Upgraded to 970 getting lower fps on lower end games

[odevries]

Hey guys,

I recently upgraded from the Asus GTX 760 to the Asus GTX 970, on higher end games such as the Witcher 3 its a huge improvement (from low to ultra/high). However on lower end games such as League of Legends and Minecraft my FPS actually went down a lot. Anyone have an idea why? I have installed all the latest drivers. 

Rest of specs (if that matters):

I5 4670k @ 3.4ghz

8GB RAM

Asus z97k

GTX 970

1TB Western Digital HDD

 

Thanks

[AnnoyedShelf]

Hey guys,

I recently upgraded from the Asus GTX 760 to the Asus GTX 970, on higher end games such as the Witcher 3 its a huge improvement (from low to ultra/high). However on lower end games such as League of Legends and Minecraft my FPS actually went down a lot. Anyone have an idea why? I have installed all the latest drivers. 

Rest of specs (if that matters):

I5 4670k @ 3.4ghz

8GB RAM

Asus z97k

GTX 970

1TB Western Digital HDD

 

Thanks

Are your drivers up to date?  You should easily get 200+ FPS on LoL maxed out.

[Fluxx]

What fps are you getting?

[odevries]

What fps are you getting?

I am getting around 250 fps so really nothing to complain about however thats the same as when i had the 760, however on minecraft its more drastic: I used to get up to 1000fps now i get a mere 120 ish.

[LegacyStijncat]

I am getting around 250 fps so really nothing to complain about however thats the same as when i had the 760, however on minecraft its more drastic: I used to get up to 1000fps now i get a mere 120 ish.

Welcome to LinusDontBeAnFPSFreakWhenNotNeededTips!

Your monitor, unless it's 120/140 hz, can't show any more than 60 FPS!

Until next time!

[odevries]

Welcome to LinusDontBeAnFPSFreakWhenNotNeededTips!

Your monitor, unless it's 120/140 hz, can't show any more than 60 FPS!

Until next time!

Isn't that only if you have vsync on?

[Fluxx]

I am getting around 250 fps so really nothing to complain about however thats the same as when i had the 760, however on minecraft its more drastic: I used to get up to 1000fps now i get a mere 120 ish.

Sometimes at high fps like 1000fps cards can make a coil whine noise, so i'm guessing its limiting the fps to prevent coil whine.

[LegacyStijncat]

Isn't that only if you have vsync on?

Ah, so you are new to this stuff!

Allow me to explain! (Sorry if I came over like I was an a****** before )

 

Monitors have a refresh rate, measured in Hz. That's how much times they refresh their images per second (I think it was seconds, not sure).

The standard right now is 60Hz. Meaning that, 60 times per second, your frames get refreshed. If you get 70 frames per second, it won't matter. Only 60 of these will be shown.

If you have an high end panel though (120Hz/144Hz), it will show 120FPS/144FPS or lower.

 

V-Sync, on the other hand, is something that is quite bad in quite some ways, in as much ways as it is good.

If you get more FPS than the monitors refresh rate, screen tearing can occur. This can become annoying (this is partially resolved in some monitors using G-Sync or Free-Sync, but that's a story for another time).

So, V-Sync was made (since G/Free-Sync didn't exist back than). V-Sync is a software in the software itself. First, it reads how much Hz the monitor has. After that, it forces your graphics card to pause for some time if it tries to get higher than your monitors refresh rate. So if you would get 61FPS+ on a 60 Hz monitor with V-Sync on, your Graphics Card will wait until the monitor has catched up.

 

Is screen tearing annoying? To some people, yeah. If it burdens you too much, you can turn on V-Sync. But since V-Sync has it's own flaws, G/Free-Sync has been created.

Edited June 7, 2015 by Stijncat

[Bobe]

Isn't that only if you have vsync on?

 

The GPU will render as many frames as it can in a given amount of time, the monitor however will refresh the display at a fixed rate (60 times per second, 120 times per second, etc.). So even if the GPU is rendering 120 frames per second, the monitor can only "show" 60 of those frames, which is why you get tearing if the rendered fps does not match the monitor's refresh rate (VSync).

 

Personally I don't see any point in making the GPU render more frames than your monitor can display. If I have a 60 Hz monitor, I'll always VSync to 60 fps.

[Lewellyn]

I am getting around 250 fps so really nothing to complain about however thats the same as when i had the 760, however on minecraft its more drastic: I used to get up to 1000fps now i get a mere 120 ish.

 

... i never got 1000 fps on my gtx 760....

[LegacyStijncat]

however on minecraft its more drastic: I used to get up to 1000fps now i get a mere 120 ish.

Umm...

OP?

 

I'm going to quote Paul (Watch between 5:00 an 6:00 if you don't believe me)

Benchmarks said, basically, averaging around 300 frames per second.

Now, I would like you to explain how your old GTX 760 beats 4 WAY SLI GTX TITAN'S.

[Lewellyn]

k. I'm gonna lock down the issue with this topic aside from the fact that OP doesn't understand monitor refresh rates in relation to rendering + displaying frames.

 

Minecraft is a CPU bound/bottlenecked game and poorly optimized and coded in all regards. So is League of Legends to a lesser extent. You are better off testing with high grade AAA titles to see the difference in power between hardware. I get around 800 fps standing still and 400 fps moving around on my GTX 970. The difference between 1000 fps and 300 fps is no useful indicator of performance. Older titles and indie titles can definitely have less support for software and hardware which leads to them also having this problem. Your Witcher 3 results are the reliable results.

 

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[CalculuS]

970's are finicky on when to boost sometimes in lower-end games.

 

Check your GPU clockspeed while gaming.

[odevries]

Umm...

OP?

 

I'm going to quote Paul (Watch between 5:00 an 6:00 if you don't believe me)

Now, I would like you to explain how your old GTX 760 beats 4 WAY SLI GTX TITAN'S.

Perhaps there was a mistake then