A stupid question

[CreepX]

Out of curiosity , which AMD CPU is the best for gaming at this moment , and what motherboard is the best for overclocking that specific CPU ( And if possible 1 cheap but good motherboard 1 middle priced and 1 expensive motherboard ) . I don't want to buy an AMD pc for gaming , I am just asking out of curiosity .

[Sam Z Man]

860K is good for being dirt cheap, everything else is garbage.

[minibois]

Pure best AMD CPU for gaming (not looking at price) right now is probably the FX 8350. Not looking at the 9590 right now..

But that is not saying much, you are better off with Intel.

 

The motherboard you should get with that is probably something 990X. You could also go 970X, but eh.. You want to be able to OC that thing real good.

[Manny Calavera]

8320 because its cheap and you can overclock it yourself

 

for mobo 970 gaming from msi probably

[CreepX]

Well ofc I am going with intel , but what about AMD Athlon X4 860K ? It's literally dirt cheap here , is it any good ? I know Sam Z Man I just want to see more opinions .

[_Mish]

8320 because its cheap and you can overclock it yourself

 

for mobo 970 gaming from msi probably

I can agree with this, as i just bought one

 

The price to performance point is REALLY good. 

[Sam Z Man]

Well ofc I am going with intel , but what about AMD Athlon X4 860K ? It's literally dirt cheap here , is it any good ? I know Sam Z Man I just want to see more opinions .

The 860K is good for a super tight budget gaming pc at around the 350$ mark.

I can agree with this, as i just bought one

 

The price to performance point is REALLY good.

Not in games it isn't, Intel beats it by miles.

[minibois]

Well ofc I am going with intel , but what about AMD Athlon X4 860K ? It's literally dirt cheap here , is it any good ? I know Sam Z Man I just want to see more opinions .

It's alright for a low budget build in which you want a quad core.

I would take the 860K over the Pentium for a gaming build, if you are not planning to upgrade CPU. But it will bottleneck pretty much anything over  the 280(x).

 

But it's only a little bit more for something like an i3 4160..

[IateMApoo]

AMD FX 8320 and any 990FX based mobo, preferebly from Asus or MSI.

[incarnate]

Well, ignoring being better off with an i3, an 8350 would be amds best cpu. You can't really go with a cheap mobo for it though. A good 970 chip set board is the bare minimum, 990fx being recommended. But again better to go Intel.

[Manny Calavera]

Well, ignoring being better off with an i3, an 8350 would be amds best cpu. You can't really go with a cheap mobo for it though. A good 970 chip set board is the bare minimum, 990fx being recommended. But again better to go Intel.

chipset means nothing for power delivery

you have 970 gaming from msi that have power delivery to support 200w 9590

 

The 860K is good for a super tight budget gaming pc at around the 350$ mark.

Not in games it isn't, Intel beats it by miles.

The 860K is good for a super tight budget gaming pc at around the 350$ mark.

Not in games it isn't, Intel beats it by miles.

pentium is better in games and you can overclock it on 50$ board

[ApolloEleven]

What is the best single-threaded AMD CPU at stock speed? (Apart from the FX-9xxx)

[typographie]

What is the best single-threaded AMD CPU at stock speed? (Apart from the FX-9xxx)

 

The one at the highest clock speed. The FX-x3xx's are all the same architecture, so all the same IPC.

[i_build_nanosuits]

which AMD CPU is the best for gaming at this moment

at this moment, the best AMD CPU for gaming is the core i5-4460.

[kipper]

at this moment, the best AMD CPU for gaming is the core i5-4460.

That would be a Phenom x6/ 6300 but k.

[Nena Trinity]

Right now? Well FX-8370 and FX-9590... But they struggle in many games! Until DX12 comes they are gonna keep struggle on all non multi-core supported games and even then some only support 4...

 

DX12 fixes it so all 8 will be used and then i5-4690K is weaker!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-why-directx-12-is-a-gamechanger

 

For mobo I guess the MSI 970 Gaming is the cheapest you can go? (you may have to update the BIOS...)

FX-9590 is just stupid to buy... (and it needs a 990FX mobo...)

[incarnate]

DX12 fixes it so all 8 will be used and then i5-4690K is weaker!

People said the same thing when battlefield 4 was being made, and when the consoles got 8 core cpus. I highly doubt that dx 12 will make the fx cpus better than i5s. But it will help amd a lot, one games finally start using the tech

[Nena Trinity]

People said the same thing when battlefield 4 was being made, and when the consoles got 8 core cpus. I highly doubt that dx 12 will make the fx cpus better than i5s. But it will help amd a lot, one games finally start using the tech

To me the problem was DX11... I kind a hated it to and I AM NOT EVEN A DEV!

[incarnate]

To me the problem was DX11... I kind a hated it to and I AM NOT EVEN A DEV!

I hope dx 12 spreads quickly. Definitely going to be a game changer

[Nena Trinity]

I hope dx 12 spreads quickly. Definitely going to be a game changer

Well I do not expect a miracle just that it is better!

