Intel® PCI SSD

[Redjo]

Is this https://www.alternate.de/Intel®/SSDPEDMW400G4R5-400-GB-Solid-State-Drive/html/product/1204570? worth the price ? 

I was going Samsung 850EVO 500GB but i saw this .... it has 2200read 900write speeds

[Interfectorem]

Well it's also more expensive. I'm not sure you'll notice the extra performance in regular usage, but what do I know, I'm just speculating.

[Leonard]

That PCIe ssd only works with an NVMe capable and not SATA MOBO.

[TechNugget]

Really depends on what you're going to use it for

[daniellearmouth]

Ensure your motherboard is NVM Express compatible. Intel 750 Series SSDs require it.

[TheConverter]

Well it's also more expensive. I'm not sure you'll notice the extra performance in regular usage, but what do I know, I'm just speculating.

I would love to get one of those for my Windows + few favourite games like Witcher 3, GTA V, Battlefield 4.

 

Have any of you played Total War Shogun 2? Takes like 1 minute to get past the first intro screen.

[CostcoSamples]

I have a 400 GB Intel 750 PCIE SSD.  It is awesome, but definitely overkill for me as an average user (gaming and office work).  I needed a new SSD, and was going to get 730 series for its reliability.  I opted for the 750 instead, just for the hell of it.  I appreciate the reliability/stability features as this is my primary drive on my work PC.  Do I notice the speed compared to my old SSD?  Maybe a little.  Load times and boot speed are a bit faster, and working with large files is very easy.  Overall windows experience/office work feels very quick, but it felt quick with my old SSD as well. 

 

Is it worth the money?  For me, yes.  I can spend a lot of money on computer parts because it is a business expense.  Would I recommend it to somebody on a tight budget?  No.  It is definitely an enthusiast product.

[Redjo]

I have a 400 GB Intel 750 PCIE SSD.  It is awesome, but definitely overkill for me as an average user (gaming and office work).  I needed a new SSD, and was going to get 730 series for its reliability.  I opted for the 750 instead, just for the hell of it.  I appreciate the reliability/stability features as this is my primary drive on my work PC.  Do I notice the speed compared to my old SSD?  Maybe a little.  Load times and boot speed are a bit faster, and working with large files is very easy.  Overall windows experience/office work feels very quick, but it felt quick with my old SSD as well. 

 

Is it worth the money?  For me, yes.  I can spend a lot of money on computer parts because it is a business expense.  Would I recommend it to somebody on a tight budget?  No.  It is definitely an enthusiast product.

 So for example if 850EVO 500GB boot my windows for 20sec will this do it for 10-5sec ? 

[CostcoSamples]

 So for example if 850EVO 500GB boot my windows for 20sec will this do it for 10-5sec ? 

Well...  I wouldn't say the difference is that big.  I did not measure it, but maybe from 20 sec down to 10 to 15 sec, not counting the BIOS time.  

[Naeaes]

It's totally overkill for any kind of home use. For some kinds of servers or works stations it can be justifiable but if that's not what you're aiming at, please think hard about setting up RAID0 rig with Sata SSDs.

[CostcoSamples]

Keep in mind, as this is a PCIe ssd and very new, there are kinks to be worked out.  For instance, while performance and reliability are great, compatibility is not great.  Also, drive initialization can be slow (may take 10 or so seconds during boot).  What this means is, while loading is fast, you have to wait for the drive to initialize properly, so boot time is not going to be less than 10 to 15 seconds.  I keep my system fairly light, so booting is very fast (once initialization is complete).  Intel is aware of the issue and is working on improving boot time with driver updates.  Some have reported boot times of 20 to 30 seconds.

[CostcoSamples]

It's totally overkill for any kind of home use. For some kinds of servers or works stations it can be justifiable but if that's not what you're aiming at, please think hard about setting up RAID0 rig with Sata SSDs.

It's cheaper than a RAID setup, unless you compare to really cheap or low capacity SATA drives.  You have to compare apples to apples.  The only other drive on the market that compares to 750 in terms of reliability is the 730 series.  Two 512 GB 730 drives will cost way more than a single 400 GB 750 series.

 

And realistically, if a 750 is as you say, "totally overkill for any kind of home use", so is RAID 0.  These are enthusiast setups.  Budget builders need not apply. 

 

Compared to RAID 0, the 750 series wins in both performance and price.

[Naeaes]

It's cheaper than a RAID setup, unless you compare to really cheap or low capacity SATA drives.  You have to compare apples to apples.  The only other drive on the market that compares to 750 in terms of reliability is the 730 series.  Two 512 GB 730 drives will cost way more than a single 400 GB 750 series.

