What's the best laptop for $1000?

[ANewFace]

Ok just scratched the Asus laptop that I just made a post about off the list because the screen was crap, so now I need your help. What's the best laptop for around $1000? (And with my rules that means $900~-$1100~) Also if there I something for less then that that I can upgrade to pretty much what I want then that's fine.

 

What I would like

I would like a pretty decent i7, but a high end i5 would work

8GB+ of RAM is a must, unless there is something good that really cheep that I can upgrade to 8GB. Upgrade room on an 8GB laptop would be nice, but not required.

1920x1080p or better screen required. I would like 14in or more. Im totally fine with 15in or 17in doesn't matter.

500GB+ SSD I would like, but if there is something with upgrade room to go to 500gb that's fine. I would prefer not to have an HDD but I could live with one on top of the SSD.

Dedicated GPU is a must

Decent port layout. Would like 4 USB 3, and an SD card reader. But the more ports the better.

 

That is what I would like? Whats a good laptop for this price, or a good one I can upgrade.

[thekeemo]

Y50

Or eurocom m5?

[Guest Oakley]

I know it doesnt work for everybody but man, when I see $1000 being dropped on a Laptop I'm like "Just get an SFF PC".

[ANewFace]

I know it doesnt work for everybody but man, when I see $1000 being dropped on a Laptop I'm like "Just get an SFF PC".

I want it for school, not everything is about gaming. Believe me I am good on a gaming PC.

[ANewFace]

Y50

Or eurocom m5?

Y50 has no SSD

[Guest Oakley]

I want it for school, not everything is about gaming. Believe me I am good on a gaming PC.

Oh, ok. Have you considered a Macbook? When it comes to laptops I like these. They come with alot of software so it would be good for school. They include all of the specifications depending on the model.The downfall of them is that they cant be upgraded and the lack of ports. GPU aswell, but if it is for school, meh.

[ANewFace]

Oh, ok. Have you considered a Macbook? When it comes to laptops I like these. They come with alot of software so it would be good for school. They include all of the specifications depending on the model.The downfall of them is that they cant be upgraded and the lack of ports.

.............nuff said

[Thebman712]

Y50 has no SSD

put it in yourself 

[ANewFace]

put it in yourself 

But it's at the top of my budget

[DarkBlade2117]

Y50 has no SSD

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TI6TASK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00TI6TASK&linkCode=as2&tag=hardwarevol03-20 Alright. it should be $999 if it's not I think you need prime but you can start a free trial. You can add a mSata SSD according to the questions and have a 1tb mechanical drive or replace it with a SSD. Otherwise it's just about everything you asked for. It's only 6.6pounds which I find to seem pretty good for a 17inch display.

[ANewFace]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TI6TASK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00TI6TASK&linkCode=as2&tag=hardwarevol03-20 Alright. it should be $999 if it's not I think you need prime but you can start a free trial. You can add a mSata SSD according to the questions and have a 1tb mechanical drive or replace it with a SSD. Otherwise it's just about everything you asked for. It's only 6.6pounds which I find to seem pretty good for a 17inch display.

I have prime, I might do this. Best option so far

[rtpb5642]

Oh, ok. Have you considered a Macbook? When it comes to laptops I like these. They come with alot of software so it would be good for school. They include all of the specifications depending on the model.The downfall of them is that they cant be upgraded and the lack of ports. GPU aswell, but if it is for school, meh.

Macbook lmao

 

If i were to get any macbook id get a 2012 15 inch cause it acually is upgradable.

[Curufinwe_wins]

http://www.amazon.com/GE62-15-6-inch-i7-5700HQ-7200rpm-Computer/dp/B00YFE5OCQ

 

Best options in the range imho, although really you could get an 900 dollar range Asus or Msi or Lenovo (which isn't bad but they don't scale well beyond say 1000, and the y50 is goreous) and toss in a 256-500 GB ssd yourself for significant cost savings.

 

In that price range you should be looking for a 960m or better, a 4720HQ or better etc.

[Guest Oakley]

Macbook lmao

 

If i were to get any macbook id get a 2012 15 inch cause it acually is upgradable.

If it is for school why would you need to upgrade? Do you really need 16 gbs of RAM for this? No. It comes with alot of useful software. If you really look at the Macbook all biases aside and don't think it is a viable option (given the circumstances) you are an idiot. The Apple hate is real.

[exercutor5]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152711&cm_re=msi_ge62_apache-_-34-152-711-_-Product

 

Check this out.

