4930k vs 5820k

[KirbyTech]

I am looking to upgrade my cup in the next month or so. I know I want 6 cores for video editing and rendering (project this summer will be using red scarlet that will be rented). My reason for thinking that it owuld be worth it to go with the 4930k even though it is 1 generation older and is more expensive is because motherboards cost less and I already have 24 gb of ram so would only be putting in 8 gb more.

 

4930k build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/rLfxCJ

 

5820k build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/KhGhxr

[i_build_nanosuits]

you are looking at less than 5% performance difference clock for clock between the two chips...

look here for user submitted performance results:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4930K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5820K/1976vs2579

in your situation i would go with the X79 and 4930K any day...the money you save on RAM alone makes it a much better choice.

Edited March 4, 2015 by i_build_nanosuits

[KirbyTech]

you are looking at a 6% performance difference clock for clock between the two chips...

So it would be worth it go spend the extra $100 then? 

[i_build_nanosuits]

So it would be worth it go spend the extra $100 then?

post edited please re-read...sorry!

[dragoon20005]

So it would be worth it go spend the extra $100 then? 

if you are using the X99

 

you will need to get DDR4 which cost way more

[KirbyTech]

if you are using the X99

 

you will need to get DDR4 which cost way more

I get that, look at the PC part picker links, while DDR4 costs more but the 4930k also costs more. So when you keep that in mind it is why I question it. Remember that I only have to buy 8 gb of ram for the 4930k but 32 for the 5820k. The overall difference is about $100 between the two so the price is close enough to make me question both sides

[i_build_nanosuits]

if you are using the X99

 

you will need to get DDR4 which cost way more

yeah, that's why the 4930K still makes sense since he has a good amount of DDR3 he could re-use...the slighlty better IPC on the 5820K which is less than 5% isnt justifying the extra cost IMHO...but X99 will be relevant longer he might want to drop in a broadwell-E chip on that board at a later date perhaps an 8 core broadwell skew or something...i leave that decision up to him but i would build the 4930K personaly.

[KirbyTech]

you are looking at less than 5% performance difference clock for clock between the two chips...

look here for user submitted performance results:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4930K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5820K/1976vs2579

in your situation i would go with the X79 and 4930K any day...the money you save on RAM alone makes it a much better choice.

I save about 300 on ram by going with the 4930k but spend 200 more on the cpu so the difference is only 100. Is it worth it to go ddr4 so I have it for upgrades in 3 years

[i_build_nanosuits]

I get that, look at the PC part picker links, while DDR4 costs more but the 4930k also costs more. So when you keep that in mind it is why I question it. Remember that I only have to buy 8 gb of ram for the 4930k but 32 for the 5820k. The overall difference is about $100 between the two so the price is close enough to make me question both sides

indeed...then it all comes down to what 100$ means to your finance...is it something you consider ''big'' or if you have some money left over...it's up to you...

...BUT why do you want to pick such an expensive X79 motherboard? wouldnt this board has the features you need? it's MUCH cheaper...

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-p9x79le

Edited March 4, 2015 by i_build_nanosuits

[KirbyTech]

indeed...then it all comes down to what 100$ means to your finance...is it something you consider ''big'' or if you have some money left over...it's up to you...

Well when spending this much it is only about 6% difference. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Well when spending this much it is only about 6% difference.

...BUT why do you want to pick such an expensive X79 motherboard? wouldnt this board has the features you need? it's MUCH cheaper...

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-p9x79le

[Opcode]

The 4930k is better across the board performance wise. It also provides far more PCIe lanes than the 5820k which is nothing more than a glorified 4770k.

[i_build_nanosuits]

The 4930k is better across the board performance wise. It also provides far more PCIe lanes than the 5820k which is nothing more than a glorified 4770k.

hummm...no...the 5820K has 24pcie lanes where as the 4770K has only 16 lanes..and the 5820K is 6 cores 12 threads and 4770K is only 4 cores/8 threads...you are miss-leading...please quit doing that!

[KirbyTech]

The 4930k is better across the board performance wise. It also provides far more PCIe lanes than the 5820k which is nothing more than a glorified 4770k.

I think you may want to read up on both processors as you're very wrong.

