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with amd shares being so low (jan 9 2016= $2.14)...you think it would be a wise investment to invest 2000$ 

with am4 coming and gpuopen and new gpu's coming this year...I can't imagine the stock going anywhere but up from here

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Zen was their most expensive R&D, right?

Pretty sure they don't publish how much they spend on each project, so we don't know how expensive it was.

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Zen was their most expensive R&D, right?

well and loss with bulldozer

like, 6 years of development, 5 years of faildozer

Nvidia has insane amout of market share right now

 

you dont need any speculation that amd will get on its feet. if amd shares are now rock bottom, the only speculation i can give that it may go down little more or not and then go up above what it is now.

 

but shares are speculation... so zen and polaris is taking into account right now in price of shares? so if shares had real price now... would it be negative number? xD

 

Disclamer: I have no idea about shares.

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..anyone else :unsure:

I'll put it this way, if you cannot afford to lose that $2000, then DO NOT invest in AMD.

I personally think that they will come back and their stock will rise quite a bit after Zen launches, but I wouldn't risk $2000 on it unless that was "play money' and I would be okay if it was all lost.

It depends on:

1. How important is that money

2. Why you are investing - eg to make money or to support AMD

3. What kind of risk you are comfortable with

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well and loss with bulldozer

like, 6 years of development, 5 years of faildozer

Nvidia has insane amout of market share right now

you dont need any speculation that amd will get on its feet. if amd shares are now rock bottom, the only speculation i can give that it may go down little more or not and then go up above what it is now.

but shares are speculation... so zen and polaris is taking into account right now in price of shares? so if shares had real price now... would it be negative number? xD

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Welp, what if Zen will be a total failure and AMD will go bankrupt because of it?

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Welp, what if Zen will be a total failure and AMD will go bankrupt because of it?

As an investor, you'd likely get screwed.

 

At best, AMD get's bought by another company, likely at a heavy discount - as a shareholder, you might get your shares bought out at a reduced price. You'd likely still lose money.

 

Other possible alternatives include AMD's assets and IP being auctioned off piecemeal, one at a time or in small groups, to pay creditors. Or they could simply go belly up and disappear.

 

At worst, you could lose everything - all stocks and investment.

 

I rather think that a single company will swing in and buy them before that happens though - or possibly arrange with a 2nd company to split up the CPU vs GPU assets.

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As an investor, you'd likely get screwed.

 

At best, AMD get's bought by another company, likely at a heavy discount - as a shareholder, you might get your shares bought out at a reduced price. You'd likely still lose money.

 

Other possible alternatives include AMD's assets and IP being auctioned off piecemeal, one at a time or in small groups, to pay creditors. Or they could simply go belly up and disappear.

 

At worst, you could lose everything - all stocks and investment.

 

I rather think that a single company will swing in and buy them before that happens though - or possibly arrange with a 2nd company to split up the CPU vs GPU assets.

moral of the story, buy one stock :D

 

then if Zen succeeds, you can go celebrate in mcdonalds

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moral of the story, buy one stock :D

 

then if Zen succeeds, you can go celebrate in mcdonalds

Well if you have, say $10000 to invest in stocks, then dropping $2000 on AMD stocks in a lot less of a risk, since you're only risking 20% of your starting capital. You can put the other $8000 into a more diverse portfolio that has much lower risk and uncertainty.

 

And of course, you can scale that. If @techguru has $2000 to invest, then maybe take $200 of that and dump it into AMD stock.

 

If you invest $200 into AMD, and their stock price explodes after Zen is released (say $5/share), then your $200 turns into almost $1000. And if their stock crashes, or stays neutral, then you've at worst, only lost $200.

 

 

...

 

 

I might drop a few hundred $$ into AMD. I used to own about $100 worth of shares back during the height of the bulldozer days - I bought shares at around ~$2/share and sold at a little over ~$3/share - not huge profits, but I came out ahead of where I started.

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Well if you have, say $10000 to invest in stocks, then dropping $2000 on AMD stocks in a lot less of a risk, since you're only risking 20% of your starting capital. You can put the other $8000 into a more diverse portfolio that has much lower risk and uncertainty.

 

And of course, you can scale that. If @techguru has $2000 to invest, then maybe take $200 of that and dump it into AMD stock.

 

If you invest $200 into AMD, and their stock price explodes after Zen is released (say $5/share), then your $200 turns into almost $1000. And if their stock crashes, or stays neutral, then you've at worst, only lost $200.

 

 

...

 

 

I might drop a few hundred $$ into AMD. I used to own about $100 worth of shares back during the height of the bulldozer days - I bought shares at around ~$2/share and sold at a little over ~$3/share - not huge profits, but I came out ahead of where I started.

i think zen is actually safe bet.

 

6c/6t Zen will be competitive to i5`s. thats all AMD needs to sell really. they would really had to Fk up big time.

i mean like, broken hyperthreading, scheduling issues, very leaky chips, only <25% IPC improv. over carizzo some stuff like that.

 

they have chips out tho. done. baked. no significant bottlenecks. latency issues fixed. more power. thats all you need.

but they have extra. so...

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