Selecting cpu and mobo to pair with high end GPU (r9 290)

[applesuxD]

[PCPartPicker part list]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wCvMD3) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wCvMD3/by_merchant/)(

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k) | $199.99 @ Micro Center

**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) | $89.99 @ Amazon

**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3hbk) | $128.99 @ NCIX US

**Memory** | [G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9s8gsr) | $60.98 @ Newegg

**Memory** | [G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9s8gsr) | $60.98 @ Newegg

**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $52.24 @ Directron

**Video Card** | [Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr929xoc4gd) | $329.99 @ Newegg

**Case** | [NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-cah440ww1) | $94.99 @ Micro Center

**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220p21200x1) | $229.99 @ NCIX US

| | **Total**

| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $1248.14

| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-27 12:33 EST-0500 |

Now how isit???

Ull need platinum if u were to oc the gpus

Ram for rendering vids and streaming helps

I suggest upgrading your ram kit even more if your editing

[pitprok]

[PCPartPicker part list]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wCvMD3) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wCvMD3/by_merchant/)(

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k) | $199.99 @ Micro Center

**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) | $89.99 @ Amazon

**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3hbk) | $128.99 @ NCIX US

**Memory** | [G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9s8gsr) | $60.98 @ Newegg

**Memory** | [G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9s8gsr) | $60.98 @ Newegg

**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $52.24 @ Directron

**Video Card** | [Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr929xoc4gd) | $329.99 @ Newegg

**Case** | [NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-cah440ww1) | $94.99 @ Micro Center

**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220p21200x1) | $229.99 @ NCIX US

| | **Total**

| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $1248.14

| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-27 12:33 EST-0500 |

Now how isit???

Ull need platinum if u were to oc the gpus

Ram for rendering vids and streaming helps

I suggest upgrading your ram kit even more if your editing

 

Its a good build, thank you.

Unfortunately newegg doesnt ship internationally and here the build is quite more expensive

For example the 4690k is w80$ and the xfx  r9 290x costs 500$  

[i_build_nanosuits]

Its a good build, thank you.

Unfortunately newegg doesnt ship internationally and here the build is quite more expensive

For example the 4690k is w80$ and the xfx  r9 290x costs 500$  

look for these parts man:

core i5-4690K

cooler master hyper 212 CPU cooler

MSI Z97 g45 gaming or MSI Z97 gaming 5 motherboard or ASUS Z97-A (or Z97-E or Z97-AR) or MSI Z97 G55 SLI or MSI Z97S SLI

R9 290X of your choice that is not a reference design cooler.

good quality 850WPSU (check reviews...i recommend 800W minimum for dual R9 290X GPU's)

can you possibly fit these parts in your price range?

[SkilledRebuilds]

look for these parts man:

core i5-4690K

cooler master hyper 212 CPU cooler

MSI Z97 g45 gaming or MSI Z97 gaming 5 motherboard or ASUS Z97-A (or Z97-E or Z97-AR) or MSI Z97 G55 SLI or MSI Z97S SLI

R9 290X of your choice that is not a reference design cooler.

good quality 750W PSU (check reviews)

can you possibly fit these parts in your price range?

The 290 (non-X) could help him go further with his other choices... Man thats close to my sig machine... cept my shithouse 16x/4x Mobo

Still the powerhouse.

[i_build_nanosuits]

The 290 (non-X) could help him go further with his other choices... Man thats close to my sig machine... cept my shithouse 16x/4x Mobo

Still the powerhouse.

yeah thats what i told him earlier he was on the edge between i5-4590 and R9 290X vs. i5-4690K and R9 290 and of course i told him it's better to go with the better CPU and R9 290 as those GPU's performs really close to one another and will basicaly be phasing out at about the same times in games anyways...were as the unlocked CPU can last him longer if he can get a good overclock on it.

[SkilledRebuilds]

yeah thats what i told him earlier he was on the edge between i5-4590 and R9 290X vs. i5-4690K and R9 290 and of course i told him it's better to go with the better CPU and R9 290 as those GPU's performs really close to one another and will basicaly be phasing out at about the same times in games anyways...were as the unlocked CPU can last him longer if he can get a good overclock on it.

