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*If your temps on this driver are lower please do not blame me, I am trying to get the word out to those who have a similar problem to me. This might not affect everybody.*

 

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Hello there!
Yesterday I had installed the new drivers for windows 10, however I was not running windows 10 but still running 8.1. I noticed that the temps on my GPU were higher than normal:

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The card wouldn't go back to stock clocks! It just idled at 1113Mhz, as if something was using the GPU on the desktop. After much troubleshooting, I tried rolling back the drivers and to my amazement:

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It works! I am back to 135Mhz on idle, and my temps are steadily going down.

 

I am going to keep this driver until I upgrade to Win10 in a few weeks time, by then I will check if using the right drivers on the right platform will have a difference.

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Hmm, I never had this issue, perhaps a fan curve broke with the update? I'll keep an eye out for it, I'm also on 353.62

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My GPU is running just as cool as normal, sitting at 135MHz "idle" clock speed.

 

Sitting on .62 on win 10 as well :P

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Your GPU is supposed to downclock all the way at idle? Mine has been sitting at 925MHz...

 

Edit: Apparently it's from running my display at 144Hz. If I change it to 120 my card downclocks all the way... How do I fix this?

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This is because you updated the driver without uninstalling and restarting before hand.

Please spend as much time writing your question, as you want me to spend responding to it.  Take some time, and explain your issue, please!

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*If your temps on this driver are lower please do not blame me, I am trying to get the word out to those who have a similar problem to me. This might not affect everybody.*

 

EDIT: added spoilers for images

 

Hello there!
Yesterday I had installed the new drivers for windows 10, however I was not running windows 10 but still running 8.1. I noticed that the temps on my GPU were higher than normal:

yAadfqx.png

 

The card wouldn't go back to stock clocks! It just idled at 1113Mhz, as if something was using the GPU on the desktop. After much troubleshooting, I tried rolling back the drivers and to my amazement:

HsVzY03.png

It works! I am back to 135Mhz on idle, and my temps are steadily going down.

 

I am going to keep this driver until I upgrade to Win10 in a few weeks time, by then I will check if using the right drivers on the right platform will have a difference.

Cheers!

 

i know this problem, its caused sometimes when you dont restart after installing the driver.

 

Your GPU is supposed to downclock all the way at idle? Mine has been sitting at 925MHz...

 

Edit: Apparently it's from running my display at 144Hz. If I change it to 120 my card downclocks all the way... How do I fix this?

This is intended when you use two or more Monitors and one of them isnt 144hz. Its a feature, which was added because the drivers made problems without it in the past.

When you only use 144hz Monitor(s) your Card will downclock all the way down as usual.

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Worked perfectly fine for me.

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This is because you updated the driver without uninstalling and restarting before hand.

That shouldn't do anything like break it

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That shouldn't do anything like break it

 

Actually, it totally does.  Uninstall the current driver.  Then reinstall the old version of the driver, then uninstall that version...  Then you can proceed with a installation of the current driver.  Alternatively, just hope that it fixes itself.

Please spend as much time writing your question, as you want me to spend responding to it.  Take some time, and explain your issue, please!

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Actually, it totally does.  Uninstall the current driver.  Then reinstall the old version of the driver, then uninstall that version...  Then you can proceed with a installation of the current driver.  Alternatively, just hope that it fixes itself.

I've never experienced an issue by simply installing "express" over an old driver. Ever. Uninstalling/clean installing or running DDU prior to each install is honestly little but a waste of time unless you specifically have a problem.

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I've never experienced an issue by simply installing "express" over an old driver. Ever. Uninstalling/clean installing or running DDU prior to each install is honestly little but a waste of time unless you specifically have a problem.

 

Isn't he specifically experiencing a problem?  Or did I miss something here?

Please spend as much time writing your question, as you want me to spend responding to it.  Take some time, and explain your issue, please!

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Isn't he specifically experiencing a problem?  Or did I miss something here?

Yes. he is. you however said "it's because you didn't uninstall the driver first". I informed you that failing to uninstall the old driver and restarting the PC first should not introduce problems, rather than your declaration that his issue was caused by that.

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Yes. he is. you however said "it's because you didn't uninstall the driver first". I informed you that failing to uninstall the old driver and restarting the PC first should not introduce problems, rather than your declaration that his issue was caused by that.

 

It absolutely is known to cause issues.  Both Nvidia and AMD give SPECIFIC instructions to uninstall before any install.

Please spend as much time writing your question, as you want me to spend responding to it.  Take some time, and explain your issue, please!

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If you need to learn how to install Windows, check here:  http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/324871-guide-how-to-install-windows-the-right-way/

Event Viewer 101: https://youtu.be/GiF9N3fJbnE

 

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No issues for me with 353.62 and Windows 10.

Temps are the same, frequencies are the same, no noticeable changes in performance so far.

Take is for what it's worth, a single online random person's experience.

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Your GPU is supposed to downclock all the way at idle? Mine has been sitting at 925MHz...

Edit: Apparently it's from running my display at 144Hz. If I change it to 120 my card downclocks all the way... How do I fix this?

It's been an issue for a while now and you can't do anything about it. I have just accepted it and keep it on 144 hz.

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Happened to me once even without this driver but temps werent high. It didnt effect gaming at all (and same temps on heavy load) so who cares? 

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Actually, it totally does.  Uninstall the current driver.  Then reinstall the old version of the driver, then uninstall that version...  Then you can proceed with a installation of the current driver.  Alternatively, just hope that it fixes itself.

Thats.. Annoying.. I think i would rather let it "break" with idle not going back to stocks than going thru this hell. =-_-=

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I have the same problem here ... the first few days with 353.62 everything was fine, then had the frequency stuck at 1113mhz ... at least now I know that does not depend on the card. When I get back from work I try a rollback...

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My experience from this new driver was bad, w10 on pretty old hardware (c2dgtx660) and after update the coreclock from gpu stayed at 500-700mhz no matter what game/settings and after that geforce experience couldn't launch and i had to re-install drivers, now its working like it was supposed to

Edit: might be the old 500gb hdd's in thst machine, already today suddenly lost few csgo files(hdd's are fucking loud while starting up/doing heavy things:) )

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My cards downclock just fine, so this isn't a universal issue.

 

Either way it's not really something to be concerned about.  

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For the record, I've had issues with my 970 downclocking with previous drivers.

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I've got the same issue

 

970

 

My clocks idle at 1113/1752 and it's making my idle temp high

 

How can I resolve this ? I did a fresh install with windows 10 using the latest drivers

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