Jump to content

Haswell-E vs. Skylake vs. Broadwell

MegaATVLover
 Share
Posted

So, what exactly is the difference between all these? I'm building a PC right now that has an i7-5820K (Haswell-E) in it but all these different architectures have me confused. After Skylake and Broadwell are out, is Haswell-E still gonna be the "enthusiast" chipset of choice for gaming/editing/streaming?

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/389237-haswell-e-vs-skylake-vs-broadwell/
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Haswell-E will be surpassed in IPC by Skylake and possibly Broadwell, but that won't really change much. An overclocked 4690K or 4790K can already reach better per-core performance. Haswell-E will continue to be valuable to the same people it's valuable to right now: those who need 12 or 16 logical cores, tons of quad-channel memory, and up to 40 PCIe lanes.

 

Skylake-E will come eventually, but I don't think we're even to the point where rumors exist yet. So if an i7-5820K is right for you today, it's probably still going to be right for you for awhile.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author

Haswell-E will be surpassed in IPC by Skylake and possibly Broadwell, but that won't really change much. An overclocked 4690K or 4790K can already reach better per-core performance. Haswell-E will continue to be valuable to the same people it's valuable to right now: those who need 12 or 16 logical cores, tons of quad-channel memory, and up to 40 PCIe lanes.

Skylake-E will come eventually, but I don't think we're even to the point where rumors exist yet.

IPC?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

know one knows much about the skylake chips yet. haswell-e will still be the enthusiast chip for at least another year unless intel releases a 6 core i7 on the lga 1151 socket.

 

haswell i7s are still the top of the line right now

and broadwell is a joke on desktops

CPU: I7 8700k @ 5ghz | Motherboard: Asus Z370-Prime | RAM: White Crucial balistix DDR4 2133mhz | GPU: GTX 1080TI | Storage: ssd HyperX 240gig, 2x2tb seagate Firecuda 1tb, BPX 480 gig nvme, 1tb sandisk ssd  | Cooling: Custom loop | PSU: Evga supernova 850w G2 | Case: Phanteks enthoo evolv atx black White modded | system theme: White/RGB/Weiss

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

IPC?

instructions per clock. its basicly how much a cpu can do in one cycle

CPU: I7 8700k @ 5ghz | Motherboard: Asus Z370-Prime | RAM: White Crucial balistix DDR4 2133mhz | GPU: GTX 1080TI | Storage: ssd HyperX 240gig, 2x2tb seagate Firecuda 1tb, BPX 480 gig nvme, 1tb sandisk ssd  | Cooling: Custom loop | PSU: Evga supernova 850w G2 | Case: Phanteks enthoo evolv atx black White modded | system theme: White/RGB/Weiss

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Broadwell is the next-gen CPU after Haswell/Haswell-e; it's mainly focused on improved efficiency and better built-in GPU. It's basically only going to available on mobile systems. So nothing important.

Skylake is the next-gen CPU after Broadwell. It should offer a good IPC performance increase from haswell. 

Cannonlake is the following CPU gen. 

 

As a 5820k owner this is what you need to know. The 5820k is a beast and overkill. It easily overclocks to 4.4ghz (same as factory 4790k) and during gaming I rarely even see 40% CPU usage. In other words it's got plenty of headroom for the future.  With a 5820k you'll be fine skipping skylake and maybe want to upgrade for cannonlake. Slight perk of going 5820k right now is you can reuse your new DDR4 ram in the future when you upgrade. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Broadwell is only a joke because they didn't even bother releasing an broadwell chip with comparable power usage to the current lineup. 65W max and it actually preforms fairly well compared to locked current i7s with 84-88 W TDP. Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone manage to overclock the 5775c that high either.

LINK-> Kurald Galain:  The Night Eternal 

Top 5820k, 980ti SLI Build in the World*

CPU: i7-5820k // GPU: SLI MSI 980ti Gaming 6G // Cooling: Full Custom WC //  Mobo: ASUS X99 Sabertooth // Ram: 32GB Crucial Ballistic Sport // Boot SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB

Mass SSD: Crucial M500 960GB  // PSU: EVGA Supernova 850G2 // Case: Fractal Design Define S Windowed // OS: Windows 10 // Mouse: Razer Naga Chroma // Keyboard: Corsair k70 Cherry MX Reds

Headset: Senn RS185 // Monitor: ASUS PG348Q // Devices: Note 10+ - Surface Book 2 15"

LINK-> Ainulindale: Music of the Ainur 

Prosumer DYI FreeNAS

CPU: Xeon E3-1231v3  // Cooling: Noctua L9x65 //  Mobo: AsRock E3C224D2I // Ram: 16GB Kingston ECC DDR3-1333

HDDs: 4x HGST Deskstar NAS 3TB  // PSU: EVGA 650GQ // Case: Fractal Design Node 304 // OS: FreeNAS

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

I should also add that rumors say skyline will give a 20% improvement on IPC performance. However unless Intel upgrades the mainstream CPU from 4 cores to 6 cores, the 5820k will still be more powerful.

 

Let's just say each CPU core is worth 100 points. 

 

5820k = 6 cores * 100 points = 600 points

Skylake = 4 cores * 20% improvement * 100 points = 480 points

 

With 6 cores you'll still have the upper hand when it comes to rendering and streaming. As for gaming, like I said, you got plenty of headroom with a 5820k so you'll be fine on that front too. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Broadwell is only a joke because they didn't even bother releasing an broadwell chip with comparable power usage to the current lineup. 65W max and it actually preforms fairly well compared to locked current i7s with 84-88 W TDP. Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone manage to overclock the 5775c that high either.

Broadwell is meant for people who want to only use integrated graphics. Most probably for institutions like schools and such when having 1000+ computers the 20W will actually matter because suddenly its like 20000W difference. 

Intel 4790 K - R9 295X2 - Gigabyte Z97-SLI - Corsair Vengeance Pro Black 1866 CAL9 - Corsair HX 1000 -Samsung 850 EVO SSD - Samsung HDD - H100I - Corsair C70 - G400 Logitech - Asus VS247H - WASD custom mechanical and QCKPAD! 

Staples of LTT: Getting an 4690 K will resurrect your lost family members, AMD = More heat thus AMD = Satan. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Broadwell-E is coming Q1 2016 and will probably be 10 cores on the high end....but don't think that has been finalized yet.  8 cores is for sure going to be in the lineup.  It will be compatible with Haswell-E mobos so getting Haswell-E now isn't pidgeonholing you into being obsolete next year.

 

Skylake CPUs have already been benchmarked and the IPC isn't anything surprising

Workstation:  9800X3D|| Asus X670E ProArt Creator || MSI Gaming Trio 4090 Shunt || T.Force 7800CL34 || Corsair AX1600i@240V || whole-house loop.

LANRig/GuestGamingBox: 13700K @ Stock || MSI Z690 DDR4 || ASUS TUF 3090 650W shunt || Corsair SF600 || CPU+GPU watercooled 280 rad pull only || whole-house loop.

Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ P-Core only || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop

Server Compute/Storage: 10850K @ 5.1Ghz || Gigabyte Z490 Ultra || EVGA FTW3 3090 1000W || LSI 9280i-24 port || 4TB Samsung 860 Evo, 5x10TB Seagate Enterprise Raid 6, 4x8TB Seagate Archive Backup ||  whole-house loop.

Laptop: HP Elitebook 840 G8 (Intel 1185G7) + 4070 RTX Thunderbolt Dock, Razer Blade Stealth 13" 2017 (Intel 8550U)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory

×