Help build

EvilShadow772 · June 15, 2015

Hi there

So i'm thinking about building my own pc and i wanted some feedback about the parts

It's my first time so i don't want to mess up.

Here's the list:

Motherboard:

Asus x99-a

CPU :

Intel i7 5820k 3.3Ghz

CPU Cooler :

corsair h100i

Case :

Nzxt phantom big tower or nzxt noctis 450

Power supply:

Cooler Master G750M (750W)

GPU :

Gigabyte gtx 980ti 6GB

HDD :

1XSSD 256MB

1xHDD WD black 1TB

RAM :

2X8GB FURY DDR4 2133MHz

I would like some suggestions

thanks

Gwenchy · June 15, 2015

that looks like a good build, i was wondering what your budget is and i could help squeeze some more performance into it possibly. just let me know

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MG2R · June 15, 2015

Hi, @EvilShadow772!

Welcome to the forums! To make sure you get the best help we can offer you,

I've moved your thread to the "New Builds and Planning" section of the forum,

as it's more appropriate over there.

To make sure you find your own thread again, I've tagged you in this post. You can

tag people by writing their user name with a '@' in front of it, like I did above. People

That get tagged will be notified of that, as do people that get quoted. You can

quote people by clicking the "quote" button on the respective post.

Have fun!

PS: when asking for help on a build, please do explain your use case and budget!

EvilShadow772 · June 15, 2015

that looks like a good build, i was wondering what your budget is and i could help squeeze some more performance into it possibly. just let me know

EvilShadow772 · June 15, 2015

I live in Switzerland I don't have a budget but I don't want to spend a lot of money.

MG2R · June 15, 2015

I live in Switzerland I don't have a budget but I don't want to spend a lot of money.

... so you do have a budget What is "a lot of money"?

@alpenwasser, hulp?

EvilShadow772 · June 16, 2015

@MG2R

Well yes I have 1800.- Swiss Francs that's 1935 Us dollars.

and with the list I posted above I am at the my limit

MG2R · June 16, 2015

I have 1800.- Swiss Francs that's 1935 Us dollars.

What is your use case? Is this strictly for gaming, or will there be other work done on the PC (editing, streaming, baking eggs,...)

brob · June 16, 2015

@EvilShadow772,

How will the system be used?

On X99 platforms 4x4GB is a much better choice for 16GB of memory as that would provide quad channel memory operation.

There are much better psu options.

MG2R · June 16, 2015

On X99 platforms 4x4GB is a much better choice for 16GB of memory as that would provide quad channel memory operation.

Above dual channel, memory speed really has no noticable impact on performance anymore. It's better to save the DIMM slots for later use, should the need arrise.

brob · June 16, 2015

Above dual channel, memory speed really has no noticable impact on performance anymore. It's better to save the DIMM slots for later use, should the need arrise.

Do you have any hard data on this?

As to the conclusion, I have to disagree. If one anticipates needing more than 48GB of memory, get an X99 motherboard that supports 128GB or start with 4x8GB.

EvilShadow772 · June 16, 2015

@brob

for the psu I know I had better options but right now I'll go with I'll buy a better one later.

the pc I'll use for gaming. Daily use and ocacionaly for some VM

MG2R · June 16, 2015

Do you have any hard data on this?

As to the conclusion, I have to disagree. If one anticipates needing more than 48GB of memory, get an X99 motherboard that supports 128GB or start with 4x8GB.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-Core-i7-Nehalem,2057-13.html

http://techreport.com/review/15967/exploring-the-impact-of-memory-speed-on-core-i7-performance/8

Conclusion: synthetic benchmarks that test raw throughput will see the difference, scientific programs that crunch numbers by the GB/s might see the difference, gaming and general purpose computing won't see a difference. If there is a difference, it's on such a level our human brains won't be able to perceive it.

There's a same tendency with memory bandwith (MHz), as demonstrated by Linus:

@brob

for the psu I know I had better options but right now I'll go with I'll buy a better one later.

the pc I'll use for gaming. Daily use and ocacionaly for some VM

You could save yourself quite some money by staying away from the X99 platform. There's not really a reason to go there with your use case.

EvilShadow772 · June 16, 2015

@MG2R

I could change my motherboard, but I'll need to change my CPU and my RAM aswell then.

