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I was just wondering about delidding my 4790K, but being a clumsy noob I sometimes am, I would most likely fuck-up the CPU.

But one shop I buy PC components from offers this service for 25€. They are a serious company I trust and they offer the full service that includes - delidding, cleaning the black stuff off the IHS and CPU and even picking a TIM of your choice, that includes even the liquid metal stuff, that is probably the best solution.

And the best part is - if they fuck-up the CPU, they provide a brand new replacement :)

 

So my question - should I go through with it? Will it provide better temps? I plan to OC my 4790K and use the X61 to its full potential :D

 

Thanks for your input

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If you trust them why not?

Not sure how much it will make a difference though. 

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The 4790K has extremely high end paste on it, it was one of the main reasons for the 4790K to exist.

Deliding will HARDLY improve temps (1 - 2 degress, if that) and is not worth the risk.

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Well since if they mess up you will get a new cpu so i don't see why not. I don't know how much your cpu temp are going to drop though, it might be alot or it could be just a couple degree lower

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I personally wouldn't. The IHS is really good on the 4790k and doesn't have any of the same thermal paste problems like what Haswell had. You would only be getting 1-3 degrees lower compared to stock, whereas my brother got 13 degrees lower on his old 4770k. Another thing to note is that you can crack the CPU die if you aren't careful. The reason why my bro isn't using the 4770k today is because his chip cracked when tightening down a Swiftech waterblock, so they become fragile without the IHS.

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Honestly, I would just pay to have it done. If they fuck up, they're replacing it.

However if the 25 bucks is too much,

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide

 

Although, theres not much point in doing it, as people on the thread have mentioned previously,

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I personally wouldn't. The IHS is really good on the 4790k and doesn't have any of the same thermal paste problems like what Haswell had. You would only be getting 1-3 degrees lower compared to stock, whereas my brother got 13 degrees lower on his old 4770k. Another thing to note is that you can crack the CPU die if you aren't careful. The reason why my bro isn't using the 4770k today is because his chip cracked when tightening down a Swiftech waterblock, so they become fragile without the IHS.

yeh but hes not doing it himself, hes having his trusted shop do it, and if they replace it if they brick it, then theres nothin to lose :P other than 25 euros

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The 4790K has extremely high end paste on it, it was one of the main reasons for the 4790K to exist.

Deliding will HARDLY improve temps (1 - 2 degress, if that) and is not worth the risk.

The paste isn't what makes the temp difference. The temp drop is from the decreased distance between the ihs and die. There's little to no difference between the 4770k and 4790k's paste. The main changes of Devils Canyon are added capacitors and some binning.

Delidding and fixing the gap will make as big of a difference on a 4790k as it would for a 4770k. With CLP or CLU, load temps should decrease by ~15-20c or more.

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yeh but hes not doing it himself, hes having his trusted shop do it, and if they replace it if they brick it, then theres nothin to lose :P other than 25 euros

It didn't break while deliding, it broke putting the waterblock on lol. I was in the room when he was installing it and we heard a tiny "crack" as he was finishing up tightening it. I felt the tension, and it wasn't even on that tight, but Intel didn't design it to run that way so I can understand why its so fragile. With Haswell I would recommend it since the end result is worth it, but for everything else the gains are not worth the time, money, or risk.

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It didn't break while deliding, it broke putting the waterblock on lol. I was in the room when he was installing it and we heard a tiny "crack" as he was finishing up tightening it. I felt the tension, and it wasn't even on that tight, but Intel didn't design it to run that way so I can understand why its so fragile. With Haswell I would recommend it since the end result is worth it, but for everything else the gains are not worth the time, money, or risk.

but if dey replacin it if it finna break

idk, think what you want at this point :S

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Been on these forums a long time and never heard of this...wtf is delid? LOL.

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Been on these forums a long time and never heard of this...wtf is delid? LOL.

Delidding is the process of removing the ihs from the die and getting rid of the glue that causes a (probably) unnecessary gap that would otherwise lead to higher temps.

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Delidding is the process of removing the ihs from the die and getting rid of the glue that causes a (probably) unnecessary gap that would otherwise lead to higher temps.

 

 

When you remove the IHS(heat spreader) on the CPU. It exposes the CPU die so that you get direct contact with the heatsink or waterblock.

Interesting...but honestly this seems like something not a lot of people do or I think I would have heard of it before...even so it just sounds a little too extreme, and it seems like there is a risk to it as well from what I read here. & for what a few c difference? Does not seem worth..

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but if dey replacin it if it finna break

idk, think what you want at this point :S

If the store OP is going to has the same rules as my local store, the only thing covered is if an employee breaks the CPU, not 'you'. If the CPU gets rekt when removing the IHS, they replace it. If you crack the die once you get home, its GG and QQ.

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If the store OP is going to has the same rules as my local store, the only thing covered is if an employee breaks the CPU, not 'you'. If the CPU gets rekt when removing the IHS, they replace it. If you crack the die once you get home, its GG and QQ.

lol qq :c

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Interesting...but honestly this seems like something not a lot of people do or I think I would have heard of it before...even so it just sounds a little too extreme, and it seems like there is a risk to it as well from what I read here. & for what a few c difference? Does not seem worth..

20c is not a small difference.

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20c is not a small difference.

20c? Damn lol that's pretty ridiculous. Still surprised I haven't seen it talked about much on the forums until now tho.

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