Stock Intel cooler OC

[lilwic]

I just want to know around how much of an overclock i will safely be able to do with a stock intel cpu cooler. I have an i5 4690k devils canyon btw.

[don_svetlio]

None. Stock cooler usually has very bad temps and it can barely keep an i5 cool whereas it fails to properly cool i7s

[TheRandomness]

What CPU? If it isn't the pentium, don't overclock with the stock cooler.

[lilwic]

What CPU? If it isn't the pentium, don't overclock with the stock cooler.

ok then, well thanks for the info

[azurezeed]

Don't oc with the stock cooler, just don't

[Unhelpful]

None. Stock cooler usually has very bad temps and it can barely keep an i5 cool whereas it fails to properly cool i7s

You can usually get a few hundred MHz. They actually aren't all that terrible. I got 3.8GHz on my 3770k with stock cooler (not using it anymore). And it only hit 78C. A build I made for my friend has a 4690k and a stock cooler OC'd to 3.9GHz.

 

You can do a little bit with a stock cooler. Not much. But you can.

 

Edit: Especially if you have some replacement thermal paste.

 

Edit2: It is quite loud though. And I would recommend grabbing a different cooler. But you ARE able to OC with the stock cooler.

[Unhelpful]

I just want to know around how much of an overclock i will safely be able to do with a stock intel cpu cooler. I have an i5 4690k devils canyon btw.

If you want to know for yourself instead of listening to people's mostly unfounded assumptions, actually try it. Just watch the voltage.

[Guest]

None. Stock cooler usually has very bad temps and it can barely keep an i5 cool whereas it fails to properly cool i7s

*casually overclock'd to 4.7GHz on 4790k w/ adequate temps* 

Stop spreading false rumors please, it doesn't do the best but you can overclock.

[MageTank]

*casually overclock'd to 4.7GHz on 4790k w/ adequate temps* 

Stop spreading false rumors please, it doesn't do the best but you can overclock.

4.7ghz 4790k on stock cooler? I'd pay to see that.

[don_svetlio]

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You can usually get a few hundred MHz. They actually aren't all that terrible. I got 3.8GHz on my 3770k with stock cooler (not using it anymore). And it only hit 78C. A build I made for my friend has a 4690k and a stock cooler OC'd to 3.9GHz.

 

You can do a little bit with a stock cooler. Not much. But you can.

 

Edit: Especially if you have some replacement thermal paste.

 

Edit2: It is quite loud though. And I would recommend grabbing a different cooler. But you ARE able to OC with the stock cooler.

Ivy are able to as they are a cooler-running than Haswell.

[don_svetlio]

4.7ghz 4790k on stock cooler? I'd pay to see that.

You and me both.

[Unhelpful]

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Ivy are able to as they are a cooler-running than Haswell.

And I've still done decent OC's with acceptable temps on haswell... Sorry you are just kinda wrong here. You are underestimating the stock cooler. The main downside to it is that it's loud as hell.

[don_svetlio]

And I've still done decent OC's with acceptable temps on haswell...

Considering most people advise against going over 75*C I don't really see that as adequate for long-term usage.

[Guest]

4.7ghz 4790k on stock cooler? I'd pay to see that.

 

 

You and me both.

I'll get around to it and I'll both PM you two.

[Unhelpful]

Considering most people advise against going over 75*C I don't really see that as adequate for long-term usage.

My friends 4690k (and my sisters 4690k) are both at around 71C, mine was 78c, but that was primarily due to other fucking awful environments. With a hyper 212 its about 47 idle 

 

You are underestimating the stock cooler by a significant margin and showing that you have no experience attempting to OC with it. It garbage. But only because of sound. Of course a $20 cooler will be better, but it's actually not too bad.

 

Also these are all with Aida64. The actual operating temps are MUCH lower.

 

Edit: Actually my 3770k stock test was with Prime95.

[don_svetlio]

My friends 4690k (and my sisters 4690k) are both at around 71C, mine was 78c, but that was primarily due to other fucking awful environments. With a hyper 212 its about 47 idle 

 

You are underestimating the stock cooler by a significant margin and showing that you have no experience attempting to OC with it. It garbage. But only because of sound. Of course a $20 cooler will be better, but it's actually not too bad.

 

Also these are all with Aida64. The actual operating temps are MUCH lower.

 

Edit: Actually my 3770k stock test was with Prime95.

I've seen quite a few people report temps upward of 85*C with the stock cooler on a 4790K

[Unhelpful]

I've seen quite a few people report temps upward of 85*C with the stock cooler on a 4790K

I've seen quite a few people fail to mount coolers properly. 

 

You clearly have no experience with it. Second-hand experience is nearly worthless.

[don_svetlio]

I've seen quite a few people fail to mount coolers properly. 

 

You clearly have no experience with it. Second-hand experience is nearly worthless.

