i7 vs i5

[nasols]

What is really the difference between i5 and i7?? And how long does it take untill games take use off all the cores the i7 offers...? And, if i should go for the i7 is the 5 gen something to go for, considering that i have to upgrade, motherboard and RAM... 

[WinNut]

The i7 is basically an i5 with hyperthreading and slightly higher clocked cores.

[Octavialicious]

i5 and i7 perform the exact same in games. If you video edit, stream, or do content creation, get the i7. If you only game, get the i5.

[Pugs501]

If you want a i7 and don't plan on OC or using IG you should get a Xeon E3-1231 V3, it is a i7 for the price of an i5

[zonahbear]

In gaming there really isn't any significant benefit when using an i7. The difference between i5 and i7 is that an i7 has hyperthreading and vPro.

[nasols]

But how long untill the cores in the i7 is needed to have high performance in games?? And if i7 is the best, is the 5gen worth it?

[TheKDub]

What is really the difference between i5 and i7?? And how long does it take untill games take use off all the cores the i7 offers...? And, if i should go for the i7 is the 5 gen something to go for, considering that i have to upgrade, motherboard and RAM... 

 

An i7 is an i5 with hyperthreading.

 

Hyperthreading is virtual cores that help the CPU process information more efficiently, making it useful in heavy multitasking, video editing/rendering, photo editing/rendering, etc..

I5s are still able to be used for heavy multitasking, video/photo editing/rendering, etc.. they will just do it a little slower.

 

There are very very few games that take advantage of hyperthreading.

[KE2012]

The real difference is hyper-threading, but for gamers that isn't something that is really utilised yet. Also an i7 doesn't instantly mean more cores or performance over an i5.

[nasols]

Thanks guys!

[nasols]

But what is OC and IG 

[Kherm]

nasols, on 10 Feb 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:

But what is OC and IG 

OC is OverClock, only available on CPUs that end in "K" [ex- i5-2500k]

IG is integrated graphics on-chip. If a chip doesn't have IG, you need a graphics card

[nasols]

Im planning to buy a i5-4690k... Is it any good, or should i rather buy any i7??

[Real_PhillBert]

Im planning to buy a i5-4690k... Is it any good, or should i rather buy any i7??

For gaming the 4690K is a fantastic choice.

[ItsFTP]

Simple answer:

Gaming - i5

Rendering - i7

[Random32]

Im planning to buy a i5-4690k... Is it any good, or should i rather buy any i7??

The 4690K with a proper cooler to accommodate the OC Potential will do absolutely great in games. Coupled with something like a GTX 770/970 or a R9 270X/280X could make for a very nice upper-mid-tier build. You could probably pull off 1080P 60FPS on games like BF4. 

[othertomperson]

i5 and i7 perform the exact same in games. If you video edit, stream, or do content creation, get the i7. If you only game, get the i5.

 

Not true. If the game supports more than four threads (such as Thief) you will see a performance difference between the i5 and i7. At this stage it's a question of whether the increase is big enough to be worth the additional cost, and if you play many games that support the modern CPU market (most don't)

[Octavialicious]

Not true. If the game supports more than four threads (such as Thief) you will see a performance difference between the i5 and i7. At this stage it's a question of whether the increase is big enough to be worth the additional cost, and it probably isn't.

one game out of thousands, I believe my point remains.

[othertomperson]

one game out of thousands, I believe my point remains.

 

No, there's a few games that support more than four threads. It's not true to say that there is absolutely nothing to be gained from an i7 even if the difference is small.

[Ptopman]

The only game that I have see use all of my i7-4790k @ 4.7GHz (4c/8t) and use all of my GTX 670 at the same time is CS:GO. Other than that I rarly see my games use more than 2-3 cores. If your just gaming get the i5, If you plan on being a content creator, get an i7.

Like what has been said many times already, all an i7 is a i5 with Hyper-threading. 

I don't see any games in the near future using 4 or more cores.

[nasols]

thanks for all the help folks
 

[-iSynthesis]

In gaming there really isn't any significant benefit when using an i7. The difference between i5 and i7 is that an i7 has hyperthreading and vPro.

I dont think every i7 has vPro, there are vPro i5s aswell.

[othertomperson]

The only game that I have see use all of my i7-4790k @ 4.7GHz (4c/8t) and use all of my GTX 670 at the same time is CS:GO. Other than that I rarly see my games use more than 2-3 cores. If your just gaming get the i5, If you plan on being a content creator, get an i7.

Like what has been said many times already, all an i7 is a i5 with Hyper-threading. 

I don't see any games in the near future using 4 or more cores.

 

You don't see any? I've given you one. Battlefield 4 does. The original Dragon Age did. As far as I'm aware these support up to six. You're also making this assertion on the verge of Directx 12 making it far easier to support more efficient use of multithreading.

[Thony]

And how long does it take untill games take use off all the cores the i7 offers...?

And, if i should go for the i7 is the 5 gen something to go for, considering that i have to upgrade, motherboard and RAM...

I dont see developers optimizing games to use virtual cores any time soon. So gamewise its pointless.

If u like to miltutask and/or have 2 or more screens then i7 is great (BF4 full screen + twitch/YouTube, MSI osd is what I do and have lot of room to spare. Could stream if I had proper internet).

I built my CPU last year and plan on getting 2-3 more years out of it.

U always want to buy the latest since prices are not very different just few dollars more at beginning.

If u don't plan on over clocking (like me) then u can save some money by going for H series mobo with locked CPU. And in this case theres Skylake (6th gen) coming in may/June and that should be worth (performance wise) more than Broadwell (5th gen).

If u know u will overclock then get the 5th gen (broad well) umlocked i5 or i7.

[Ptopman]

You don't see any? I've given you one. Battlefield 4 does. The original Dragon Age did. As far as I'm aware these support up to six. You're also making this assertion on the verge of Directx 12 making it far easier to support more efficient use of multithreading.

Never played BF4 or Dragon Age. I know that Dx12 will make it easier to support multithreading and I fully can not wait for it, but its still going to take a little bit of time to roll Dx12 out, I have not done a lot of research on Dx12 but I have read it here and there that its still a year away, They are saying late Q4 2015 to Q1 of 2016.

 

The thing that I'm not saying that there are no games that use multiple cores over 3, but there are a handful of games.

[othertomperson]

The thing that I'm not saying that there are no games that use multiple cores over 3, but there are a handful of games.

 

No, you literally did say that. That is a thing that I quoted you saying and I was responding to.