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Cost of Watercooling and Maintenance?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I have a Phantek Enthoo Primo and currently am air cooling it but my plan is to watercool is as it has great rad support I think 5. This birthday coming up is a golden one so it means one of a kind amounts of money. It doesn't happen until summer so I still have time for Polaris and Pascal to get things churning. My budget is $2,500 with all water cooling components and a new baller PC. I will probably reuse my PSU, Hard drives, SSD, and maybe my GTX980ti if Polaris or Pascal don't wreck it too hard. Or get another one for SLI. Anyways I was thinking the whole water cooling system all from EK would cost around $500-$600. I might be wrong but that still leaves nice room for a good PC. Also how often do you need to change coolant and do custom loops leak alot? I am going to be using compression fittings on everything I can with soft tubing.

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I have a Phantek Enthoo Primo and currently am air cooling it but my plan is to watercool is as it has great rad support I think 5. This birthday coming up is a golden one so it means one of a kind amounts of money. It doesn't happen until summer so I still have time for Polaris and Pascal to get things churning. My budget is $2,500 with all water cooling components and a new baller PC. I will probably reuse my PSU, Hard drives, SSD, and maybe my GTX980ti if Polaris or Pascal don't wreck it too hard. Or get another one for SLI. Anyways I was thinking the whole water cooling system all from EK would cost around $500-$600. I might be wrong but that still leaves nice room for a good PC. Also how often do you need to change coolant and do custom loops leak alot? I am going to be using compression fittings on everything I can with soft tubing.

Coolant depends on which one but around 6 months to a year and it won't leak if you're careful and check it often for the first week.

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I have a Phantek Enthoo Primo and currently am air cooling it but my plan is to watercool is as it has great rad support I think 5. This birthday coming up is a golden one so it means one of a kind amounts of money. It doesn't happen until summer so I still have time for Polaris and Pascal to get things churning. My budget is $2,500 with all water cooling components and a new baller PC. I will probably reuse my PSU, Hard drives, SSD, and maybe my GTX980ti if Polaris or Pascal don't wreck it too hard. Or get another one for SLI. Anyways I was thinking the whole water cooling system all from EK would cost around $500-$600. I might be wrong but that still leaves nice room for a good PC. Also how often do you need to change coolant and do custom loops leak alot? I am going to be using compression fittings on everything I can with soft tubing.

 

Only had 2 leaks, only minor, one was a weeping seal on a rotary fitting spotted in leak test stage, the other was a fill port plug not sealing.I change my fluid when making changes to the loop, in terms of maintenance, cleaning your rads of dust is like cleaning a heat sink and swapping your coolant is a yearly process.

 

Don't mix silver with nickel plated blocks btw, or copper sulphate.

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I have a Phantek Enthoo Primo and currently am air cooling it but my plan is to watercool is as it has great rad support I think 5. This birthday coming up is a golden one so it means one of a kind amounts of money. It doesn't happen until summer so I still have time for Polaris and Pascal to get things churning. My budget is $2,500 with all water cooling components and a new baller PC. I will probably reuse my PSU, Hard drives, SSD, and maybe my GTX980ti if Polaris or Pascal don't wreck it too hard. Or get another one for SLI. Anyways I was thinking the whole water cooling system all from EK would cost around $500-$600. I might be wrong but that still leaves nice room for a good PC. Also how often do you need to change coolant and do custom loops leak alot? I am going to be using compression fittings on everything I can with soft tubing.

 

Around $500 is about right to start a good quality loop for dual GPU's your might be closer to $600 or so starting. As for fluid changes it's recommended to do them every 6 -12months, usually closer to 12months or if you see issues with the fluid. Leaks aren't common once you put the loop together and do a preliminary leak test if nothing occurs then it's unlikely one will appear. 

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I flush the coolent in my loop every 6 months. If you use distilled water with a biocide then you could probably stretch that a good bit.

I use colored coolent so I change it every 6 months. I also take the blocks apart once a year to clean out any buildup.

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I flush the coolent in my loop every 6 months. If you use distilled water with a biocide then you could probably stretch that a good bit.

I use colored coolent so I change it every 6 months. I also take the blocks apart once a year to clean out any buildup.

What would be the reason to change the fluid and build up of what?

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What would be the reason to change the fluid and build up of what?

 

Soft tubing even plasticizer free will break down or fog overtime and gunk up the fins of waterblocks which need cleaning out every so often. Usually it's fairly noticeable since there will be a rise in temps for the loop.

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My full custom loop for two gpu's cost 900 USD even without EK radiators (alphacool is much cheaper).

 

After the first year, I'd expect yearly maintenance would be less than 50-80 USD since coolant is cheap, and tubing is as well.

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My full custom loop for two gpu's cost 900 USD even without EK radiators (alphacool is much cheaper).

 

After the first year, I'd expect yearly maintenance would be less than 50-80 USD since coolant is cheap, and tubing is as well.

Are the benefits that good to justify 900 USD?

