Streaming processors.

[Demonhax]

Hello. 

Im a bit interested in computers, but mostly processors.

So my question is if someone could explain to me what im looking for when it comes to streaming in a processor, and if someone might give some examples of processors it would be great. Both Intel and Amd.

 

 

[Pugs501]

What is your budget?

What is your location?

What is the rest of your build?

[79wjd]

Intel has much strong single core performance making it the better choice for gaming, but the extra cores of an AMD FX cpu that go unused can be beneficial for streaming.

 

For gaming, an i5 will beat an FX9590 in almost every game -- but in streaming an FX8 sometimes can the edge over an i5. (the i7 still is the best for both). So, if you can't afford an i7, then pick your priorities -- gaming vs. streaming. 

 

/I'm also assuming you mean live-streaming a game to twitch. 

[Thony]

Not sure if u wamt to know a meaning of "streaming processor" or u want suggestions for a CPU that can handle online streaming on twitch for example.

[minibois]

Hello. 

Im a bit interested in computers, but mostly processors.

So my question is if someone could explain to me what im looking for when it comes to streaming in a processor, and if someone might give some examples of processors it would be great. Both Intel and Amd.

As for Intel: i7 processors are better for that (because hyperthreading, creating more cores to use and with games that use cores and programs like OBS also using cores, you need that.)

Good i7's: 4770K, 4790K

As for the AMD side: I am not that well oriented there.. The FX chips are their current CPU's and I think the FX 8300 is the best.

It has more (but weaker) 'physical' cores but no hyperthreading.

[Demonhax]

What is your budget?

What is your location?

What is the rest of your build?

Well. I dont have a budget. Im not going to buy one. Just interested in whats good and why its good. 

[79wjd]

Well. I dont have a budget. Im not going to buy one. Just interested in whats good and why its good. 

Well, streaming takes cores away from games. 

 

Now, most games still run on <4 cores and have one main core and then the rest are all secondary cores. So in a game like TF2, you can only use two cores (with one core doing the vast majority of the work). So, a single core processor wouldn't be the best choice for streaming as then that same core would have to handle the game as well as streaming the game. So, ideally you want a cpu, which has more cores than the games you play can use. Which would make you say that the FX8 is always better than an i5 in streaming, but it's highly dependent on the game, and what performance you prioritize more -- gaming performance or gaming while streaming performance. 

 

For streaming+gaming rig, I would do something like this depending on what the budget is: 

i7-4790k > Xeon E3 1231v3 > FX8320/i5-4690k > i5 > FX6300/i3 > 860k/FX4300 > Pentium.

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

Xeon E3 with out and iGPU Eg the E3 1230/1231 V3 is a solid choice if you can find those for around 250$. Performs like an i7 at the same clock, only down side is that you'll need an GPU to go with it but who uses iGPU in gaming rigs anyway 

[Thony]

Xeon E3 with out and iGPU Eg the E3 1230/1231 V3 is a solid choice if you can find those for around 250$. Performs like an i7 at the same clock, only down side is that you'll need an GPU to go with it but who uses iGPU in gaming rigs anyway

I use iGPU to drive my second monitor because my gpu has problems running two.

[Thony]

Well. I dont have a budget. Im not going to buy one. Just interested in whats good and why its good.

Streaming online likes multiple cores. It takes use of all of them.

U need:

i5 or higher from Intel

FX8320 or higher from AMD (it is not true 8core, its more like intels i7 but lot weaker)

[79wjd]

Streaming online likes multiple cores. It takes use of all of them.

U need:

i5 or higher from Intel

FX8350 or higher from AMD (it is not true 8core, its more like intels i7 but lot weaker)

Thats also not quite true, and unfortunately, depending on the game, that generalization doesn't work. Try streaming some MMO's on an FX8 and you're gonna have a bad time. 

[Sauron]

If you want to do some SERIOUS streaming you probably want something like a xeon 1231 or higher, from intel; basically at least a hyperthreaded quad core from them. FX 83xx cpus are probably ok for streaming, but at the price of lower ingame performance regardless of streaming.

[kpreg]

The FX 8350 or 8320 shines in the budget streaming category. If you can afford it, step up to an unlocked i5.

[Thony]

Thats also not quite true, and unfortunately, depending on the game, that generalization doesn't work. Try streaming some MMO's on an FX8 and you're gonna have a bad time.

I dont own one but i know Logan's coleague/girlfriend (is she?) Pistol was using FX8350 to stream games including skyrim for a while.

[79wjd]

I dont own one but i know Logan's coleague/girlfriend (is she?) Pistol was using FX8350 to stream games including skyrim for a while.

He's already been brought into question about that since he was claiming the FX8 was outperforming an i7, and his results/benchmarks weren't in-line with everyone else's, so take his setup/s with a grain of salt. 

[Thony]

He's already been brought into question about that since he was claiming the FX8 was outperforming an i7, and his results/benchmarks weren't in-line with everyone else's, so take his setup/s with a grain of salt.

She actually streamed on twitch, thats a real life scenario and real test amd thw cpu made it.

Have u had one of these and it failed to stream your games ?

[79wjd]

She actually streamed on twitch, thats a real life scenario and real test amd thw cpu made it.

Have u had one of these and it failed to stream your games ?

I'm not saying the FX8 is bad for streaming, in some instances it's better than an i5 -- but it really depends on the game. You have to keep in mind that the FX chip is awful for MOBA-type games, so the extra cores help with streaming, but the cpu already struggle with the game when not streaming. So poor gaming performance + very good streaming performance on an FX chip vs. great gaming performance + okay streaming performance (the latter ends up being better for everyone) -- so it really depends on the games being played. 

 

 All I'm saying is that Tek Syndicate has already had their FX benchmarks questioned as they're quite a bit different then everyone else's. 

[zappian]

He's already been brought into question about that since he was claiming the FX8 was outperforming an i7, and his results/benchmarks weren't in-line with everyone else's, so take his setup/s with a grain of salt. 

 

As much as i love tek syindicate their results in the FX benchmarks weren't in line with any of the big tech publications and go with what has been confirmed thought other sites.

 

Everybody ignores them these days.

[Nup]

Would a last gen i7 be worth considering for Mr. OP? 

[79wjd]

Would a last gen i7 be worth considering for Mr. OP?

Performance wise, yes ivy is only a few percent slower than haswell. But it's also not much cheaper (if at all).

[zappian]

Performance wise, yes ivy is only a few percent slower than haswell. But it's also not much cheaper (if at all).

 

Even first gen i7 ( 930) beat the FX cpus to a pulp.

 

Many people still use them for gaming.

[Nup]

Performance wise, yes ivy is only a few percent slower than haswell. But it's also not much cheaper (if at all).

Thanks! Shame that its not much cheaper.

[79wjd]

Thanks! Shame that its not much cheaper.

Well, it would be silly for it to be much cheaper since the performance is virtually the same. 

[Darkman]

As for Intel: i7 processors are better for that (because hyperthreading, creating more cores to use and with games that use cores and programs like OBS also using cores, you need that.)

Good i7's: 4770K, 4790K

As for the AMD side: I am not that well oriented there.. The FX chips are their current CPU's and I think the FX 8300 is the best.

It has more (but weaker) 'physical' cores but no hyperthreading.

^ This. If you can't afford a i7, look at the Xeon E3-1230/1231 v3 and E3-1240/1241 v3.

[Nup]

Well, it would be silly for it to be much cheaper since the performance is virtually the same. 

well yes, intel isn't stupid i guess.

 

The deal seeking consumer will dream on though...