I have used it for around 4 months then swapped it for an Arctic Freezer 13 as 65-70*C made me uncomfortable.

[grayperview]

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Ivy are able to as they are a cooler-running than Haswell.

Ivy's are hotter than haswell, by a fair bit, i have just come from a 3770k clocked at 4.4ghz on 1.280v and it was in the mid 70's on an h100i. 

 

My devils canyon runs on 1.180v @4.4ghz in the mid 50's low 60's.

[ITS-PARTY-TIME]

4.7ghz 4790k on stock cooler? I'd pay to see that.

yeah

id pay for the chip can do it with voltage that wouldnt cause throttling

[ITS-PARTY-TIME]

Ivy's are hotter than haswell, by a fair bit, i have just come from a 3770k clocked at 4.4ghz on 1.280v and it was in the mid 70's on an h100i. 

 

My devils canyon runs on 1.180v @4.4ghz in the mid 50's low 60's.

big voltage difference

[don_svetlio]

Ivy's are hotter than haswell, by a fair bit, i have just come from a 3770k clocked at 4.4ghz on 1.280v and it was in the mid 70's on an h100i. 

 

My devils canyon runs on 1.180v @4.4ghz in the mid 50's low 60's.

My friend with an intel stock cooler on a 3770 had temps of around 60*C. Bad mounting on your part.

[MageTank]

My friends 4690k (and my sisters 4690k) are both at around 71C, mine was 78c, but that was primarily due to other fucking awful environments. With a hyper 212 its about 47 idle 

 

You are underestimating the stock cooler by a significant margin and showing that you have no experience attempting to OC with it. It garbage. But only because of sound. Of course a $20 cooler will be better, but it's actually not too bad.

 

Also these are all with Aida64. The actual operating temps are MUCH lower.

 

Edit: Actually my 3770k stock test was with Prime95.

Let's talk about experience overclocking with stock coolers. I own a G3258, my brother owns a 4690k, i own a G4400, and a Core i5 6600T. G3258 made it to roughly 4.5ghz, voltage wall, no issues with heat because its a pentium and lacks AVX/FMA3. Same with the Pentium G4400. 4.75ghz, 86C peak under Prime95 load, still on stock cooler. 6600T, while an i5, was not too bad, because non-K Skylake CPU's lose AVX when you overclock them. Made prime95 bearable, but it hit 90C at 4.3ghz 1.35v. This is without FIVR, which adds another 10-15w of heat on CPU's. Now, lets talk 4690k. On stock cooler, with no overclock, you will be dangerously close to thermal junction temperatures when running Prime95. Let me repeat that. Stock cooler non-overclocked 4690k on prime95, dangerously close to TJ max. 

 

Let's humor the masses, and try a less stressful test, shall we? Intel XTU. People like this test. Uses a less stressful version of Linpack, still AVX, but nowhere near as stressful as prime. 87C after the 15 minute test. Stock cooler, non-overclocked. Sure, let's blame thermal paste. Probably the stock paste. Nope. That was after MX-4, and proper application (I've been doing this for years, trust me). So i kicked the stress down to a gaming load. GTA 5, still hit 70-72C.

 

Now, my brother's case is not the best case. It was $40 at the time of purchase (Rosewill Challenger) but it is by no means bad to the point in which it would cause temps to get that bad on Prime95. The stock cooler is to blame. It's physics for gods sake. The cooler has a rated TDP of 95w. The CPU's themselves are 84-88w (depending on who you ask) and if you use AVX, you are adding 50w of heat in the mix from the get go. 

 

You calling someone inexperienced is ironic, because the rest of the world begs to differ with your results. Show me an overclocked 4690k not throttling on stock cooler during a stress test, and i'll eat my words. 

[grayperview]

My friends 4690k (and my sisters 4690k) are both at around 71C, mine was 78c, but that was primarily due to other fucking awful environments. With a hyper 212 its about 47 idle 

 

You are underestimating the stock cooler by a significant margin and showing that you have no experience attempting to OC with it. It garbage. But only because of sound. Of course a $20 cooler will be better, but it's actually not too bad.

 

Also these are all with Aida64. The actual operating temps are MUCH lower.

 

Edit: Actually my 3770k stock test was with Prime95.

 

My old 3770k used to reach close to 90c with the stock cooler on, and it was not over-clocked, this was using Arctic silver 5, the game sleeping dogs nearly killed my 3770k as it ran at over 100c whilst playing that game.

 

The stock cooler was badly shite for me.

 

Unless you have a chip that over-clocks on seriously low voltage (there are some out there) i would not over-clock with an Intel stock cooler.

[grayperview]

big voltage difference

yes there is a big voltage difference, if i run my devils canyon at 1.280v at say 4.7ghz the temps are still only in the mid 60's.

 

Ivy's are very hot chips, seriously good though, I miss mine.