 4.2-4.3Ghz, regardless of voltage. after that they usually go all "indifferent"

[Nena Trinity]

My 860K(NB: OCed to 2100MHz from 2000MHz) with GTX 960 does nice at 1280x1024 even when I use DSR!

[Jack Kaye Pc Gamer]

Will an 860k bottleneck a radeon 7950?

I have a 750k(worse than yours) and a r9 280x and in gta and just cause i cant get above 20% gpu usage as the cpu is bottlenecking so much

[Majestic]

I have a 750k(worse than yours) and a r9 280x and in gta and just cause i cant get above 20% gpu usage as the cpu is bottlenecking so much

 

Yup

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/chaostheory/2015/04/gtav/charts6/gtav_vhigh_cpu.png

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/chaostheory/2015/11/game_f4/charts4/f4_cpu_nv.png

[Biggerboot]

It will bottleneck on some games, but depending on your situation (if you're recycling the 7950), it may still not be a bad move.

 

I would not do it myself.

[flipped_bit]

At low resolution like that, the CPU will be your limiting factor in some games.

 

still...you should not worry about it if that is the 860K is the CPU you have and the HD7950 the best GPU you can afford then go for it. it will perform just fine they are equaly matched parts the CPU is lower-end and the GPU is low-mid rangeish so it'll do fine of course do not expect to run the latest most demanding games at 60FPS ultra details obviously that ain't happening on such hardware.

 

At low resolution like that, the CPU will be your limiting factor in some games.

 

still...you should not worry about it if that is the 860K is the CPU you have and the HD7950 the best GPU you can afford then go for it. it will perform just fine they are equaly matched parts the CPU is lower-end and the GPU is low-mid rangeish so it'll do fine of course do not expect to run the latest most demanding games at 60FPS ultra details obviously that ain't happening on such hardware.

 

Actually at 720p it wouldn't surprise me if he could hit 60fps at ultra on the most demanding games, at least in single player.  In multiplayer games the CPU will hold things back.

[Mattsoup]

As much as I enjoy starting arguments, can you guys just accept that you have different opinions?

[Shakaza]

As much as I enjoy starting arguments, can you guys just accept that you have different opinions?

Opinions? Where? As far as I can tell, @Majestic is attempting to prove a fact, not an opinion. He has every right to dispute what @Nena360 is saying since the distribution of false data and incorrect statements is not healthy in a community where we give others advice.

[Mattsoup]

Opinions? Where? As far as I can tell, @Majestic is attempting to prove a fact, not an opinion. He has every right to dispute what @Nena360 is saying since the distribution of false data and incorrect statements is not healthy in a community where we give others advice.

 

That's not exactly what I meant, I just came into this and skimmed everything.  I wasn't aware of the full situation.

[Shakaza]

That's not exactly what I meant, I just came into this and skimmed everything.  I wasn't aware of the full situation.

Ah, I think I know what you mean. However, despite that this argument slightly goes away from the original intent of the discussion, it needs to happen. If we let false information perpetuate the forum unopposed, we've already lost. These lies masquerade as truth, and with nothing to oppose them, they become incredibly difficult to discern from the truth, especially for less tech savvy people. And since people's hard-earned money is involved, it is unfair to them for us to give them anything less than the best.

 

Of course, this isn't to say there is never a reason to choose AMD. People like @Prysin, for example, have excellent arguments that show how AMD is on par, or rarely, favored, in certain scenarios. He also has plenty of his own data that he gathered to determine at what point bottlenecks will occur. His posts definitely have a pro-AMD slant, but he is in no way a fanboy.

[Majestic]

I'm not arguing against all AMD purchases. But for gaming they're objectively worse value, on all budgets.

[Mattsoup]

I'm not arguing against all AMD purchases. But for gaming they're objectively worse value, on all budgets.

 

I just get mad that games like Fallout 4 have stupid shit like god rays to intentionally give nvidia an edge

[Prysin]

I'm not arguing against all AMD purchases. But for gaming they're objectively worse value, on all budgets.

not haswell i3 vs FX 6300 or Athlon X4 860k vs G3258.

 

in those cases, AMD has a valid, provable benefit if going on the cheap.

 

AMD really "caps out" at the i5 4460.

below the i5 4460, AMD is VERY viable. Beyond it, you are tossing money in the sink.

[Majestic]

not haswell i3 vs FX 6300 

 

Yes the G3258 is shit. But at that point you drop below the "sweet spot" and then everything is shit. Including the (better) 860K.

 

i3-4130 abd FX-6300 trade blows, with intel taking the lead in consoleports and IPC heavy games. But with the Skylake 6100 being as good as a 2500K, even that budget is taken by intel now.