Also I want to build something that is gonna last a while.

EvilShadow772 · June 16, 2015

After doing some research considering your suggestions.

i thought about remplacing my motherboard for the gigabyte GA-z97X-Gaming 5

to pick up 2X8Go of DDR3 1600MHz

and an i7 4790K 4.00Ghz

MG2R · June 16, 2015

Also I want to build something that is gonna last a while.

Well, it's economically way more viable to buy whatever is appropriate for your use case now and then upgrading in a couple of years should the current machine prove inadequate (which, btw, often takes longer than you'd expect). I don't know how old you are, but remember that needs and use cases tend to change over time, especially if you're in you teens. It's hard to predict what you'll be using your computer for in a year or two. For instance, my gaming rig has been gathering dust for the last 6 months because I kinda lost interest in gaming by growing older. Right now I'm back to using a laptop docked on my desk as a daily driver.

Also, keep in mind that processor speed has been stagnating for quite some time now. My four year old mobile i5 (2520M) is still capable of running games (if coupled with a dedicated GPU, obviously) and doing desktop productivity stuff. For gaming, it's mostly GPUs that need to be upgraded down the road (and even there, it isn't really going forward at the pace it used to). To give you a reference: my gaming rig (3570K, GTX670, CX500, 8 GB RAM) still proves more than adequate for most of today's games, and (at three years) that machine is reasonably old now.

What I'd recommend is buying a 1000-1200 euro system now and seeing where it leads you, that price point tends to be the sweet spot for performance/$. Upgrade specific components in the future, should they ever become inadequate. If your goal is to just have a freaking baller system which maximizes your e-peen, then your proposed system is the way to go (although a bit of a waste of money, in my eyes).

MG2R · June 16, 2015

After doing some research considering your suggestions.

i thought about remplacing my motherboard for the gigabyte GA-z97X-Gaming 5

to pick up 2X8Go of DDR3 1600MHz

and an i7 4790K 4.00Ghz

That seems like a sweet system. What price point does that come at? Since this is pure for gaming, you might want to consider going with a quadcore i5, the extra hyperthreadedness of the i7 won't really help your fps go any higher

EvilShadow772 · June 16, 2015

@MG2R

With every thing i'am at 1800$.

i managed to save a bit of money.

EvilShadow772 · June 16, 2015

@MG2R

I saw what you mean, i'm 19 so yeah right now i do play times to times, i love games like h1z1 or rust and my current pc doesn't keep up that's one of the reasons i'm building my own pc but i wonder if it isn't to much.

The main thing i should be concerned is the GPU. CPU i got a buddy who has an i7 4790k and he says that playing games he only uses 30-40% of his CPU. so no need to buy the most powerfull CPU in the market

MG2R · June 16, 2015

I saw what you mean, i'm 19 so yeah right now i do play times to times, i love games like h1z1 or rust and my current pc doesn't keep up that's one of the reasons i'm building my own pc but i wonder if it isn't to much.

The main thing i should be concerned is the GPU. CPU i got a buddy who has an i7 4790k and he says that playing games he only uses 30-40% of his CPU. so no need to buy the most powerfull CPU in the market

Well, what I'd do in you case is go for i5, 16 GB RAM, GTX980 Ti (because you want a beast GPU). The i7 will most likely be overkill, as you can see with your friend's system.

This is something I just threw together on PC partpicker. I just picked the cheapest RAM and the cheapest GPU in the list. I think that system should do nicely. You could still save some $$$ on the case and motherboard, the PSU may also be stepped a notch down but keeping at 750 W makes it operate in its ideal range under full load.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.77 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.00 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($91.46 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.98 @ B&H)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($649.99 @ B&H)

Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($199.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($52.00 @ Newegg)

Total: $1505.17

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 06:59 EDT-0400

EvilShadow772 · June 16, 2015

@MG2R That is a nice build. I'll follow your advices just one more question I'm thinking about picking up the nzxt noctis 450 and I'm scared that the corsair h100i won't fit on the top fan pannel

MG2R · June 16, 2015

I'm scared that the corsair h100i won't fit on the top fan pannel

Looking at pictures and specs on the NZXT website, it should fit without an issue. Can't give you guarantees though, haven't worked with the case yet...

EDIT: you could ask in the Cases and Power Supplies section if anyone has a definitive answer on this one...