Yep Yep, pretty sound advice, most 290's will do 1050/1100Mhz before adding voltage, the 290x is so close at that point I'd rather have an unlocked CPU to go with it too.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Yep Yep, pretty sound advice, most 290's will do 1050/1100Mhz before adding voltage, the 290x is so close at that point I'd rather have an unlocked CPU to go with it too.

yes good CPU's like that will be relevant to gaming much longer than those high end graphics card will...GPU typicaly won't age very well and they require to be upgraded quite often where as a good strong CPU can be relevant for 3 to 5 years in regards to gaming.

[pitprok]

Ok, i've made a compilation of all the suggested cpus with the cheapest mobos that can support crossfire (ill deal with the mobo subject after i've settled on a cpu)

I've already decided on ram (16GB 1866 mhz 10-11-10) and i'm going with an EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 (80+ Gold) psu (thats the suggested Wattage for r9 290x crossfire)

 

The question is, which of these can handle crossfire r9 290 (or r9 290x) without bottlenecking them ?

Since i'm looking to be gpu limited and not cpu limited i don't really care if its AMD or Intel (i'm buying hydrocooler either way cause im going to OC if the cpu can OC)
Also i dont care about consumption, i think the 1000w psu can handle fx chips and if not i'll upgrade to 1100 or 1200.

So I'm looking for someone to help me pick out the processors who can run the CF 290( or 290x) without reaching its limit.

Asrock 970 Extreme4 (85e) +FX-8320E (170e)=255 euros
Asrock 970 Extreme4 (85e) +FX-8350 (180e)= 265 euros
Asrock 970 Extreme4 (85e) +FX-8370 (210e)= 295 euros
MSI Z87-G55 (95e) +i5 4570 (186e)= 291 euros
Gigabyte-Z97X-SLI (120e)+ i5 4590(200e)= 320euros
MSI Z87-G55 (95e) +i5 4670k (230e)=335 euros
Gigabyte-Z97X-SLI (120e)+ I5-4690K(250e)= 370euros
Gigabyte-Z97X-SLI (120e) +XEON E3-1231 V3 (280e)= 400euros

edit: After realizing what my target group is, its easy to compare results vs cost and pick a cost effective cpu, but until i know which ones can handle the task, i can't do it.
Don't be afraid to comment even if it's to say that none of them can do what i want
edit 2:Btw as far as i've checked all mobo's support SLI so i guess it's CF would be 8x/8x and not 4x

[pitprok]

look for these parts man:

core i5-4690K

cooler master hyper 212 CPU cooler

MSI Z97 g45 gaming or MSI Z97 gaming 5 motherboard or ASUS Z97-A (or Z97-E or Z97-AR) or MSI Z97 G55 SLI or MSI Z97S SLI

R9 290X of your choice that is not a reference design cooler.

good quality 850WPSU (check reviews...i recommend 800W minimum for dual R9 290X GPU's)

can you possibly fit these parts in your price range?

Didnt see your post cause it took me so long to write mine

That is a good build, I picked a Gigabyte-Z97X-SLI (i think it matches)

I checked the sticky about psu and it says that for CF 290 it need at least 900-1000w

Found Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB OC at a good price (340e) or else im think about either FX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Edition (295e) or FX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Black OC Edition (305e) (but im worried that its too big for the mobo i picked so i have to check it )

edit:I think i can fit these in my price range but i'm still looking into the alternatives for a possibly more cost-effective build

[KC_Toronto]

Have you watched this video from LinusTechTips before narrowing your choices?

This video might be about your exact gaming scenario of Gaming + Recording + Streaming + Rendering Videoclips simultaneously.

CPU Cores for Gaming, Streaming, & Rendering Simultaneously - Is More Actually Better? - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GgDZKGA89I

8 minute video.

Linus concluded that Gaming + Recording Video is extremely intensive, and caused dropped frames in the video recording when the CPU only has 4 threads. The solution is to use a CPU that has 6 or more threads to record perfect videos while gaming without causing dropped frames in the finished recording.

But this only matters if you want your gaming videos to be perfect.

[pitprok]

Have you watched this video from LinusTechTips before narrowing your choices?