[Opcode]

hummm...no...the 5820K has 24pcie lanes where as the 4770K has only 16 lanes..and the 5820K is 6 cores 12 threads and 4770K is only 4 cores/8 threads...you are miss-leading...please quit doing that!

 

I think you may want to read up on both processors as you're very wrong.

I would suggest you both to do your research. The 5820k has only 28 lanes while the 4930k sports 40 lanes.

 

Other than two extra cores and a few more lanes it's nothing short of a glorified 4770k.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I would suggest you both to do your research. The 5820k has only 28 lanes while the 4930k sports 40 lanes. Other than two extra cores and a few more lanes it's nothing short of a glorified 4770k.

50% more CPU cores and 4 extra threads isnt exactly what i would call ''the same''...anyways, just quit

Also pcie lanes count only matter if the user is willing to run 3 or 4 GPU's...and the 5820K can still SLI 3 cards at 8x/8x/8x..not saying it's the better choice here you can read through the thread if you feel like it!

[SteveGrabowski]

I'd buy the 5820k system and sell your 24GB of DDR3.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I'd buy the 5820k system and sell your 24GB of DDR3.

if there is a possibilty to re-sell parts to get money toward some better hardware then yes this could very well be the best solution...

[Opcode]

50% more CPU cores and 4 extra threads isnt exactly what i would call ''the same''...anyways, just quit

Where did I say they were exactly the same? I think someones jumping to conclusions. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Where did I say they were exactly the same? I think someones jumping to conclusions. 

well...you said it was a glorified 4770K...in which case you could also say it's a glorified celeron G1820...which in fact it is...

[Opcode]

well...you said it was a glorified 4770K...in which case you could also say it's a glorified celeron G1820...which in fact it is...

So you're now saying I'm correct? Celeron G1820 is stretching it too far out of the boundaries of classification. There's only very minuscule differences between the 4770k and the 5820k. Core count, PCIe lanes, memory support, AVX2 and L3 cache the rest don't matter. What counts is the performance of the chip in which the 4930k benches much better than the 5820k. If he's got a stack of good DDR3 going with the 4930k is a no brainer. He can upgrade to Cannonlake or Zen later when newer tech becomes more affordable. Unless money isn't an issue then forget it and go straight for the 5960X.

[JustCallMeVlad]

I am looking to upgrade my cup in the next month or so. I know I want 6 cores for video editing and rendering (project this summer will be using red scarlet that will be rented). My reason for thinking that it owuld be worth it to go with the 4930k even though it is 1 generation older and is more expensive is because motherboards cost less and I already have 24 gb of ram so would only be putting in 8 gb more.

4930k build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/rLfxCJ

5820k build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/KhGhxr

No no no no no.

X79 is dead and is not worth the investment.

X99 has a broadwell E upgrade path.

Please for the love of God do not buy X79

This is what you want

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/TwNXVn

[KirbyTech]

No no no no no.

X79 is dead and is not worth the investment.

X99 has a broadwell E upgrade path.

Please for the love of God do not buy X79

This is what you want

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/TwNXVn

That is not what I want, I want to stick with ASUS motherboard since I have had good experiences with them and bad experiences (between my father and I) with MSI and Gigabyte. 

 

I'd buy the 5820k system and sell your 24GB of DDR3.

Well I don't think I'd sell it instead maybe keep it as a render node as I would not get much for the ram and that would leave me with a i7 3770 and motherboard left over. I could sell all of the parts sure.

[JustCallMeVlad]

That is not what I want, I want to stick with ASUS motherboard since I have had good experiences with them and bad experiences (between my father and I) with MSI and Gigabyte.

Well I don't think I'd sell it instead maybe keep it as a render node as I would not get much for the ram and that would leave me with a i7 3770 and motherboard left over. I could sell all of the parts sure.

Jesus Christ. Another Asus fanboy. I wouldn't have linked a different board if I thought it was garbage.

Evga motherboards are crap these days

[KirbyTech]

Jesus Christ. Another Asus fanboy. I wouldn't have linked a different board if I thought it was garbage.

Evga motherboards are crap these days

Difference between fanboy and liking a product. I am open to EVGA and you seem to not like them. I have not heard of many issues with them yet I have from other brands such as MSI and Gigabyte.