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Hey guys,

 

I'm buying my new computer tonight and would like to have feedback before I buy it. I've been reading everything on LTT to try to get everything to the top with my budget(2600$ with tax, Canadian money). Open for suggestions!!

 

 

 

There's my Build:

 

CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K 
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 1 4GB GDDR5 
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VII Hero
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB 
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
Hard Drive HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 750W 80 Plus Gold
DVD Player/Burner: ASUS (DRW-24F1ST/BLK/B) Internal 24x DVD Writer
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 
Fans: Corsair Air Series AF120 x2
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144hz 
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 
 
 
Thanks!! :D
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What's the system being used for? Are you planning to sli?

Why a 144hz TN panel instead of a better looking TN? Is the optical drive really necessary?

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looks nice but MBO is overkill, it doesn't affect performance so get something like ASUS Z97 AR instead and save money, if it is gaming PC get i5 4690K instead of i7, use saved money to get second 970 (even if you will have to save up a little more, it is worth it) with 2x 970s EVGA750G2 is perfect but if you don't plan to SLI it is overkill.  :)

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Save some money and buy an MSI Gaming 5 instead, the Hero is over rated and costs way too much for what it does.

 

 

What's the system being used for? Are you planning to sli?

Why a 144hz TN panel instead of a better looking TN? Is the optical drive really necessary?

 

 

looks nice but MBO is overkill, it doesn't affect performance so get something like ASUS Z97 AR instead and save money, if it is gaming PC get i5 4690K instead of i7, use saved money to get second 970 (even if you will have to save up a little more, it is worth it) with 2x 970s EVGA750G2 is perfect but if you don't plan to SLI it is overkill.  :)

I will be playing alot of the AAA games out and yes i plan to SLI in 6 months or so. Most of the games I play are FPS so that why I wanted a 144hz monitor and I don't have the money to get a 144hz IPS.

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Motherboard is a waste of money IMHO. The price premium is not worth the 1.01 or whatever average FPS gain over a more sensible option like The MSI Gaming 5/3 or a Gigabyte Z97-UD3H or a Z97X-Gaming 3. As one of the chaps above pointed out you can swap the i7 for an equal-performing-in-games i5 and get another GTX 970 with the mobo savings. For the monitor, I would go with the Dell U2515H in that price range but that's up to you since I value colour and resolution a lot more than the high refresh rate you can get from not-so-eye-pleasing TN screens. 

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Motherboard is a waste of money IMHO. The price premium is not worth the 1.01 or whatever average FPS gain over a more sensible option like The MSI Gaming 5/3 or a Gigabyte Z97-UD3H or a Z97X-Gaming 3. As one of the chaps above pointed out you can swap the i7 for an equal-performing-in-games i5 and get another GTX 970 with the mobo savings. For the monitor, I would go with the Dell U2515H in that price range but that's up to you since I value colour and resolution a lot more than the high refresh rate you can get from not-so-eye-pleasing TN screens. 

The monitor is not available at the store I will get all my parts(canadacomputers.com). So what everyone is saying is to change my mobo for a cheaper one and go for a i5 4690K, get 2xGTX 970. But why is the i5 4690k at 3.5ghz is equal to the i7 4790k at 4.4ghz?

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You Could in theory downgrade to the Hero VI - From previous experiences the BIOS is exactly the same and you wont have any problems

And If you Want to Spend the money you save on extra 8GB of ram.

 

IF IN DOUBT(You need serious money)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fCv7qs

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fCv7qs/by_merchant/
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($997.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($118.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($449.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($1684.25 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($389.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($389.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($231.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($231.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case  ($334.99 @ Directron) 
Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($406.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit)  ($174.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm  Fans  ($27.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($1979.99 @ Adorama) 
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($1979.99 @ Adorama) 
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($1979.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.00 @ NCIX US) 
Mouse: Razer Naga Molten Wired Laser Mouse  ($173.99 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Sennheiser HD800 Headphones  ($1402.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $17125.84
 
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The monitor is not available at the store I will get all my parts(canadacomputers.com). So what everyone is saying is to change my mobo for a cheaper one and go for a i5 4690K, get 2xGTX 970. But why is the i5 4690k at 3.5ghz is equal to the i7 4790k at 4.4ghz?

