What AMD processor to get

[Hieb]

The extra module will make almost no difference in games. My suggestion would be to get the Hyper 212 now, overclock the FX-6300, and then save the rest of your money for when Skylake releases (or Zen if you wanna wait a whole year) and upgrade then.

[iHardware Shelden]

How does this cooler look for  "Overclocking the shit out of it"?

Well saying I am at 4Ghz and never get above 45c it is amazing, then again I have a Noctua fan strapped to it but still, I would get a nice water cooler in your case

[tomas710]

Okay what cooler do you recommend?

May seem risky, but in your particular case a nice dual tower heatsink or double rad would be a pretty smart investment since you could use it when you upgrade. However i can't see much difference in getting a cheaper cooler now and just saving up for a whole new rig. So, for cheap version, the classic Hyper 212 EVO or the contender from CRYORIG the H7, which is beating the hyper 212 evo in many benchmarks. I think that's the best move for now but if you want a better higher end cooler you can use on your next build, i would go with a CRYORIG R1 ultimate, Noctua NH-D15, Corsair H105, NZXT X61, Corsair H110i GT or something along those lines

[katfro]

Well saying I am at 4Ghz and never get above 45c it is amazing, then again I have a Noctua fan strapped to it but still, I would get a nice water cooler in your case

Alright. I meant to include this link  :lol:  http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=080610 But sure I'll water cool. I have a Corsair Carbide 300r.

[tomas710]

Alright. I meant to include this link  :lol:  http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=080610 But sure I'll water cool. I have a Corsair Carbide 300r.

I would go higher or lower. The rig you got right now is good right now, maybe lacking a bit, so overclocking will make a nice performance boost, but IMO you should choose in either saving money, getting a CRYORIG H7 or CM Hyper 212 evo or going all the way and basically getting a good cooler that will serve you well on your next build. That said, without being as snobby as i usually am with coolers the D92 can be reused on your next build no problem, it's a very good cooler. Fuck, this thread is fun but i gotta go to bed, ill check on it tomorrow

[CatzRuleZWorld]

It might not work for you since it seems you might live in Canada and IDK how long it'll last (the deal) but this is $20 after rebate. Best bang for buck you're going to find.

[Guest trucker2]

DX12 comes out in a few days DX11 only allowed one core to talk to the gpu.

Budget gamer on youtube had a comparison video between the 6300 and the 8350 both with the gtx 980. Only big jump was Crysis 3

BTW vid showed all cores and gpu around 95% ie: no bottleneck

Microcenter has water cooling kits for 50 bucks.

Only intel chip worth the jump is a Xeon like the 1231v3. Multi-threaded games are the future and i3 and i5's are just 4 threads. Xeon has 8.

[Guest trucker2]

here is the vid

 

[Dabombinable]

DX12 comes out in a few days DX11 only allowed one core to talk to the gpu.

Budget gamer on youtube had a comparison video between the 6300 and the 8350 both with the gtx 980. Only big jump was Crysis 3

BTW vid showed all cores and gpu around 95% ie: no bottleneck

Microcenter has water cooling kits for 50 bucks.

Only intel chip worth the jump is a Xeon like the 1231v3. Multi-threaded games are the future and i3 and i5's are just 4 threads. Xeon has 8.

You've been told several times, DirectX 12 won't do much to revive CPU that are over 4 years old and performed poorly at launch. And AM3+ is a dead socket just like LGA1150. Also, you really are blind to the evidence you've been shown when recommending CPU for the required tasks at hand, aren't you?

 

Edit: "Gigabyte G1 GTX 970. I play CSGO and GTA V and I would like more fps in both. I get around 50 in gta and 150 in csgo. I would like 60+ in gta and 200+ in csgo. Also I would like to be future proof."

That would mean aiming for at the very least a locked i5 or a Xeon with hyperthreading (I always forgt the exact model), with a 4690K/4790K being preferred for 'future proofing'.

