Possible advice for a first time builder?

[Bigapps1206]

Hello, i'm new to the forum and to pc building. I am planning on building my first pc this year. After a fair amount of reaserch i believe ive come up with a pc thats good for me. (for gaming! ) I was wondering if i was missing any vital components for my build, i do know that i havent picked fans or a cpu cooler as well as accesories. Any advice is truly welcome. 

 

PC part picker URL : http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/harryapps1206/saved/9CqV3C

 

Thankyou, (might be worth mentioning im in the UK) 

[JoaoPRSousa]

Do you really need the BluRay drive?

[qwertywarrior]

everything looks good but i would really recommended a better CPU

[zappian]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£145.03 @ CCL Computers) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£35.03 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (£52.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£74.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.45 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (£224.99 @ Novatech) 

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  (£89.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Power Supply: be quiet! POWER ZONE 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£77.99 @ Aria PC) 

Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer  (£39.59 @ Aria PC) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£72.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Intel 7260HMWDTX1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£40.62 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Total: £888.66

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-09 22:16 GMT+0000

 

@Bigapps1206 @JoaoPRSousa

 

An i5 is better , no contest.

[JoaoPRSousa]

Anyways:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (£51.22 @ Dabs)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.97 @ Amazon UK)

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£79.00 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.45 @ Aria PC)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£239.98 @ Amazon UK)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (£89.99 @ Scan.co.uk)

Power Supply: XFX XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£76.78 @ Amazon UK)

Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£39.59 @ Aria PC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.99 @ Amazon UK)

Wireless Network Adapter: Intel 7260HMWDTX1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£40.62 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £867.57

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-09 22:22 GMT+0000

[Memories4K]

Personally would not recommend the V300 series SSDs from Kingston.

Nor would i recommend a Blu-Ray player, but you might be in the minority that could make good use of it.

[Carnoustie14]

That I a REALY underpowered cpu, may even go as fr as to bottleneck your gpu.

A gtx 970 would be a massive upgrade to that machine worth considering

I would drop the BD player and drop to a 120gb ssd to upgrade to a 970 and an amd quad core - 6 core

Edit - a lower wattage psu would save u some cash

[Lotus]

1) Motherboards don't have performance features. Just a featureset. You're spending a lot of money on that motherboard for a featureset that's going unused.

2) The G3258 has poor multi-threaded performance. These days it's becoming more and more important. You can get away with the G3258 for the most part, but in your budget you can just strait up get a better CPU.

3) The V300 is a notoriously shitty SSD. Kingston swapped the internals (a downgrade) without telling anyone and I really don't like that. Avoid it.

4) You can get a better PSU for the price. The Superflower Golden Green are great units available in your area.

5_ Physical media is dead. Everything is streamed these days, and even OS installs can be done with a USB flash drive. You can skip it. This also enables you to get the S340, which is a cheap yet excellent case. On both the Phanteks Enthoo Pro and the S340, stock fans are perfectly sufficient. You will want to move the top exhaust fan to be a front intake on the S340 though.

6) If your router isn't AC, or even if it is and you don't have crazy fast (like 100MB/s+), then a cheaper dual band N series wifi card is perfectly sufficient.

 

Given that, this is what I'd do for the price:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£183.08 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£24.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (£53.05 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£78.04 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.45 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (£199.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£92.96 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£72.99 @ Amazon UK)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (£9.79 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £874.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-09 22:27 GMT+0000

 

The PSU is overkill, but this way you can just slap in a second R9 290 for more GPU horsepower if you ever decide you need to.

[Memories4K]

That I a REALY underpowered cpu, may even go as fr as to bottleneck your gpu.

A gtx 970 would be a massive upgrade to that machine worth considering

I would drop the BD player and drop to a 120gb ssd to upgrade to a 970 and an amd quad core - 6 core

The G3258 will bottleneck the 290.

 

But an AMD CPU will also bottleneck the 970 and the 290, hahaha

[Carnoustie14]

The G3258 will bottleneck the 290.

 

But an AMD CPU will also bottleneck the 970 and the 290, hahaha

I don't know, an amd 6 core cpu shouldn't bottleneck a 970, but I would definitely change that cpu

[Zubkover]

Just gonna say this now:

In case you want to modify anything (like case painting or GPU cooler) or removing HDD cage, 5and1/4" bays and etc. Just do it BEFORE you start putting things in.
Thought through this now, having in mind the airflow, and how many data storage you'll need.
In addition I'd also recommend getting 2 fans (I'm not a Noctua fan, or anything) Pressure optimized fans.
Like Corsair's fans, they have even paintable rings, so moar customization options = better.

And as ppl above: pick something from i5 or i7 family. No dual core is now good for a system of any kind. ^ ^

[Lotus]

I don't know, an amd 6 core cpu shouldn't bottleneck a 970, but I would definitely change that cpu

Both the G3258 and the FX-6300 will bottleneck a GTX 970 and even an R9 290, although in completely different ways.

 

The G3258 will struggle on heavily multithreaded games because it has poor multithreaded performance while the FX-6300 will struggle on games that require good single-threaded performance. You really want at least an i5 for gaming as you finally have both good multithreaded and singlethreaded performance from the i5. Currently no AMD CPU exists that has sufficient single-threaded performance for all games.

[Carnoustie14]

Both the G3258 and the FX-6300 will bottleneck a GTX 970 and even an R9 290, although in completely different ways.

 

The G3258 will struggle on heavily multithreaded games because it has poor multithreaded performance while the FX-6300 will struggle on games that require good single-threaded performance. You really want at least an i5 for gaming as you finally have both good multithreaded and singlethreaded performance from the i5. Currently no AMD CPU exists that has sufficient single-threaded performance for all games.

Hear hear,

120 gb ssd

No optical drive

Low end I5

Gtx 970

Lower wattage psu - maxwel is very power efficient

If u have to wait a month then wait, these upgrades are VERY worth it