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Are the benefits that good to justify 900 USD?

ehh, honestly probably not. I wanted to do it, so I did. I haven't finished it yet, but I can't kid myself that it will magically change anything of my system.

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ehh, honestly probably not. I wanted to do it, so I did. I haven't finished it yet, but I can't kid myself that it will magically change anything of my system.

Well I will probably some day. When I finish college well I'll take that $900 and get use full SSDs as my storage

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What would be the reason to change the fluid and build up of what?

Like the person above said the tubing can break down. There can also be corrosion and biological growth. Also with colored coolent partials can fall out of suspention.

Just look at the disaster that was whole room watercooling.

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Like the person above said the tubing can break down. There can also be corrosion and biological growth. Also with colored coolent partials can fall out of suspention.

Just look at the disaster that was whole room watercooling.

Yeah that creature they spawned in the res

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Well I will probably some day. When I finish college well I'll take that $900 and get use full SSDs as my storage

Yea... outside of my photos and videos I'm already full SSD. So the next step was this. It's definitely something I'm proud to be doing, and perhaps given my personal situation it will be something I keep doing, but "worth" isn't something you can call this sort of endeavor.

 

I tend to think of it like owning a car and spending money tricking it out because you want to. Same idea. Is putting aftermarket turbo and spoilers on a car worth it? Fuck no. Is it fun? Fuck yes.

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You can build a pretty cheap loop if you buy smart and only used stuff.

 

Maintenence? If you do the loop properly, pretty much zero.

I can drain my loop, change a VGA or something, fill it and bleed it in 10 minutes. 

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Just look at the disaster that was whole room watercooling.

Yeah, that entire time I thought that they needed a better plan for the piping in their room. Brazing metals doesn't make perfect seals, and there would be perpetual on and off leaKS throughout their loop. Luckily it didn't last enough for that.
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Are the benefits that good to justify 900 USD?

 

Silence and better heat dispersion. I couldn't hit 5ghz with my rig without watercooling.

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With a premix I would clear it out every 6 months and anticipate replacing the tubing often as well. With distilled and biocide about 1-2 years with tubing. If you use rotary fittings they may need changing every couple of years as well.

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With a premix I would clear it out every 6 months and anticipate replacing the tubing often as well. With distilled and biocide about 1-2 years with tubing. If you use rotary fittings they may need changing every couple of years as well.

 

Really? how come? I have rotary fittings since my first build of my loop back in 2014, still going strong?

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Really? how come? I have rotary fittings since my first build of my loop back in 2014, still going strong?

They have a tendency to gain leaks over the long term, the seals just degrade in the rotary part. If you have any form of stress pushing them one way they fail a lot faster than if they are relatively perfectly aligned. Its something you should cost for if you use them and the future costs are going to be a problem but in itself its not a massive maintenance issue its just one of those small things as a 10+ year customer watercooler I have seen fail more often than one might expect.

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They have a tendency to gain leaks over the long term, the seals just degrade in the rotary part. If you have any form of stress pushing them one way they fail a lot faster than if they are relatively perfectly aligned. Its something you should cost for if you use them and the future costs are going to be a problem but in itself its not a massive maintenance issue its just one of those small things as a 10+ year customer watercooler I have seen fail more often than one might expect.

Really? how come? I have rotary fittings since my first build of my loop back in 2014, still going strong?

 

Rotary fittings have an oring and locking clip that hold that rotatable section together, the oring can degrade overtime so changing them may be needed. If you have a tools and know how you can take them apart at that rotary section and replace the oring and locking clip as needed also. That can be very difficult on some fittings however due to tight tolerances. 

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Rotary fittings have an oring and locking clip that hold that rotatable section together, the oring can degrade overtime so changing them may be needed. If you have a tools and know how you can take them apart at that rotary section and replace the oring and locking clip as needed also. That can be very difficult on some fittings however due to tight tolerances. 

 

Ah I see, mine are cheap ones so will probably just replace them. I'm going with hardline tubing once my Advanced LRT runs out anyway.

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Ah I see, mine are cheap ones so will probably just replace them. I'm going with hardline tubing once my Advanced LRT runs out anyway.

Does hardline break down?

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Ah I see, mine are cheap ones so will probably just replace them. I'm going with hardline tubing once my Advanced LRT runs out anyway.

Does hardline break down?

 

Yeah rotary fittings do add points of failure since there is an extra seal required, I acutally didn't know they went together like that until I pulled on one that had  lot of slop in it which was quite interesting.

 

As for hardline tubing, itself no it doesn't break down like soft tube where it can fog or potentially gunk up the loop.

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Yeah rotary fittings do add points of failure since there is an extra seal required, I acutally didn't know they went together like that until I pulled on one that had  lot of slop in it which was quite interesting.

 

As for hardline tubing, itself no it doesn't break down like soft tube where it can fog or potentially gunk up the loop.

So if I went hardline would I have to change fluid at all?

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