Because FPS games are much more reliant on GPU power than the 4 hyperthreads you get from an i7. You see, an i7 is an i5 with hyperthreading enabled. You won't notice a difference in the games you're planning to play; 3-5 frames at the most. And the i5 boosts to 3.9 GHZ IIRC, if the .5 GHz difference irks you you can always OC an i5 - they're great for that.

 

 [1] METRO: LAST LIGHT - BEST LOOKING FPS EVER MADE

 

1920 x 1080, max details, max AA, max AF fps Index

 

                                               FPS               index

Core i7-4770K Stock              39.90            100.00 %

Core i7-4770K 4.5Ghz           40.27            100.93 %

Core i5-4670K Stock              40.34            101.10 %

Core i5-4670K 4.5Ghz            40.26            100.90 %

 

 

 

TOTAL PERFORMANCE INDEX - average of 10 programs inc. 3D MARK and UNIGINE HEAVEN

 

   

High Settings Index

Core i7-4770K Stock            100.00 %

Core i7-4770K 4.5G             101.12 %

Core i5-4670K Stock            99.83 %

Core i5-4670K 4.5G             100.81 %

 

As we can see an i7 gives you approx 1% advantage in games - BARELY. These are not the Devil's Canyon chips but they're on the exact same arch and you can expect relative results within margin of error. To notice a difference, you need a weak GPU, which a 970 isn't. An extra 970 will give you tons more perf. compared to i7 vs. i5, which is why we highly recommend the SLI option instead. 

 

If you want the benchmarks specifically for the Devil's Canyon chips, check this link http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k/4

 

[1] http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=11

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I will be playing alot of the AAA games out and yes i plan to SLI in 6 months or so. Most of the games I play are FPS so that why I wanted a 144hz monitor and I don't have the money to get a 144hz IPS.

Unless you're gaming competitively, I'd suggest getting a higher resolution IPS panel for the much better viewing experience. 

As for the optical drive--is it really necessary?

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You Could in theory downgrade to the Hero VI - From previous experiences the BIOS is exactly the same and you wont have any problems

And If you Want to Spend the money you save on extra 8GB of ram.

 

IF IN DOUBT(You need serious money)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fCv7qs

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fCv7qs/by_merchant/
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($997.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($118.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($449.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($1684.25 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($389.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($389.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($231.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($231.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (4-Way SLI)  ($999.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case  ($334.99 @ Directron) 
Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($406.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit)  ($174.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm  Fans  ($27.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($1979.99 @ Adorama) 
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($1979.99 @ Adorama) 
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($1979.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.00 @ NCIX US) 
Mouse: Razer Naga Molten Wired Laser Mouse  ($173.99 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Sennheiser HD800 Headphones  ($1402.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $17125.84
 
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Unless you're gaming competitively, I'd suggest getting a higher resolution IPS panel for the much better viewing experience. 

As for the optical drive--is it really necessary?

No I'm not gaming in competition, what would you suggest me, something below 450$? The optical drive is only 20$ and sometimes I make dvds or Cds.

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Because FPS games are much more reliant on GPU power than the 4 hyperthreads you get from an i7. You see, an i7 is an i5 with hyperthreading enabled. You won't notice a difference in the games you're planning to play; 3-5 frames at the most. And the i5 boosts to 3.9 GHZ IIRC, if the .5 GHz difference irks you you can always OC an i5 - they're great for that.

 

 [1] METRO: LAST LIGHT - BEST LOOKING FPS EVER MADE

 

1920 x 1080, max details, max AA, max AF fps Index

 

                                               FPS               index

Core i7-4770K Stock              39.90            100.00 %

Core i7-4770K 4.5Ghz           40.27            100.93 %

Core i5-4670K Stock              40.34            101.10 %

Core i5-4670K 4.5Ghz            40.26            100.90 %

 

 

 

TOTAL PERFORMANCE INDEX - average of 10 programs inc. 3D MARK and UNIGINE HEAVEN

 

   

High Settings Index

Core i7-4770K Stock            100.00 %

Core i7-4770K 4.5G             101.12 %

Core i5-4670K Stock            99.83 %

Core i5-4670K 4.5G             100.81 %

 

As we can see an i7 gives you approx 1% advantage in games - BARELY. These are not the Devil's Canyon chips but they're on the exact same arch and you can expect relative results within margin of error. To notice a difference, you need a weak GPU, which a 970 isn't. An extra 970 will give you tons more perf. compared to i7 vs. i5, which is why we highly recommend the SLI option instead. 

