My First Build, again

[elBarto]

Hey guys i was planning my build and i wanted to know what you guys think

 

CPU i5 4460

GPU R9 380 4GB

RAM G.SKILL 8GB 1600

Mobo MSI H97 Gaming 3

PSU CS 550W

BOX CM Elite 430 (3.1)

Storage 1TB blue

[kameshss]

Seems decent except tat psu.

 

PCPP link possible?

[Morgan MLGman]

Change the PSU to a XFX TS 550W.

[Swndlr]

Might not wanna get that case, kinda low quality.

[Senzelian]

Change the PSU to a XFX TS 550W.

Because the XFX TS 550w is the only PSU that exists on the market, right?

[elBarto]

@kameshss sry i didn'd made it in the PCPP

[elBarto]

@Swundrl what do you reccomend by about 50 euros

[fire219]

Looks pretty good except for the PSU, which is a bit underpowered. Maybe get something in the 550-600W range?

[kameshss]

@kameshss sry i didn'd made it in the PCPP

temme ur budget.

 

And I'll see if I can make a better build in that budget.

[elBarto]

ok thanks @Morgan MLGman

[elBarto]

i put all this in about 600 euros with some sales @kameshss

[Morgan MLGman]

Because the XFX TS 550w is the only PSU that exists on the market, right?

Because it's the cheapest, quality unit in 90% of cases.

[Fulgrim]

Because the XFX TS 550w is the only PSU that exists on the market, right?

It's a quality OEM unit from Seasonic if i recall correctly.

[Senzelian]

Because it's the cheapest, quality unit in 90% of cases.

In 90% of cases? So you know every price of every single PSU in every single country right now and you also know in which country OP lives without even asking him? That's skill...

 

It's a quality OEM unit from Seasonic if i recall correctly.

 

I'm not saying it's a bad PSU, but I critique Morgan's recommendation. It's very biased to only recommend one product.

[elBarto]

I prefer modular but it's good too @Morgan MLGman

[kameshss]

Look into buying this one!

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£155.00 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£59.99 @ Aria PC) 

Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.98 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  (£264.97 @ Aria PC) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£56.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£66.96 @ Aria PC) 

Total: £638.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-13 15:51 GMT+0000

[elBarto]

 

Look into buying this one!

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£155.00 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£59.99 @ Aria PC) 

Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.98 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  (£264.97 @ Aria PC) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£56.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£66.96 @ Aria PC) 

Total: £638.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-13 15:51 GMT+0000

 

ok thanks

[kameshss]

ok thanks

Sorry it's in british pounds. my mistake.

[kameshss]

ok thanks

Close to your money budget. In euro

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€235.87 @ Mindfactory) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€86.80 @ Mindfactory) 

Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card  (€193.44 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€83.36 @ Mindfactory) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 

Total: €649.37

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-13 16:54 CET+0100

[elBarto]

@kameshss i'm from portugal so i can't buy things from there

[Fulgrim]

I'm not saying it's a bad PSU, but I critique Morgan's recommendation. It's very biased to only recommend one product.

Well, there's nothing wrong with recommending that unit overall tbh. But i see your reasoning, i hate the fanboyism for the 212 EVO cooler, which has been recommended left, right & center for so long on this forum for so long.

[Morgan MLGman]

In 90% of cases? So you know every price of every single PSU in every single country right now and you also know in which country OP lives without even asking him? That's skill...

 

 

I'm not saying it's a bad PSU, but I critique Morgan's recommendation. It's very biased to only recommend one product.

 

I prefer modular but it's good too @Morgan MLGman

Here's a reasoning. Logic is what I use in my life as a guide, you clearly don't.

He's got a budget build, obviously, it's better to spend as much as you can into the GPU+CPU and get as cheap/good PSU as you can.

I've put hundreds of builds on this forum for people from multiple countries and multiple sites and I'm yet to see XFX TS 550W to be too expensive to be not worth getting.

I've seen it not available, but not overpriced. All XFX PSUs are guaranteed quality cause it's Seasonic OEM.

[Senzelian]

Here's a reasoning. Logic is what I use in my life as a guide, you clearly don't.

He's got a budget build, obviously, it's better to spend as much as you can into the GPU+CPU and get as cheap/good PSU as you can.

I've put hundreds of builds on this forum for people from multiple countries and multiple sites and I'm yet to see XFX TS 550W to be too expensive to be not worth getting.

I've seen it not available, but not overpriced. All XFX PSUs are guaranteed quality cause it's Seasonic OEM.

