Need mouse recommendation

[moonedunk]

Price doesn't matter, treating myself.

 

Gonna be using it for FPS games mostly, I don't want a small mouse that you have to curl up on.(if that makes sense) Going to be using it for 8hours at a time so something comfortable.

 

 

[nvidia_gtx]

Personally I love the Razer Mamba, I have the 2012 edition, its sleek and relatively simple, w/ 4 macro buttons on it.

It's pricey, $120USD I think.

The Razer Mamba is only for righty mouse users (I'm lefty but use a mouse righty)

[Vek1313]

G502 or Razer Deathadder since they are big and I have pretty big hands that fit them well.

[ProdigyzMined]

Corsair M65 is great, i have the RGB version and love it. I've also had the CMStorm Xornet, which was an epic mouse that served me well but is a bit cheap, but the CMStorm Spawn is basically the same thing with better build quality. Also take a look at the Corsair Sabre, however I'd suggest staying away from Razer.

[STRMfrmXMN]

Price doesn't matter, treating myself.

 

Gonna be using it for FPS games mostly, I don't want a small mouse that you have to curl up on.(if that makes sense) Going to be using it for 8hours at a time so something comfortable.

For FPS gaming you want an optical sensor so no M65. Do you use a palm, claw, fingertip or hybrid grip of some sort?

[LegacyStijncat]

For FPS gaming you want an optical sensor so no M65. Do you use a palm, claw, fingertip or hybrid grip of some sort?

Optical vs Laser doesn't matter, right?

[ProdigyzMined]

For FPS gaming you want an optical sensor so no M65. Do you use a palm, claw, fingertip or hybrid grip of some sort?

I play games like Battlefield 4 and Insurgency with the M65 and have no issues or complaints. The whole "Laser sensors suck for any real gaming" is way overhyped.

[moonedunk]

For FPS gaming you want an optical sensor so no M65. Do you use a palm, claw, fingertip or hybrid grip of some sort?

palm

[STRMfrmXMN]

I play games like Battlefield 4 and Insurgency with the M65 and have no issues or complaints. The whole "Laser sensors suck for any real gaming" is way overhyped.

Then you simply do not understand the differences. You can read the mouse link in my sig or ask @woll3, @atavax

[STRMfrmXMN]

palm

Mionix Naos 7000, perhaps an ASUS ROG Gladius. A Logitech G602 if your hands are fairly large and you're OK with wireless.

[STRMfrmXMN]

Optical vs Laser doesn't matter, right?

They will both work, an optical, in general, will work better. There's more to it than that (firmware, software, so on). To quote @woll3, (spoiler of a wall of text below)

 

Too bad that most of the Information from "Experts" is plainly wrong(i hope there is no forum police that bans me , altough the cpi video is quite correct), i dont judge you for that because common misconceptions are everywhere, but you could have done your homework better, also wtf is a "faster tracking", this doesnt exist, CPI = Sensitivity, François Morier publicly explained why high CPI is going against performance, also there are much more important values to tracking than CPI.

You are also missing a whole line of sensors, the Philips Twin Eye, which are using doppler interference to detect movement, also these are the ones when somebody says that "Laser" sensors have lower power consumption, but this doesnt translate

towards optical systems in which the actual architecture and features determines how big the power consumption is, e.g. 3310 is the LED lit variant of the A9800(they use the same DSP and share some other stuff) and both have the same power consumption.

"Newer is better" also doesnt apply to sensors, every new method that came out was "flawed" in a way for quite a while, optical sensors had a low malfunction speed when they came out(2000fps agilent sensors) and people still used their ball mice for that reason, same goes for early Laser lit sensors(A6010/6018), ONS I and PTE shared this as well. But here is the catch, while LED lit sensors for the most part have gotten straight up upgrades(A3060-->3080-->3090), the Laser lit ones have gotten a new architecture(A9500), which fixes the malfunction speed but exhibits a higher variance than the optical gaming systems, CPI in optical systems are never stable and that is called (speed related)variance, and is on the A9500 big enough that the User can actually feel, or see, what in the end is mouse acceleration. With A3090 6x SROM we also got smoothing for the first time (which ofc creates some delay as every kind of smoothing does) to counter the jitter high CPI are causing in current optical navigation systems, smoothing was then later on implemented in the "improved" version of A9500, the A9800. When it comes to Variance Twin Eye is the undisputed King with a Variance of under 0.1%, but because of the way it works, it also tracks on the Z-Axis, commonly referred to as "Z-Axis Bug", to counter that they implemented in the PLN2033 an algorithm which lowers the cpi to a minimum when the mouse is moved slowly or not at all, previous Versions didnt have this and with the latest one ,2034, it is actually toggleable.

Current trend is actually going away from Laser lit sensors, and focus more on the actual characteristics of the tracking, best example are the PMW3310 and S3988, which are practically the A9800 sensor "retrofitted" with LED illumination, note that high Variance isnt a trademark of Laser illumination but of the A9500/9800 platform, and simply the endproduct of them in combination with Laserillumination.

Also many people feel the difference between different sensors, and not only with different illumination methods, and it is frankly not "negligible", and since you are doing a guideline you should give the recommendations for the best performance, especially when it comes to something affordable like mice, also the difference between 5000 and 1000hz is not only feelable but also observable, since it directly influences the cursorpath.

About Surface compatibility, it depends on the sensormodel in use, A9500 for example cannot track on glass.

Last but not least, sensormodel alone doesnt dictate Performance, best example would be Perixx MX-1800b, which is using A3090 and hass an insanely low malfunction speed because of firmware and bad LED´s.

And there are is a lot more when it comes to mice.

I might have been "bashful" at some points but in the end i just want to help and clear up misconceptions, i also suggest reading up a bit on OCN.

Edit:

Also check out the mouse suggestion thread on OCN, i made something similar on a german forum and it works a lot better than having 5000 threads which are full of "i has mouz xy, iz bezt mouze".

[ProdigyzMined]

Then you simply do not understand the differences. You can read the mouse link in my sig or ask @woll3, @atavax

Having owned the Corsair M65 RGB, Corsair Sabre Optical and the CMStorm Xornet (also optical) i can safely say there is little to no difference, and if there is a difference it is almost imposible to notice unless you're looking for it.

[STRMfrmXMN]

Having owned the Corsair M65 RGB, Corsair Sabre Optical and the CMStorm Xornet (also optical) i can safely say there is little to no difference, and if there is a difference it is almost imposible to notice unless you're looking for it.

You may not notice a difference, however, for FPS gaming optical sensors are a superior solution to a laser sensor.

[ProdigyzMined]

You may not notice a difference, however, for FPS gaming optical sensors are a superior solution to a laser sensor.

Again, by a margin so small you'd only notice if you were looking for it.

[Aughrox]

Price doesn't matter, treating myself.

 

Gonna be using it for FPS games mostly, I don't want a small mouse that you have to curl up on.(if that makes sense) Going to be using it for 8hours at a time so something comfortable.

 

 

I Love this one. Prefect if you have logitech keyboard.

 

Logitech G502 Proteus Core

[woll3]

Again, by a margin so small you'd only notice if you were looking for it.

 

Or you simply have good muscle memory.

 

Edit: I dont know why you liked this post because i basically said that you have no(or rather bad) muscle memory.

[Flurr]

I'd say a Zowie EC1-A, it has a great sensor, is great for large hands, and is made for palm grip