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Yeah, it is only the pricing :D

If I imported all components from the US the actual water-cooling-gear (without CPU block, just one 240 rad and only 1 GPU block) would be about 400 bucks. So I am estimating 750€ for the gear in toto. The 4790K is 350€ so I think the Skylake one will be about 400€. A good OC motherboard with SLI capability should be about 150. 16GB of DDR4 RAM might be about 120. So I would spend 1400ish bucks on this part of the upgrade. As a grand total I can probably finance a build of about 2k€ but that would be absolute maximum possible. 

So a case that is as expensive as the Corsair 900D might not fit the budged if I am willing to upgrade from 1 970 to 2.

 

NOTE: I will not upgrade my GPU now, if Nvidia was to release an HBM-Card until mid 2017, so than I could easily buy one of these very fancy cases since the second waterblock (100ish) would drop as well as the card itself (~350)

I just wanted to know what you think of the phanteks enthoo primo cause it's kinda my dream case. It doesn't have a full basement but it hides the PSU and you can put a 480mm down there, and a 480mm in the top AND a 240 on the front, it's insane. plus, it's not as expensive as the 900D, it's actually like 230 bucks on some places, and idk, i just think it's awesome and if i had to pick a case to do a custom watercooled system for myself i would with that one. 

http://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-Aluminum-Ultimate-Computer-PH-ES813P_BL/dp/B00EB0A6FE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437328330&sr=8-1&keywords=phanteks+enthoo+primo&pebp=1437328765386&perid=1AQDVJX0Z686K7B6NTPJ

 

Disclaimer: I don't own that case, i know i seem a bit fanboy right now, it's just, i think it's amazing.

Are there any decent miditowers that support like a 280/240 and a 360/420 or 2 280 radiators, have space for a nice reservoir and have a window?

I'd pref to have a basement where I can put the big radiator, but this is very optinal.

I've looked a bit on the internet and didn't find anything that really fitted those requirements as a midi-tower....

In addition to that I suspect the Fractal cases because I had trouble installing an h100i into a define r5.

I'd be extremely glad if someone could help me and if it is just telling me that I have to buy a 200 bucks big tower for my needs :)

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Best watercooling mid tower is easily the Fractal Design Define S with all HDD/SDD at the back with pre drilled mounting holes for reservoir and great radiator compatibilty at the front and top

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Are there any decent miditowers that support like a 280/240 and a 360/420 or 2 280 radiators, have space for a nice reservoir and have a window?

I'd pref to have a basement where I can put the big radiator, but this is very optinal.

I've looked a bit on the internet and didn't find anything that really fitted those requirements as a midi-tower....

In addition to that I suspect the Fractal cases because I had trouble installing an h100i into a define r5.

I'd be extremely glad if someone could help me and if it is just telling me that I have to buy a 200 bucks big tower for my needs :)

For the kind of things you want to achieve, a full tower would be better. There aren't many midi-towers which have a basement (except the Cooler Master Mastercase 5, definitely getting that when it comes out).

A Corsair 900D would be a good shout. Not sure if it has radiator support in the basement, but it should be able to fit a custom loop just fine. 

For a midi tower, the Fractal Define S looks like a good shout.

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A Corsair 900D would be a good shout. Not sure if it has radiator support in the basement, but it should be able to fit a custom loop just fine. 

Yes, it has radiator support in the basement, but it might be a little over my bugded.. (You probably can estimate by budged better than me) I want to buy a Skylake i7+a good OC mainboard, a second 970 (already got 1) and 16GB of DDR4 RAM and cool CPU and GPU with the listed radiators... I am going to spend about 1.5-2k € which is 1600-2150$ (but we pay a little more for our components here in Europe) in total (all the other components will be recycled from my old rig).

 

Do you think a 350 buck case fits in this budged? If yes this case is heaven, it got everything I'd every considered useful for the build I have in mind!

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Yes, it has radiator support in the basement, but it might be a little over my bugded.. (You probably can estimate by budged better than me) I want to buy a Skylake i7+a good OC mainboard, a second 970 (already got 1) and 16GB of DDR4 RAM and cool CPU and GPU with the listed radiators... I am going to spend about 1.5-2k € which is 1600-2150$ (but we pay a little more for our components here in Europe) in total (all the other components will be recycled from my old rig).

 

Do you think a 350 buck case fits in this budged? If yes this case is heaven, it got everything I'd every considered useful for the build I have in mind!

Know how you feel about Europe prices, man. I live in the UK.  :D 

Unfortunately, I've not tried many cases. I'm currently using a Corsair Spec-01 (looks cool, but the watercooling support is shit).

For basement rad support, a Corsair 900D would probably be the best option, unless you want to pay the significant premium for a CaseLabs case.