[othertomperson]

 

I need to say this, getting a locked i5 right now it's a terrible investement. We got skylake and zen, both using DDR4, which mean whatever rig you build from now on better be able to overclock since next upgrade will be mobo, cpu and memory, and if zen is what it needs to be, i'll be anticipating in an entire change of how CPU development is going. TIK TOK is as a stupid piece of shit concept as Ke$ha and im glad Intel couldn't keep it up this time

 

Strongly disagree.

 

Buy an i5 4440 and a H81 motherboard. Games aren't increasing their CPU dependency at any noticeable rate, and the performance increases year on year are in percentages countable on your fingers. DDR4 offers zero gaming benefits over DDR3 -- not tiny, not small, none whatsoever. Overclocking is a nice thing to have for an enthusiast but its impact on gaming is negligible.

 

Sandy Bridge is almost as good a platform now as it was four years ago. If you get a Haswell i5 now Skylake and Zen will be relics by the time you want to upgrade.

[Nena Trinity]

I currently have an AMD FX 6300 at stock speed with stock cooler. I want a new processor. FX 8320 or amd fx 8350. I will also be getting a 212 evo cooler. My max price is $250 CAD. I was thinking a320 then OCing to 4 ghz. Any advice would help but only AM3+ and I have a Gigabyte G1 GTX 970. I play CSGO and GTA V and I would like more fps in both. I get around 50 in gta and 150 in csgo. I would like 60+ in gta and 200+ in csgo. Also I would like to be future proof.

If you are sure your motherboard can handle a 8-core then try that but if it is a poor VRM board do not bother it will thermal trottle!

 

I am not sure what Rockstar have done in GTA V but many say FX-8350 does poorly in it... (not sure if game will get DX12, probably wont...)

[i_build_nanosuits]

If you are sure your motherboard can handle a 8-core then try that but if it is a poor VRM board do not bother it will thermal trottle!

 

I am not sure what Rockstar have done in GTA V but many say FX-8350 does poorly in it... (not sure if game will get DX12, probably wont...)

not just GTA 5, the AMD FX-8 perform poorly in MANY games...

OP, the upgrade from an FX-6300 to even an FX-9590 wil yield next to no benefit when it comes to gaming, games typicaly use only 3 or 4 threads...having more of them slow cores will not help your performance in games and you will still bottleneck a GTX 970 or any other higher end graphics solution you trow at it.

Your best bet is to sell your FX and board as a combo online and order an i5-4460 and a cheap H97 motherboard for example.

[Nena Trinity]

not just GTA 5, the AMD FX-8 perform poorly in MANY games...

OP, the upgrade from an FX-6300 to even an FX-9590 wil yield next to no benefit when it comes to gaming, games typicaly use only 3 or 4 threads...having more of them slow cores will not help your performance in games and you will still bottleneck a GTX 970 or any other higher end graphics solution you trow at it.

Your best bet is to sell your FX and board as a combo online and order an i5-4460 and a cheap H97 motherboard for example.

Well if GTA V only uses 4 then its no help upgrading to 8 then... So maybe overclock or i5?

[tomas710]

 

 

 

Strongly disagree.

 

Buy an i5 4440 and a H81 motherboard. Games aren't increasing their CPU dependency at any noticeable rate, and the performance increases year on year are in percentages countable on your fingers. DDR4 offers zero gaming benefits over DDR3 -- not tiny, not small, none whatsoever. Overclocking is a nice thing to have for an enthusiast but its impact on gaming is negligible.

 

Sandy Bridge is almost as good a platform now as it was four years ago. If you get a Haswell i5 now Skylake and Zen will be relics by the time you want to upgrade.

 

It's not about performance. It's simply the fact that we are seeing a major shift in the industry, once a new ram becomes mainstream, the older one starts going up in price, also, Zen will be the first real arquitectural change for AMD in 5 years, and Intel announced they will fail to deliver the 10nm shrink. The simple fact is i don't know what's coming, no one does, and for the person who started this thread, rushing to get a locked I5 when there is still life on his CPU by simply overclocking doesn't make sense. He's better off overclocking his 6300, which should give him the performance increase he wants, and wait for more certainty on the market to buy a better CPU than a 4460. If you don't have a pc, you want a new one on a tight budget and overclocking is not for you, then fine, the 4460 may be a good option, in his case, he's much better off waiting for a CPU that's worth his money.