This video might be about your exact gaming scenario of Gaming + Recording + Streaming + Rendering Videoclips simultaneously.

CPU Cores for Gaming, Streaming, & Rendering Simultaneously - Is More Actually Better? - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GgDZKGA89I

8 minute video.

Linus concluded that Gaming + Recording Video is extremely intensive, and caused dropped frames in the video recording when the CPU only has 4 threads. The solution is to use a CPU that has 6 or more threads to record perfect videos while gaming without causing dropped frames in the finished recording.

But this only matters if you want your gaming videos to be perfect.

 

Yea, he kinda overwhelmed the system by using a worse case scenario where he was gaming, rendering, chatting and streaming at the same time but i get the point.

I'll keep that in mind

[pitprok]

Ok, i've made a compilation of all the suggested cpus with the cheapest mobos that can support crossfire (ill deal with the mobo subject after i've settled on a cpu)

I've already decided on ram (16GB 1866 mhz 10-11-10) and i'm going with an EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 (80+ Gold) psu (thats the suggested Wattage for r9 290x crossfire)

 

The question is, which of these can handle crossfire r9 290 (or r9 290x) without bottlenecking them ?

Since i'm looking to be gpu limited and not cpu limited i don't really care if its AMD or Intel (i'm buying hydrocooler either way cause im going to OC if the cpu can OC)

Also i dont care about consumption, i think the 1000w psu can handle fx chips and if not i'll upgrade to 1100 or 1200.

So I'm looking for someone to help me pick out the processors who can run the CF 290( or 290x) without reaching its limit.

Asrock 970 Extreme4 (85e) +FX-8320E (170e)=255 euros

Asrock 970 Extreme4 (85e) +FX-8350 (180e)= 265 euros

Asrock 970 Extreme4 (85e) +FX-8370 (210e)= 295 euros

MSI Z87-G55 (95e) +i5 4570 (186e)= 291 euros

Gigabyte-Z97X-SLI (120e)+ i5 4590(200e)= 320euros

MSI Z87-G55 (95e) +i5 4670k (230e)=335 euros

Gigabyte-Z97X-SLI (120e)+ I5-4690K(250e)= 370euros

Gigabyte-Z97X-SLI (120e) +XEON E3-1231 V3 (280e)= 400euros

edit: After realizing what my target group is, its easy to compare results vs cost and pick a cost effective cpu, but until i know which ones can handle the task, i can't do it.

Don't be afraid to comment even if it's to say that none of them can do what i want

edit 2:Btw as far as i've checked all mobo's support SLI so i guess it's CF would be 8x/8x and not 4x

 

Anyone who can help with this ?

[applesuxD]

Youll need a 1000w psu least to run 290 xfire

If not the psu will die faster

[applesuxD]

Anyone who can help with this ?

Basically

You will have to do intel anyways

I assume that you buy a cooler as all i5 4670k or 4690k or 4690 runs hot

Since 4690k is just for less heat (10)

And i assume you dont mind

Go for a 4670k

[pitprok]

Basically

You will have to do intel anyways

I assume that you buy a cooler as all i5 4670k or 4690k or 4690 runs hot

Since 4690k is just for less heat (10)

And i assume you dont mind

Go for a 4670k

 

Yes i will buy a cooler and since the 4670k combo is 35$ less i could invest in a better cooler for better OC

So you think the 4670k can handle CF 290x ?

 

Youll need a 1000w psu least to run 290 xfire

If not the psu will die faster

 

Thanks, as i said "i'm going with an EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 (80+ Gold)"

[pitprok]

yes good CPU's like that will be relevant to gaming much longer than those high end graphics card will...GPU typicaly won't age very well and they require to be upgraded quite often where as a good strong CPU can be relevant for 3 to 5 years in regards to gaming.

Are you sure ? I've noticed that my GPU used to last more than my cpu, the only reason i had to change both was that my mobo was out of date

[Litargirio]

Are you sure ? I've noticed that my GPU used to last more than my cpu, the only reason i had to change both was that my mobo was out of date

 

Well, well, the HD 7990 was released in April of 2013 and is still way better than than any single GPU card we have right now. Because it's a dual GPU graphics card, but still, two R9 290s in crossfire should last you for at least 2 years before you have to start turning your game settings down to run at 60 fps (in AAA titles) and at least 3 years before it starts getting obsolete. And the difference between the newer GPUs and the older ones is becoming smaller, and manufacturers are releasing GPUs less frequently now, so it will probably be even longer than that.