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Are there any decent miditowers that support like a 280/240 and a 360/420 or 2 280 radiators, have space for a nice reservoir and have a window?

I'd pref to have a basement where I can put the big radiator, but this is very optinal.

I've looked a bit on the internet and didn't find anything that really fitted those requirements as a midi-tower....

In addition to that I suspect the Fractal cases because I had trouble installing an h100i into a define r5.

I'd be extremely glad if someone could help me and if it is just telling me that I have to buy a 200 bucks big tower for my needs :)

What about phanteks? The Enthoo Primo supports a ton of watercooling gear. What confuses me a bit is, why a midtower? is it only pricing or you want a smaller rig? Cause... in the 200 bucks range you can find many high end full towers that support watercooling, and midtowers that do are usually limited, also the basement, that's a full/supertower feature.

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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What confuses me a bit is, why a midtower? is it only pricing or you want a smaller rig?

Yeah, it is only the pricing :D

If I imported all components from the US the actual water-cooling-gear (without CPU block, just one 240 rad and only 1 GPU block) would be about 400 bucks. So I am estimating 750€ for the gear in toto. The 4790K is 350€ so I think the i7-6700K could be about 400€. A good OC motherboard with SLI capability should be about 150. 16GB of DDR4 RAM might be about 120. So I would spend 1400ish bucks on this part of the upgrade. As a grand total I can probably finance a build of about 2k€ but that would be absolute maximum possible. 

So a case that is as expensive as the Corsair 900D might not fit the budged if I am willing to upgrade from 1 970 to 2.

 

NOTE: I will not upgrade my GPU now, if Nvidia was to release an HBM-Card until mid 2017, so than I could easily buy one of these very fancy cases since the second waterblock (100ish) would drop as well as the card itself (~350)

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Yeah, it is only the pricing :D

If I imported all components from the US the actual water-cooling-gear (without CPU block, just one 240 rad and only 1 GPU block) would be about 400 bucks. So I am estimating 750€ for the gear in toto. The 4790K is 350€ so I think the Skylake one will be about 400€. A good OC motherboard with SLI capability should be about 150. 16GB of DDR4 RAM might be about 120. So I would spend 1400ish bucks on this part of the upgrade. As a grand total I can probably finance a build of about 2k€ but that would be absolute maximum possible. 

So a case that is as expensive as the Corsair 900D might not fit the budged if I am willing to upgrade from 1 970 to 2.

 

NOTE: I will not upgrade my GPU now, if Nvidia was to release an HBM-Card until mid 2017, so than I could easily buy one of these very fancy cases since the second waterblock (100ish) would drop as well as the card itself (~350)

I just wanted to know what you think of the phanteks enthoo primo cause it's kinda my dream case. It doesn't have a full basement but it hides the PSU and you can put a 480mm down there, and a 480mm in the top AND a 240 on the front, it's insane. plus, it's not as expensive as the 900D, it's actually like 230 bucks on some places, and idk, i just think it's awesome and if i had to pick a case to do a custom watercooled system for myself i would with that one. 

http://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-Aluminum-Ultimate-Computer-PH-ES813P_BL/dp/B00EB0A6FE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437328330&sr=8-1&keywords=phanteks+enthoo+primo&pebp=1437328765386&perid=1AQDVJX0Z686K7B6NTPJ

 

Disclaimer: I don't own that case, i know i seem a bit fanboy right now, it's just, i think it's amazing.

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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I just wanted to know what you think of the phanteks enthoo primo

I don't like so much that it forces me to do a blue build (or switch out a lot of LED stuff).

And I think the front design is controversial..

But damn this case might be exactly what I need!

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I don't like so much that it forces me to do a blue build (or switch out a lot of LED stuff).

And I think the front design is controversial..

But damn this case might be exactly what I need!

I think there are many color vaireties including red, green and orange and a black with white leds and interior that i think looks awesome. Check the site 

http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Primo-SE.html

And if you don't like the front...well, thats a deal breaker i guess, i find it not that edgy but that's totally subjective. The other cases from the Enthoo line up don't have as much watercooling support as the Primo, but a 420 and 2 240s aint bad either, i would check the Pro and the Luxe too.

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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I've water cooled my Aerocool Dead Silence case 30mm thick rad atm thinking to upgrade to a 45mm thick rad 240mm with EK Vardar Fans

Do you use just 1 240mm rad? Because I defiantly need at least 4x120mm for the kind of OCs I try to achieve and the fan speeds I wanna run

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Do you use just 1 240mm rad? Because I defiantly need at least 4x120mm for the kind of OCs I try to achieve and the fan speeds I wanna run

well if you going for this same case then you can go for either 2x 240mm radiators one at the top and one of the front of the case depending on how many hdds you may be running in your pc the rear of the case is where i've put my reservoir so idk if one more 120mm rad could be fitted

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