[rtpb5642]

If it is for school why would you need to upgrade? Do you really need 16 gbs of RAM for this? No. It comes with alot of useful software. If you really look at the Macbook all biases aside and don't think it is a viable option (given the circumstances) you are an idiot. The Apple hate is real.

I take programming courses for SCHOOL and i would need to run a windows VM so ya id need more RAM

My thinkpad has 24GB of the stuff dual channel

[Curufinwe_wins]

If it is for school why would you need to upgrade? Do you really need 16 gbs of RAM for this? No. It comes with alot of useful software. If you really look at the Macbook all biases aside and don't think it is a viable option (given the circumstances) you are an idiot. The Apple hate is real.

All Biases aside, the included software is shit, the performance per dollar is shit, and the university ecosystem for coding relies almost exclusively on Windows and Linux (which while the unix capabilities of mac is ok, it's still not often sufficient or convenient). And that isn't even accounting for its total non-usability with so much as a flash drive unless you buy insanely overpriced adapters.

 

Literally it is one of the worse possible choices out there.

 

And before you come at me with Apple hate, I exclusively use osX on a mac mini at work because of unix requirements, but that doesn't make it good.

[Guest Oakley]

I take programming courses for SCHOOL and i would need to run a windows VM so ya id need more RAM

My thinkpad has 24GB of the stuff dual channel

Because the average user will be taking programming classes. Try thinking before you talk.

[Guest Oakley]

All Biases aside, the included software is shit, the performance per dollar is shit, and the university ecosystem for coding relies almost exclusively on Windows and Linux (which while the unix capabilities of mac is ok, it's still not often sufficient or convenient). And that isn't even accounting for its total non-usability with so much as a flash drive unless you buy insanely overpriced adapters.

 

Literally it is one of the worse possible choices out there.

 

And before you come at me with Apple hate, I exclusively use osX on a mac mini at work because of unix requirements, but that doesn't make it good.

If my suggestion falls within almost all the parameters of what he wants in a laptop, tell me how in hell it is NOT considered a good and viable choice. Oh, and by the way, I could pick out many, many statements in your little rant that are pure bias and opinion.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Who said anything about coding? You cant infer anything that he is using this for, only "school". For the average user this is a fine choice, you just cant seem to get over that fact. If my suggestion falls within almost all the parameters of what he wants in a laptop, tell me how in hell it is NOT considered a good and viable choice.

It has literally two.

 

It doesn't have any sort of port layout (specifically mentioned)

It doesn't have dedicated graphics.

It doesn't even start within the cost range. (even with Education Pricing it starts at 1099.99)

It doesn't have any sort of decent cpu (core m really?)

 

It is a terrible choice for almost any user, and YOU need to get over the FACT that apple does NOT offer cost competitive products at any price range.

 

 

His requirements

I would like a pretty decent i7, but a high end i5 would work NOPE

8GB+ of RAM is a must, unless there is something good that really cheep that I can upgrade to 8GB.  Upgrade room on an 8GB laptop would be nice, but not required. YES on 8gb NO on upgrade

1920x1080p or better screen required. I would like 14in or more. Im totally fine with 15in or 17in doesn't matter. HAS 1440p but LESS THAN 14 in.

500GB+ SSD I would like, but if there is something with upgrade room to go to 500gb that's fine. I would prefer not to have an HDD but I could live with one on top of the SSD. 500 SSD STARTS at 1500+

Dedicated GPU is a must NOPE

Decent port layout. Would like 4 USB 3, and an SD card reader. But the more ports the better. LITERALLY THE WORST PORT LAYOUT IN EXISTENCE

[Guest Oakley]

It has literally two.

 

It doesn't have any sort of port layout (specifically mentioned)

It doesn't have dedicated graphics.

It doesn't even start within the cost range. (even with Education Pricing it starts at 1099.99)

It doesn't have any sort of decent cpu (core m really?)

 

It is a terrible choice for almost any user, and YOU need to get over the FACT that apple does NOT offer cost competitive products at any price range.

1.) Have you ever heard of an adapter? Yeah, they exist. 

2.) I remember saying "almost".

3.) You must not of looked up Macbook prices lately. There is a new Macbook that is at the lowest end of the budget. (Not saying he should go with a new one.)

4.)Only the new Macbooks use Core-M. Again, not saying he should get a new one.

 

Can you have a debate and use factual information? Not "It is a terrible choice for almost any user, and YOU need to get over the FACT that apple does NOT offer cost competitive products at any price range."