[Litargirio]

- snip -

 

If you want to play games at 25 fps, go for the Asrock 970 Extreme4 + FX 8370

 

If you want to play games at 60+ fps and save money, the MSI Z87-G55 + 4590 will be your best bet.

 

The Gigabyte Z97X-SLI + 4690K I'd recommend; it will make no difference performance wise compared to the previous one, but will extend the lifespan of your PC because it will enable you to overclock it.

[applesuxD]

If you want to play games at 25 fps, go for the Asrock 970 Extreme4 + FX 8370

If you want to play games at 60+ fps and save money, the MSI Z87-G55 + 4590 will be your best bet.

The Gigabyte Z97X-SLI + 4690K I'd recommend; it will make no difference performance wise compared to the previous one, but will extend the lifespan of your PC because it will enable you to overclock it.

Z87 and 4670k if im not wrong.. Doesnt need bios update

But haswell needs and bios update is a hassle a big one

[i_build_nanosuits]

Yes i will buy a cooler and since the 4670k combo is 35$ less i could invest in a better cooler for better OC

So you think the 4670k can handle CF 290x ?

 

 

Thanks, as i said "i'm going with an EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 (80+ Gold)"

Yes i've seen your prices and the kit with the i5-4670K and Z87 motherboard is what you should shoot for and yes it can handle the 290X's

 

THIS: --> MSI Z87-G55 (95e) +i5 4670k (230e)=335 euros

 

This is the best gaming kit for the buck in what you've listed.

[pitprok]

Well, well, the HD 7990 was released in April of 2013 and is still way better than than any single GPU card we have right now. Because it's a dual GPU graphics card, but still, two R9 290s in crossfire should last you for at least 2 years before you have to start turning your game settings down to run at 60 fps (in AAA titles) and at least 3 years before it starts getting obsolete. And the difference between the newer GPUs and the older ones is becoming smaller, and manufacturers are releasing GPUs less frequently now, so it will probably be even longer than that.

 

Nice, thats good to know (even if its just a prediction)

 

If you want to play games at 25 fps, go for the Asrock 970 Extreme4 + FX 8370

 

If you want to play games at 60+ fps and save money, the MSI Z87-G55 + 4590 will be your best bet.

 

The Gigabyte Z97X-SLI + 4690K I'd recommend; it will make no difference performance wise compared to the previous one, but will extend the lifespan of your PC because it will enable you to overclock it.

 

Yea, thats what i thought, thats why im getting a big psu, to leave room for OC,thanks

 

Z87 and 4670k if im not wrong.. Doesnt need bios update

But haswell needs and bios update is a hassle a big one

 

I think 4690k doesnt need bios as well if paired with the correct mobo but still the 4670k has better quality/price

 

Yes i've seen your prices and the kit with the i5-4670K and Z87 motherboard is what you should shoot for and yes it can handle the 290X's

 

THIS: --> MSI Z87-G55 (95e) +i5 4670k (230e)=335 euros

 

This is the best gaming kit for the buck in what you've listed.

 

Thanks, thats what i suspected but i wanted to make sure

[holy-sock]

If you're gonna record i suggest the xeon e3 1230 v3 and since that processor can't be overclocked, go for a cheaper motherboard that supports xeons.

[pitprok]

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z87-G55.html#hero-overview

 

vs

 

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87PLUS/overview/

 

vs

 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z87M%20Extreme4/

 

They are all in the same price group so i'm trying to see if there is any difference in quality or company
I thought the asus was nice cause it has a 1 click OC
The asrock has something similar but i dont think it works like an OC, more like dedicating the system

[pitprok]

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[pitprok]

If you're gonna record i suggest the xeon e3 1230 v3 and since that processor can't be overclocked, go for a cheaper motherboard that supports xeons.

I would but i need it to have SLI in order to CF 290x