 

And realistically, if a 750 is as you say, "totally overkill for any kind of home use", so is RAID 0.  These are enthusiast setups.  Budget builders need not apply. 

 

Compared to RAID 0, the 750 series wins in both performance and price.

 

It's cheaper than two 250GB SSDs? You sure? I'd say OP could get four 250GB 850EVOs at the price of the NVMe drive.

Performance-wise a two-disk RAID0 setup will obviously lose but that's the point since over 2GBps read speed in home use is way overkill. This is a matter of opinion but for me the sweet spot is around 1GBps. You can hit that with two good disks and three is not worth it because integrated RAID controllers don't scale that well.

I do admit that a single SSD is fine for most ordain home use but here I did literally mean to talk about any kind of home use, enthusiastic gaming included. And I stand by my statement that 2GBps read is overkill even for enthusiastic gaming. Didn't you agree in an earlier post?

[CostcoSamples]

It's cheaper than two 250GB SSDs? You sure? I'd say OP could get four 250GB 850EVOs at the price of the NVMe drive.

Performance-wise a two-disk RAID0 setup will obviously lose but that's the point since over 2GBps read speed in home use is way overkill. This is a matter of opinion but for me the sweet spot is around 1GBps. You can hit that with two good disks and three is not worth it because integrated RAID controllers don't scale that well.

I do admit that a single SSD is fine for most ordain home use but here I did literally mean to talk about any kind of home use, enthusiastic gaming included. And I stand by my statement that 2GBps read is overkill even for enthusiastic gaming. Didn't you agree in an earlier post?

Hey now, I never said it was cheaper than dual 256 drives.  Lets run some numbers instead of talking generalizations (prices taken from pcpartpicker.com in USD)

 

Intel 750 PCIe 400GB card:  $379.99 = $0.95/GB

RAID 0 - Intel 730 SATA SSD 480GB: 2x$239.99 =  $479.98 = $1.00/GB

 

Now, for a less than fair price comparison, we will compare the less reliable Samsung 850 EVO, which you quoted.

RAID 0 - Samsung 850 EVO 500GB: 2x$177.98 = $355.96 = $0.71/GB

 

So there you have it.  Your cheaper Samsung drives are in fact cheaper in terms of price per GB.  It should not be a surprise that a more mainstream budget oriented SSD is cheaper than the enthusiast grade 750 series.  This comparison does not consider performance per dollar.  For that metric, 750 series is leaps ahead of any RAID0 setup.

 

The 750 series is overkill, just like a 980 ti is overkill, just like an 80+ Platinum PSU is overkill.  The point is, we want high end enthusiast products simply because we like high tech shit.  

[Naeaes]

The point is, we want high end enthusiast products simply because we like high tech shit.  

You and I do. But that's not what OP asked. They simply wanted to know if Intel 750 series PCI-e SSD was worth the extra money in comparison to the Samsung 850EVO. My angle was merely that it is not if it's home use that they're aiming for. And I did the math for the RAID0 setup since I do believe that twice the read speed is worth the 30€ it costs extra.

 

I just don't want to veer too far away from the topic. I'm new here and don't want to disrespect OP and others following this thread. That said, I have nothing against Intel or NVMe. If it weren't for the price I'd go for the 750 PCI-e myself. I've seen too many 2-year-old bricked SSDs to say anything about reliability after just a couple of months of the product being out but I do know Intel's RMA handling and customer service first hand and that's reason enough for me.

[CostcoSamples]

You and I do. But that's not what OP asked. They simply wanted to know if Intel 750 series PCI-e SSD was worth the extra money in comparison to the Samsung 850EVO. My angle was merely that it is not if it's home use that they're aiming for. And I did the math for the RAID0 setup since I do believe that twice the read speed is worth the 30€ it costs extra.

 

I just don't want to veer too far away from the topic. I'm new here and don't want to disrespect OP and others following this thread. That said, I have nothing against Intel or NVMe. If it weren't for the price I'd go for the 750 PCI-e myself. I've seen too many 2-year-old bricked SSDs to say anything about reliability after just a couple of months of the product being out but I do know Intel's RMA handling and customer service first hand and that's reason enough for me.

Fair enough.  

 

And it is hard for us to answer the "is it worth it" question, because it depends on your personal situation.  The best we can do is talk about the pros and cons, which I think we've done.

 

So there you go OP.  If you do decide to buy one, please let us know what you think!

 

p.s. I've also bricked SSDs.  Very frustrating.  I lost one to sudden power loss causing permanent damage.  After that, I decided to only purchase drives with full flush-in-flight power loss protection (Intel 730 and 750 are currently the only drives meeting that criteria).