[Curufinwe_wins]

1.) Have you ever heard of an adapter? Yeah, they exist. 

2.) I remember saying "almost".

3.) You must not of looked up Macbook prices lately. There is a new Macbook the is at the lowest end of the budget. (Not saying he should go with a new one.)

4.)Only the new Macbooks use Core-M. Again, not saying he should get a new one.

1. Yes they exist and they are ridiculously overpriced because APPLE.

2. If almost means literally less than 1/3rd of the requirements then sure ALMOST.

3. The lowest cost macbook still fails to meet all requirements except for 1080p, and is STILL a terrible value. http://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air?product=MJVM2LL/A&step=config# Yea sure go ahead and add 230 dollars to still be stuck with 128 GB SSD but with an shitty dual core i7 and 8 GB ram. Also out of budget by that point.

4. Ahh yes get an older model Macbook so your hardware is EVEN farther out of date.

 

SERIOUSLY if you even think about value for 10 seconds there isn't a single apple product that qualifies.

 

That's the point though. You buy Apple products for the logo and the ecosystem not the value (because there is none).

 

Compare for a second to this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-15-6-HD-Gaming-Notebook-i7-4720HQ-12GB-DDR3-750GB-HDD-Nvidia-GTX950M-GL551/121656115178?customid=b07aa15404f6457a8cbfdcb174887a03&pub=5574652453&afepn=5337259887&campid=5337259887&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c5344ffea&afepn=5337259887&rmvSB=true

 

Brand new, 750 Dollars and it meets every requirement EXCEPT SSD and an SSD can be added with the extra 250 dollars you are saving compared with even the requested dollar range. And yet outside of thickness, it has a better cpu, gpu, and more storage than EVERY macbook option.

 

Is that fact enough?

[Guest Oakley]

1. Yes they exist and they are ridiculously overpriced because APPLE.

2. If almost means literally less than 1/3rd of the requirements then sure ALMOST.

3. The lowest cost macbook still fails to meet all requirements except for 1080p, and is STILL a terrible value. http://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air?product=MJVM2LL/A&step=config# Yea sure go ahead and add 300 dollars to still be stuck with 128 GB SSD but with an i7-5500u and 8 GB ram. Also out of budget by that point.

4. Ahh yes get an older model Macbook so your hardware is EVEN farther out of date.

 

SERIOUSLY if you even think about value for 10 seconds there isn't a single apple product that qualifies.

 

That's the point though. You buy Apple products for the logo and the ecosystem not the value (because there is none).

 

Compare for a second to this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-15-6-HD-Gaming-Notebook-i7-4720HQ-12GB-DDR3-750GB-HDD-Nvidia-GTX950M-GL551/121656115178?customid=b07aa15404f6457a8cbfdcb174887a03&pub=5574652453&afepn=5337259887&campid=5337259887&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c5344ffea&afepn=5337259887&rmvSB=true

 

Brand new, 750 Dollars and it meets every requirement EXCEPT SSD and an SSD can be added with the extra 250 dollars you are saving compared with even the requested dollar range. And yet outside of thickness, it has a better cpu, gpu, and more storage than EVERY macbook option.

You cant be reasoned with can you. Tell me when you can factually support the (great) majority of your statements and I will talk...

[Curufinwe_wins]

You cant be reasoned with can you. Tell me when you can factually support the (great) majority of your statements and I will talk...

I literally have whereas you have not one been able to point to a single value on the Macbook line (of which I did mention the only one that exists, thinness, but he wanted a 14+ inch).

 

Or do you believe 79 dollars for an adapter is reasonable. And then additional cost to get say a card reader...

 

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter (and that adapter isn't even good. See the sub 3 stars on even Apple's site on reviews...)

[rtpb5642]

1.) Have you ever heard of an adapter? Yeah, they exist. 

2.) I remember saying "almost".

3.) You must not of looked up Macbook prices lately. There is a new Macbook that is at the lowest end of the budget. (Not saying he should go with a new one.)

4.)Only the new Macbooks use Core-M. Again, not saying he should get a new one.

 

Can you have a debate and use factual information? Not "It is a terrible choice for almost any user, and YOU need to get over the FACT that apple does NOT offer cost competitive products at any price range."

 

macbooks are not powerful and are expensive, the OP wants i7 or high end i5 so a macbook at 1200$ does not help him even with a university education discount of 100$ thats 100$ over budget and gives him an overpriced piece of shit with a low end i5