R9 280 vs R9 380

[don_svetlio]

No I'm going call people who say "the i5 is simply better" when the data right in front of them says otherwise fanboys 

Can you at least prove the credibility of your data?

[OAcesync]

No I'm going call people who say "the i5 is simply better" when the data right in front of them says otherwise fanboys 

the data showed exactly our point......

[PCPartPickerPro9171787]

 

 

Can you at least prove the credibility of your data?

 

All data for these charts came from here.

http://www.pcper.com...You-Really-Need

 

[don_svetlio]

 

 

 

Can you at least prove the credibility of your data?

 

All data for these charts came from here.

http://www.pcper.com...You-Really-Need

 

 

Those charts prove what we are saying

I am asking for proof that the i5 4460 is not ahead by 30 fps but only by 5 as you are claiming.

[PCPartPickerPro9171787]

the data showed exactly our point......

 

Those charts prove what we are saying

I am asking for proof that the i5 4460 is not ahead by 30 fps but only by 5 as you are claiming.

 

I think I see the problem. Intel fanboys physically don't have a concept of a price to performance ratio (At least when it comes to comparing price to performance between an Intel and AMD CPU) When you look to compare an Intel CPU and AMD CPU, you look and see that the Intel CPU produces better frame rates therefore it must have better price to performance.   

[don_svetlio]

I think I see the problem. Intel fanboys physically don't have a concept of a price to performance ratio (At least when it comes to comparing price to performance between an Intel and AMD CPU) When you look to compare an Intel CPU and AMD CPU, you look and see that the Intel CPU produces better frame rates therefore it must have better price to performance.   

Are you familiar with the concept of budget? The Athlon is a BUDGET CPU - not something you should use when you can spend more than 500$ - hence why I always recommend the i5 for 600$+ builds and the Atlhon for 450-500$ buils. If you bothered to learn what a balanced system is and what the budget in question is you'd see that.

[OAcesync]

I think I see the problem. Intel fanboys physically don't have a concept of a price to performance ratio (At least when it comes to comparing price to performance between an Intel and AMD CPU) When you look to compare an Intel CPU and AMD CPU, you look and see that the Intel CPU produces better frame rates therefore it must have better price to performance.   

Feel like a broken record.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE?

Since when is the price to performance of an Athlon relevant when you can a i5 which is better and within budget.

It's the same as having $2000 budget for a PC but going for a 380 and Athlon because it's the best price to performance which is stupid logic

The purpose is to get the best PC performance wise within BUDGET

 

You're not helping yourself at all

And the thread I posted already debunked the FX being good price to performance 

[PCPartPickerPro9171787]

Are you familiar with the concept of budget? The Athlon is a BUDGET CPU - not something you should use when you can spend more than 500$ - hence why I always recommend the i5 for 600$+ builds and the Atlhon for 450-500$ buils. If you bothered to learn what a balanced system is and what the budget in question is you'd see that.

By that logic a $500 dollar system as a $75 CPU (The CPU cost roughly 1/6 of system)

My system will cost rough $750 with a $100 CPU (The CPU cost roughly 1/6 of system)

My system however as Better Cooling and Looks Better than one with built with a i5.

 

If it was an i5 with a $750 Buget then subtract $180 for the i5 and $300 for a graphics that well give you decent price to performance with the i5 and your left with 270 to get a motherboard, case, ram, storage, OS, and power-supply. You will be skimming on one thing or another.      

[PCPartPickerPro9171787]

Feel like a broken record.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE?

Since when is the price to performance of an Athlon relevant when you can a i5 which is better and within budget.

It's the same as having $2000 budget for a PC but going for a 380 and Athlon because it's the best price to performance which is stupid logic

The purpose is to get the best PC performance wise within BUDGET

 

You're not helping yourself at all

And the thread I posted already debunked the FX being good price to performance 

Well my budget is $750, what do you suggest I do? 

[OAcesync]

Well my budget is $750, what do you suggest I do? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($267.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($51.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $703.84

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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[don_svetlio]

By that logic a $500 dollar system as a $75 CPU (The CPU cost roughly 1/6 of system)

My system will cost rough $750 with a $100 CPU (The CPU cost roughly 1/6 of system)

My system however as Better Cooling and Looks Better than one with built with a i5.

 

If it was an i5 with a $750 Buget then subtract $180 for the i5 and $300 for a graphics that well give you decent price to performance with the i5 and your left with 270 to get a motherboard, case, ram, storage, OS, and power-supply. You will be skimming on one thing or another.      

What did I skimp out on?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($170.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($40.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($33.89 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card  ($319.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: XFX Core Edition 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $763.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 15:55 EDT-0400

[mtty34]

380

[SkilledRebuilds]

No I'm going call people who say "the i5 is simply better" when the data right in front of them says otherwise fanboys 

But no1 ONLY stated that, but went deeper with builds you should choose for more performance... some of them even stated why.

 

Enjoy buyers remorse when it hits (or when your GPU usage plummets on a game, or you dont get expected performance as per reviewers sites say) and you can blame "Optimization" instead of AMD then...

 

 

 

What did I skimp out on?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($170.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($40.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($33.89 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card  ($319.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: XFX Core Edition 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $763.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 15:55 EDT-0400

Want the BEST Performance OP?

Cos this is pretty much it..... and another thing.... REGARDLESS OF FANBOI'ness, Games performance (GPU USAGE) tells enough of the story...

Sure, games are not made equally, some perform better than others, but I'd rather buy a NEW PC that can play 5/5 games perfectly, not 4/5 types of games fine.

(Why else are you upgrading?)

If not more performance, then for what?

 

 

Advice Given, with many reasons (beyond YOUR data)

If you don't want BETTER performance for the similar cost, then DONT, we aint holding a gun to your head.