[i_build_nanosuits]

DX12 fixes it so all 8 will be used and then i5-4690K is weaker!

lol that will never happen...stronger and faster CPU cores will always reign supreme in gaming...and the i5-4690K has VASTLY superior architecture and is much faster. Don't forget DX12 will greatly improve performance with intel CPU's as well...not just AMD...the AMD FX is and will remain in the bottom stack in gaming...forever.

DX12 might help AMD FX to catch up with the core i3 though...but that will ONLY be in games developed FOR dx12...all the DX11 games will still run like crap on them...and it will take time for DX12 to be widely adopted by the game developers...so don't expect to see any DX12 optimized games hit the shelves any time soon...and when they actually will release the AMD AM3+ platform will already be nearly 10 years old and long obsolete...that's the sad truth about DX12...now please do me a favor and change your sig...cause this is NEVER gonna happen...thanks!

[typographie]

but that will ONLY be in games developed FOR dx12...

 

It may not even be all of those. It's ultimately up to the developers to use their resources how they see fit. Just because DX12 may give them the tools to make better use of multi-threading doesn't mean they will always need to. Even right now, current Core i5's and i7's have so much overhead in most games at 60 FPS that they could probably handle a greater CPU load from future games and still hang in there.

 

Ultimately how the developers choose to implement multi-threading in their games is going to be partially informed by how much of the audience has a CPU with a lot of cores. And Intel dominates the market with their dual/quad/hyperthreaded products.

[Nena Trinity]

It may not even be all of those. It's ultimately up to the developers to use their resources how they see fit. Just because DX12 may give them the tools to make better use of multi-threading doesn't mean they will always need to. Even right now, current Core i5's and i7's have so much overhead in most games at 60 FPS that they could probably handle a greater CPU load from future games and still hang in there.

 

Ultimately how the developers choose to implement multi-threading in their games is going to be partially informed by how much of the audience has a CPU with a lot of cores. And Intel dominates the market with their dual/quad/hyperthreaded products.

But if they make it compatible with i7s 8 treads then it will be for all CPUs with 8 treads.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-why-directx-12-is-a-gamechanger

Also GPUs will be better!

 

lol that will never happen...stronger and faster CPU cores will always reign supreme in gaming...and the i5-4690K has VASTLY superior architecture and is much faster. Don't forget DX12 will greatly improve performance with intel CPU's as well...not just AMD...the AMD FX is and will remain in the bottom stack in gaming...forever.

DX12 might help AMD FX to catch up with the core i3 though...but that will ONLY be in games developed FOR dx12...all the DX11 games will still run like crap on them...and it will take time for DX12 to be widely adopted by the game developers...so don't expect to see any DX12 optimized games hit the shelves any time soon...and when they actually will release the AMD AM3+ platform will already be nearly 10 years old and long obsolete...that's the sad truth about DX12...now please do me a favor and change your sig...cause this is NEVER gonna happen...thanks! 

 

It's difficult to recommend anything other than a Core i5 processor for mainstream enthusiast PC gaming. Looking at the table, you can see why - the fast single thread performance helps AMD's sub-optimal DX11 driver become more viable for enthusiast-level GPUs, while Nvidia's results go stratospheric.

But what's curious is that Nvidia's multi-threading support for its DX11 interface actually sees the FX 8350 pump through more draw calls than the i5. Also fascinating is that DX12's multi-thread support sees the vintage 2012 AMD chip trade blows with the i5 - a chip that launched two years later.

 

 

Mainstream CPUs GeForce GTX 750 Ti Radeon R7 260X GeForce GTX 970 Radeon R9 290X i5 4690K DX11 Single Thread 1.2m 1.1m 2.0m 1.1m i5 4690K DX11 Multi-Thread 1.4m 1.1m 2.4m 1.0m i5 4690K DX11 Mantle - 13.3m - 15.2m i5 4690K DX12 7.5m 14.4m 16.0m 15.9m FX 8350 DX11 Single Thread 1.2m 0.7m 1.2m 0.7m FX 8350 DX11 Multi-Thread 2.1m 0.7m 2.1m 0.7m FX 8350 DX11 Mantle - 10.0m - 13.2m FX 8350 DX12 7.1m 12.4m 13.5m 14.7m

 

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-why-directx-12-is-a-gamechanger

[typographie]

But if they make it compatible with i7s 8 treads then it will be for all CPUs with 8 treads.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-why-directx-12-is-a-gamechanger

Also GPUs will be better!

 

Yeah, but how many gamers really have i7's? Developers don't usually target the absolute highest tiers. They're going to need their games to continue to run fine on quad core systems for some time, at least until 6- and 8-core CPUs become more mainstream—which is probably going to take Intel offering them as $150–250 products.

 

And, yes, the FX-6300 and 8350 are available at more mainstream prices, but that's still a fraction of the smaller AMD market share.

[incarnate]

Yeah, but how many gamers really have i7's? Developers don't usually target the absolute highest tiers. They're going to need their games to continue to run fine on quad core systems for some time, at least until 6- and 8-core CPUs become more mainstream—which is probably going to take Intel offering them as $150–250 products.

 

And, yes, the FX-6300 and 8350 are available at more mainstream prices, but that's still a fraction of the smaller AMD market share.

 

its like i said before, quad core intels will still be the sweet spot for gaming until 6 core i5s have been around for at least 2 generations.