Upgrade help? 970 or 780 TI.

[Ridorii]

I recieved a little extra cash lately ($600,) and I was thinking of upgrading my system by grabbing -
 A Corsair H100i -
780 TI or as it was brung tyo my attention, GTX 970 -
An FX 8350 -
Current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TF6ThM
So, doing my research, the two cards are quite evenly matched, and there my confusion began.
Given my specs, which card should I even buy? And given my budget, should I be looking at other things to throw into my system? Thanks.
 

[BigDay]

i do not recommend the 780 ti as it gets VERY HOT

 

the 970 will not perform as well as the 780 ti though

[BigDay]

your build needs work

 

edit:

 

nvm, it's your current build

[BigDay]

if you want to spend over $500 on a new gpu, you're going to need a new motherboard and cpu. the amd 4130 will bottleneck a high end gpu

[TheNeutraliser]

you should save money from headset , buy a cheaper headset , take i higher price gpu  

[Mew]

The 8350 might not be able to work with that motherboard. 

[BigDay]

with 600 bucks, this is what i would get: if you need to make it cheaper, get the i5-4460 instead

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($183.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E45 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($56.70 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $560.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-06 19:58 EDT-0400

[don_svetlio]

with 600 bucks, this is what i would get: if you need to make it cheaper, get the i5-4460 instead

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($183.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI B85M-E45 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($56.70 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $560.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-06 19:58 EDT-0400

get a 4460 and an SSD

[Ridorii]

you should save money from headset , buy a cheaper headset , take i higher price gpu

Thats my current build, silly.

 

The 8350 might not be able to work with that motherboard. 

Just reading up on it, theres been cases of it bursting into flames with it, yeah no.

 

with 600 bucks, this is what i would get: if you need to make it cheaper, get the i5-4460 instead

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($183.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI B85M-E45 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($56.70 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $560.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-06 19:58 EDT-0400

No AMD cards pls, id rather avoid them.

[Ridorii]

get a 4460 and an SSD

I already have an ssd. As is for the processor, ill consider it.

[Giggidy25]

Why no 390? It most of the time performs better than the 970 plus more vram also go for the intel cpu

[don_svetlio]

Thats my current build, silly.

 

Just reading up on it, theres been cases of it bursting into flames with it, yeah no.

 

No AMD cards pls, id rather avoid them.

390 is about 5% faster than a 970 while drawing only 42W more and having more than double the usable VRAM.

[don_svetlio]

[Manswaggle]

Just curious, why are you avoiding AMD GPU but want to use an AMD processor?

390 and 970 are pretty close in performance(Please don't link the jayz2¢), but if you got the money and want the 970, go for it. 

[Enderman]

970

it sometimes doesnt perform as well as the 780ti but it runs cooler and if you OC it you can get much better performance

also has 1GB more vram

[SteveGrabowski0]

I recieved a little extra cash lately ($600,) and I was thinking of upgrading my system by grabbing -

 A Corsair H100i -

780 TI or as it was brung tyo my attention, GTX 970 -

An FX 8350 -

Current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TF6ThM

So, doing my research, the two cards are quite evenly matched, and there my confusion began.

Given my specs, which card should I even buy? And given my budget, should I be looking at other things to throw into my system? Thanks.

 

 

I would say not to expect to get big overclocks out of an FX-8350 on that board, so you might be throwing your money away on a high end liquid cooler like that. MSI specifically states on their compatibility list for that board that they don't support 200W CPUs, and if you give an FX-8350 a big overclock you're going to be in that 200W range or worse.

 

As for the GPU, the 780 Ti is slightly better in new games for the most part, but given that the 970 will be way cheaper to find new I'd take a 970.

[don_svetlio]

970

it sometimes doesnt perform as well as the 780ti but it runs cooler and if you OC it you can get much better performance

also has 1GB more vram

It has 0.5 GB more VRAM

[Enderman]

It has 0.5 GB more VRAM

no, it has 4GB

the 780ti has 3GB

4-3=1

learn how to do your math

 

just because 0.5GB runs slower does not mean it magically disappears

there are plenty of people gaming and using over 3.5GB of vram on the 970 and not reporting any performance issues, so its not a problem for everybody

[don_svetlio]

no, it has 4GB

the 780ti has 3GB

4-3=1

learn how to do your math

 

just because 0.5GB runs slower does not mean it magically disappears

there are plenty of people gaming and using over 3.5GB of vram on the 970 and not reporting any performance issues, so its not a problem for everybody

I think the later drives locked the last 0.5 GB of VRAM since people are no longer able to access it. It's on all cards since the issue is a design flaw in the core of the card.

[SteveGrabowski0]

ith 600 bucks, this is what i would get: if you need to make it cheaper, get the i5-4460 instead

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($183.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI B85M-E45 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($56.70 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $560.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-06 19:58 EDT-0400

 

 

Agreed, though I'd opt for an H97 board so as to not have to screw around with BIOS updates. But if it was my $600 that is the exact CPU and the exact GPU I'd buy. The MSI Gaming R9 390 is a powerful bastard. 

[Ridorii]

Just curious, why are you avoiding AMD GPU but want to use an AMD processor?

390 and 970 are pretty close in performance(Please don't link the jayz2¢), but if you got the money and want the 970, go for it. 

Well before checking out that Ill probably have to get a new motherboard if im going to upgrade, I was doing it for the price benefit of just slapping it in the motherboard I had already.

TBH if we're doing AMD, might as well bite the bullet and get a 390x? No? However, I do need to factor in the fact that a cpu upgrade is going to be needed, and ill need money for that.

 

[Aurora906]

Thats my current build, silly.

 

Just reading up on it, theres been cases of it bursting into flames with it, yeah no.

 

No AMD cards pls, id rather avoid them.

Thats funny, it was the amd CPUs i would avoid(for gaming anyway) always thought the GPUs were ok tho.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Well before checking out that Ill probably have to get a new motherboard if im going to upgrade, I was doing it for the price benefit of just slapping it in the motherboard I had already.

TBH if we're doing AMD, might as well bite the bullet and get a 390x? No? However, I do need to factor in the fact that a cpu upgrade is going to be needed, and ill need money for that.

 

The 390x is nice, but I don't know if it's $100 better than the 390. Maybe if you're looking to play at 1440p and need every ounce of GPU power you can get, but at 1080p I'd get the 390 non-X and save the $100 myself.

[BigDay]

Agreed, though I'd opt for an H97 board so as to not have to screw around with BIOS updates. But if it was my $600 that is the exact CPU and the exact GPU I'd buy. The MSI Gaming R9 390 is a powerful bastard. 

 

the b85 board should come with the latest bios update installed from the factory

[comicsansms]

if you want to spend over $500 on a new gpu, you're going to need a new motherboard and cpu. the amd 4130 will bottleneck a high end gpu

That isn't true,

The term "Bottleneck" is over used, It depends on the task.

The term "Not ideal" is correct and, you are right that he needs a new CPU to drive the new GPU correctly and make the build more stable performance wise.