[IateMApoo]

Why would you want more fps in CSGO ? If you got 144 Hz panel youll only see 144 fps and thats as high as gaming monitors go.

[Nena Trinity]

Why would you want more fps in CSGO ? If you got 144 Hz panel youll only see 144 fps and thats as high as gaming monitors go.

All want 150-250 FPS in CSGO!  

 

But the hardcore ones want 200-300...

 

Most of them also has 60HZ screens...

[Dabombinable]

Well if GTA V only uses 4 then its no help upgrading to 8 then... So maybe overclock or i5?

The OP would need at least 5GHz, and even then it falls far short of an i5 4440 at 3.1GHz. 5.3GHz narrows the gap significantly but the i5 still performs better while only using around 30W of power compared to well over 220W.

[katfro]

Why would you want more fps in CSGO ? If you got 144 Hz panel youll only see 144 fps and thats as high as gaming monitors go.

It is not consistent. It goes from 110 to 200.

[IateMApoo]

It is not consistent. It goes from 110 to 200.

Whats the refresh rate on your monitor ?

[-iSynthesis]

You won't be happy in cs:go or any other game going from a 6300 even to a 9590. CS:GO is a heavily on single thread performance depending game, it wont use more than 4 cores. You most likely won't see any performance improvement at all. Go intel, you can get some good stuff for the 250$ you have as Budget, sell your old cpu and mobo and you can afford an i5. 

[Nena Trinity]

The OP would need at least 5GHz, and even then it falls far short of an i5 4440 at 3.1GHz. 5.3GHz narrows the gap significantly but the i5 still performs better while only using around 30W of power compared to well over 220W.

I am not sure the FX-63X0 will use 220W cause it only has 3 modules. (still its a lottery)

 

Also i5-4440 is good but not amazing compared to FX, in a MODERN game such as Witcher 3 the FX-8350 was 5FPS behind i5-4690K and FX-6300 was 10FPS behind. FX-6300 still managed to get a draw against a i3 model that was shown in the same comparison.  (well FX won by a few FPS but still I call it draw.)

[Dabombinable]

I am not sure the FX-63X0 will use 220W cause it only has 3 modules. (still its a lottery)

 

Also i5-4440 is good but not amazing compared to FX, in a MODERN game such as Witcher 3 the FX-8350 was 5FPS behind i5-4690K and FX-6300 was 10FPS behind. FX-6300 still managed to get a draw against a i3 model that was shown in the same comparison.  (well FX won by a few FPS but still I call it draw.)

Where did you get those figures from?

[Nena Trinity]

Where did you get those figures from?

The less FPS part?

https://youtu.be/Rutk9ErhKG4?t=4m6s

 

or

 

The module thing? That was just basic math!

FX-43X0 has 2 modules with 2 cores each = 4 logical cores (100w max on load?)

FX-63X0 has 3 modules with 2 cores each = 6 logical cores (125w max on load?)

FX-83X0 has 4 modules with 2 cores each = 8 logical cores (150w on load unless it is FX-8370 or the E variants...)

[Dabombinable]

The less FPS part?

https://youtu.be/Rutk9ErhKG4?t=4m6s

 

or

 

The module thing? That was just basic math!

FX-43X0 has 2 modules with 2 cores each = 4 logical cores (100w max on load?)

FX-63X0 has 3 modules with 2 cores each = 6 logical cores (125w max on load?)

FX-83X0 has 4 modules with 2 cores each = 8 logical cores (150w on load unless it is FX-8370 or the E variants...)

I've known about the modules for quite a while. And look at the frame times, those along with the minimum FPS are why the FX line is shit for gaming.

[BlackXbonE]

get a AIO watercooler or highend aircooler to oc your cpu to about 4.5ghz, then safe some money and get an i5.