I had a 7 hour discussion about the art of logic. You're using the kind of logic I dislike. But I'm not here to talk about that.

 

It doesn't matter what kind of build he has, about which component we talk or how many builds you've put together, but just to say "Use this" or "Use that" without an explenation or at least the consideration of a different product is a bad recommendation. You're writing it like the XFX PSU is the only good one on this market.

That's how I think. I'm not saying this to make me look better, but because I care for the people on this forum that need help. I'm here to help those people and if I see a bad recommendation I'll point it out. I do that also to make your recommendation better. It's just a critique that you can accept or not.

 

Well, there's nothing wrong with recommending that unit overall tbh. But i see your reasoning, i hate the fanboyism for the 212 EVO cooler, which has been recommended left, right & center for so long on this forum for so long.

Yes, the same happens with a lot of different products like the 212 Evo you mentioned, but also in the form of hate. The Corsair CX PSUs are a good example or the GTX 960. Some people just hate them for whatever reason, even tho they can have their advantages.

[Morgan MLGman]

I had a 7 hour discussion about the art of logic. You're using the kind of logic I dislike. But I'm not here to talk about that.

 

It doesn't matter what kind of build he has, about which component we talk or how many builds you've put together, but just to say "Use this" or "Use that" without an explenation or at least the consideration of a different product is a bad recommendation. You're writing it like the XFX PSU is the only good one on this market.

That's how I think. I'm not saying this to make me look better, but because I care for the people on this forum that need help. I'm here to help those people and if I see a bad recommendation I'll point it out. I do that also to make your recommendation better. It's just a critique that you can accept or not.

 

Yes, the same happens with a lot of different products like the 212 Evo you mentioned, but also in the form of hate. The Corsair CX PSUs are a good example or the GTX 960. Some people just hate them for whatever reason, even tho they can have their advantages.

While I do understand your point, I don't think it really matters to be frank. Here's why it's not good: Some people just come here knowing nothing to ask for help, they don't need an explanation cause sometimes they just wouldn't even understand it, some people just don't care, they want to know what's best, I recommended the XFX TS 550W cause it's cheap, quality and usually in stock in a majority of countries, one of the best units to put in a budget build like OP's, I already recommended a particular unit fit for his particular case to make things faster, as I just know this stuff.

I'm not getting paid for helping people out here, I just enjoy doing so, at first I recommended things your way, with an explanation of why etc., but it just takes significantly more time. That's just a way to make things faster and simpler.

As for the second part, people don't 'hate' the GTX 960, it's just not worth the money and not worth getting considering its place on the market, it's an extremely bad card as far as pricing goes. No reason to recommend it, honestly.

By the way, "You're using the kind of logic I dislike." doesn't disliking something contradicts with logic? I mean it's a subjective matter, as somebody else could just as well 'like' it, that makes it not objective, and that's what logic is based on, at least in my understanding  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I'm messing with you, don't answer that, haha

[Senzelian]

While I do understand your point, I don't think it really matters to be frank. Here's why it's not good: Some people just come here knowing nothing to ask for help, they don't need an explanation cause sometimes they just wouldn't even understand it, some people just don't care, they want to know what's best, I recommended the XFX TS 550W cause it's cheap, quality and usually in stock in a majority of countries, one of the best units to put in a budget build like OP's, I already recommended a particular unit fit for his particular case to make things faster, as I just know this stuff.

I'm not getting paid for helping people out here, I just enjoy doing so, at first I recommended things your way, with an explanation of why etc., but it just takes significantly more time. That's just a way to make things faster and simpler.

As for the second part, people don't 'hate' the GTX 960, it's just not worth the money and not worth getting considering its place on the market, it's an extremely bad card as far as pricing goes. No reason to recommend it, honestly.

By the way, "You're using the kind of logic I dislike." doesn't disliking something contradicts with logic? I mean it's a subjective matter, as somebody else could just as well 'like' it, that makes it not objective, and that's what logic is based on, at least in my understanding  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I'm messing with you, don't answer that, haha

You said it takes more time to explain why you recommend a specific product, but you take the time to explain it to me, while I never questioned your choice, but much more the way you recommended it to OP.

That is the kind of logic I dislike. Not liking something is entirely in the rules of logic, cause that is what we humans do. It is logical that humans think subjectively, because our opinions are based on our experience. To know that, lets me see the real logic as a art and not the logic I dislike. Answering that was logical to me, cause you seem like a person that is able to understand that. 

 

In some scenarios it makes sense to prefer a GTX 960, but I will not get into an argument about the that for now.