 

If you want the benchmarks specifically for the Devil's Canyon chips, check this link http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k/4

 

[1] http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=11

ok so if i go with a i5 4690k, is it easy to OC? I see alot of the peole over 4ghz? Why is the mobo that overkill?

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ok so if i go with a i5 4690k, is it easy to OC? I see alot of the peole over 4ghz? Why is the mobo that overkill?

Ocing a modern, Intel processor takes very little effort, it involves going into the BIOS and changing multipliers and voltage, just like going into a pause menu and changing graphics settings in a game for example - there are plenty of guides on this forum and indeed online that can walk you through ocing a popular chip like a 4690K. You won't break anything since Windows, the chip and the board have plenty of safeguards just in case you tweak something too high or too low.

 

As for the motherboard, it's not overkill, but overpriced. I'm having a look now and the only reason so far I can see why it's a lot more expensive compared to the other boards I mentioned is due to the brand name, ROG sticker and the integrated audio. I see your avatar is an ASUS ROG badge, if you really want a ROG board the ASUS Z97 MAXIMUS VII RANGER instead of the HERO is better value, otherwise a Gigabyte Z97X- UD3H, Giagabyte Z97X Gaming 3 or the MSI gaming 3 if you like red and black colourways have far better feature sets for a lower price.  

 

If you're worried about audio quality, an Asus Xonar DG or DS dedicated sound card is far better than any integrated solution at this price point, make sure to go for a PCI express sound card since an SLI 970 setup will physically block most of the ports on the board. I personally have an Asus Xonar D1 and the audio quality spanks any Realtek.

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Ocing a modern, Intel processor takes very little effort, it involves going into the BIOS and changing multipliers and voltage, just like going into a pause menu and changing graphics settings in a game for example - there are plenty of guides on this forum and indeed online that can walk you through ocing a popular chip like a 4690K. You won't break anything since Windows, the chip and the board have plenty of safeguards just in case you tweak something too high or too low.

 

As for the motherboard, it's not overkill, but overpriced. I'm having a look now and the only reason so far I can see why it's a lot more expensive compared to the other boards I mentioned is due to the brand name, ROG sticker and the integrated audio. I see your avatar is an ASUS ROG badge, if you really want a ROG board the ASUS Z97 MAXIMUS VII RANGER instead of the HERO is better value, otherwise a Gigabyte Z97X- UD3H, Giagabyte Z97X Gaming 3 or the MSI gaming 3 if you like red and black colourways have far better feature sets for a lower price.  

 

If you're worried about audio quality, an Asus Xonar DG or DS dedicated sound card is far better than any integrated solution at this price point, make sure to go for a PCI express sound card since an SLI 970 setup will physically block most of the ports on the board. I personally have an Asus Xonar D1 and the audio quality spanks any Realtek.

They only have the Asus Crossblade Ranger but its AMD. There's better features in a MSI Gaming 3 or 5 than the Asus Maximus Hero Vii? For the sound I'm not really worried for now I live in a appartment so I can't have loud stuff so i play on a pair of good usb headset. I will get the i5 4690k now. I know I have the ROG picture but its just because I didn't know what to put.

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What's the system being used for? Are you planning to sli?

Why a 144hz TN panel instead of a better looking TN? Is the optical drive really necessary?

I think now I will go for a IPS monitor because i only play for fun at BF4 and other games like that. Do you have any suggestion for a good IPS monitor under 450$ canadian?

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I think now I will go for a IPS monitor because i only play for fun at BF4 and other games like that. Do you have any suggestion for a good IPS monitor under 450$ canadian?

How's this look instead? http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/nprKgs

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The monitor is not available at the store I will get all my parts(canadacomputers.com). So what everyone is saying is to change my mobo for a cheaper one and go for a i5 4690K, get 2xGTX 970. But why is the i5 4690k at 3.5ghz is equal to the i7 4790k at 4.4ghz?

 

The original build is fine. Personally I would go with an IPS panel monitor. I would also go with an air tower cpu cooler. Something like the Noctua NH-D15. It has excellent cooling characteristics and will lead to a quieter build since the top vents will not have to be opened up. No point in getting the extra fans. Stock should do the job nicely.

 

An i7-4790K does outperform an i5-4690K in gaming due to its 500MHz higher base clock. Generally speaking that only makes a real gaming difference if the gpu is not being maxed out.

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